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Cow farts man, cow farts. Did you know we only have 12 years left to act on climate change. Apparently it’s our WWII (I honestly laughed while typing this). The Green New Deal is the biggest, dumbest shit I’ve seen in politics and AOC is the ring leader of the circus behind it.

I’ll acknowledge her social media skills. That’s about all I see unless you think being a woman and a minority is a skill....
I didn't mention any demographic other than her education and age. Watch how the conversation develops into how I'm the one playing identity politics, though. Eyeroll

Easy to make fun of something via straw men and dismiss it without any effort to counter it.
 
How much detail do you expect a politician to share in a sound bite? AOC cites well-respected, peer-reviewed research in support of her views.

It has nothing to do with agreement.
Do away with airplanes, rebuild all buildings to meet energy efficiency standards, exterminate cows pay people who don't want to work. What details has she given on how to go about these things let alone pay for them?
 
Do away with airplanes, rebuild all buildings to meet energy efficiency standards, exterminate cowd, pay people who don't want to work. What details has she given on how to go about these things let alone pay for them?
Eyeroll
Straw men, all. Too cowardly and insecure to discuss it without spin.
 
How much detail do you expect a politician to share in a sound bite? AOC cites well-respected, peer-reviewed research in support of her views.

It has nothing to do with agreement.
She’s had plenty of time on multiple occasions to help people understand her plan. She has done just that. Problem is, it’s the dumbest shit I have ever seen in politics and she thinks it’s brilliant. People understand it’s an unrealistic plan and she’s pumping it like it would actually benefit people.

Well respected support of her views? Is there anyone out there who genuinely think the GND is a good idea? Lol.
 
I didn't mention any demographic other than her education and age. Watch how the conversation develops into how I'm the one playing identity politics, though. Eyeroll

Easy to make fun of something via straw men and dismiss it without any effort to counter it.
There’s no need to counter the GND. Again, dumbest thing I’ve ever read.

And as someone else mentioned, you like AOC because she checks all the identity politics boxes for you.
 
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She’s had plenty of time on multiple occasions to help people understand her plan. She has done just that. Problem is, it’s the dumbest shit I have ever seen in politics and she thinks it’s brilliant. People understand it’s an unrealistic plan and she’s pumping it like it would actually benefit people.

Well respected support of her views? Is there anyone out there who genuinely think the GND is a good idea? Lol.
They had a chance to go on record. But 4 Democrats voted no and 43 voted present. Cowards.
 
AOC is the furthest thing from brilliant I can think of right now. You guys will put anyone on a pedestal if they push socialist ideas. You continually move further to the left at every opportunity.....you better be damn careful you don’t fall of that side of flat earth.
For Dattier to say AOC is brilliant justifies my assertion that he is never right about anything. Evidently he has not heard her speak and just how stupid she is.
 
I can't remember anything about you beyond the last few pages. I haven't agreed with you and I haven't been impressed by anything you've said, but I would presume you're not entirely without worth and that you've had solid, respectable opinions at some point.
You would be wrong. I am not worth a plug nickel.
 
What details has she given as to how we are going to pay for her proposals?
Taxing the rich like we used to, including under real GOP Presidents y'all probably would call RINOs now as part of your revisionist history. It worked then and would work now.

There’s no need to counter the GND. Again, dumbest thing I’ve ever read.

And as someone else mentioned, you like AOC because she checks all the identity politics boxes for you.
Was that "someone else" also you? Y'all are the only people talking about that. I've acknowledged that she and 2 other people -- who happen to be old white Republican men whom I dislike all have their respectable abilities.

No details on disliking the GND again, just lazy wholesale dismissal.

Like the ACA, it's a good start. You would be happy w/ nothing, so your input is essentially worthless.
 
No details on disliking the GND again, just lazy wholesale dismissal.
I'm not wasting my time discussing it with you, because you're going to accept it no matter what it says because your "side" proposed it and it's riddled with SJW things.

It's not a good start. It's a non starter. $90T is stupid. Supporting people unable and unwilling to work is dumb. Getting rid of airplanes is dumb. Refitting every single building in the country with alternative energy is dumb. I could go on and on.
 
What did he donate his salary to? Evidence?

A so-called "billionaire" donating a 1/4 million dollar salary is like someone making $100K donating $25.

You may believe that the things he is trying to do are good for the country, but there is far less compelling evidence for claiming that's what motivates him.

What do you dislike about him if not things he continues to do?

Wounded Warrior project, most recently.

Every quarter he donates his salary to random organizations. Feel free to look up who exactly the money has gone to, if you really cared.
 
Cow farts man, cow farts. Did you know we only have 12 years left to act on climate change. Apparently it’s our WWII (I honestly laughed while typing this). The Green New Deal is the biggest, dumbest shit I’ve seen in politics and AOC is the ring leader of the circus behind it.

I’ll acknowledge her social media skills. That’s about all I see unless you think being a woman and a minority is a skill....

Easy to do when the media defends every stupid thing you say.

Say something stupid and illogical? Post another 60 second clip of you in your kitchen making dinner.
 
Easy to do when the media defends every stupid thing you say.

Say something stupid and illogical? Post another 60 second clip of you in your kitchen making dinner.
My favorite is when she alluded to people not having more kids because, wait for it, climate change. Lol. She is a full blown idiot.

Next logical step is for Datt to support Ilhan Ohmar and call her a good American. Lol.
 
I can’t believe this thread has lasted this long. The letter laid out why they did not attend. And coming from Bennett have no reason to believe otherwise. Yes I would like to have saw the team attend. But it didn’t happen so we move on.
They did not go because the President is Donald Trump. Bennett can lie all he wants to but Trump is why they stayed at home.

Screw them.
 
For Dattier to say AOC is brilliant justifies my assertion that he is never right about anything. Evidently he has not heard her speak and just how stupid she is.
You can disagree w/ someone w/o lying about their intelligence. Ben Shapiro is brilliant. Jordan Peterson is brilliant. Grover Norquist is brilliant. I can't stand any of them. Woody Allen is brilliant and in accord with me politically and I still can't stand him.

Correction: People who are secure in their own intellect can disagree w/ people w/o straw men.
 
I don't think anyone has an issue with saying that there are people who they don't agree with politically that are, indeed brilliant. I think the issue is with calling AOC brilliant. On the flip side, you can think someone is a moron even if you agree with them politically. Well, some of us can anyways.
 
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You can disagree w/ someone w/o lying about their intelligence. Ben Shapiro is brilliant. Jordan Peterson is brilliant. Grover Norquist is brilliant. I can't stand any of them. Woody Allen is brilliant and in accord with me politically and I still can't stand him.

Correction: People who are secure in their own intellect can disagree w/ people w/o straw men.
Look, she said the constitution was changed so FDR would not get re-elected. FDR died in office, and that is but one of many examples where she showed her ignorance, so no, she is far from brilliant. Probably a nice girl, but dumber than a rock.
 
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Next logical step is for Datt to support Ilhan Ohmar and call her a good American. Lol.
My support for AOC in this thread has largely consisted of defending her overall intelligence. I've mentioned the NGD as a "good start" to addressing climate change and the research she has cited in support of it as peer-reviewed and respectable, which is certainly supportive, but nowhere near the sheeplike identity politics you want to pin on me.

Full disclosure: I do strongly support both her and Rep. Omar (and while we're at it, Rep. Tlaib, too), but at no point has that compromised the integrity of anything I've said here. Saying someone is intelligent is complimentary, but it's not a sign of bias. Saying someone's ideas/plans are a good start is validating, but it's not a sign of partisanship. They're both measured, reserved, completely reasonable statements.
 
Wounded Warrior project, most recently.

Every quarter he donates his salary to random organizations. Feel free to look up who exactly the money has gone to, if you really cared.
Thanks. I'm glad to hear it. Wounded Warriors is a worthy cause.
I'll take your word for it that it's true. I stand by the fact that it's the equivalent % as someone making $100K donating $25.
 
Not that I'd vote for him, but I think Mayor Pete seems like a good person. I don't agree with his policies, but at least I get a feel that he's genuine. No other democrat gives me the same impression.
 
I don't think anyone has an issue with saying that there are people who they don't agree with politically that are, indeed brilliant. I think the issue is with calling AOC brilliant. On the flip side, you can think someone is a moron even if you agree with them politically. Well, some of us can anyways.
Fairer than anything anyone else has said, but there's a difference between claiming it hypothetically and out of context and recognizing it in real time. We all know certain grammar rules when presented with a worksheet focusing on it, but we than make careless mistakes when typing in real time. Any examples you give me now just to prove the point would come across as contrived. (That's also not what I did, as I volunteered that info before being prompted as an example of what y'all ought to be doing, though it's too late right now.)
 
My favorite is when she alluded to people not having more kids because, wait for it, climate change. Lol. She is a full blown idiot.

Next logical step is for Datt to support Ilhan Ohmar and call her a good American. Lol.
she should have said do not have kids if you cannot support them financially. It would take care of 50-% of the problem.
 
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I haven't decided.
A smart man would choose a moderate that has as little to do with AOC and Bernie as possible. Somebody that won’t use trumps childlike antics and knows the only way to success is appealing to the middle.
 
Look, she said the constitution was changed so FDR would not get re-elected. FDR died in office, and that is but one of many examples where she showed her ignorance, so no, she is far from brilliant. Probably a nice girl, but dumber than a rock.
You're equating memorized fact and proper phrasing with intellect. Off the top of my head, I don't remember the capital of South Dakota, and if asked, I might accidentally say the capital of North Dakota instead. So what?

When politicians you support make embarrassing errors , I bet you excuse it pretty easily as a harmless misstatement or speaking too fast or something other than a sign of diminished intellectual capacity. People on my side of center make fun of our President by diagramming his sentences, but really, stopping midsentence and restating it differently, repeating a word, adding an "um" or "y'know" -- those are all pretty common speaking conventions. Speaking in a fairly casual, conversational way isn't supposed to be as clean as a revised and proofread essay.

The 22nd Amendment was inspired by FDR's 3rd election so that no President after him could run for a third term. It's pretty easy and reasonable to give AOC the benefit of the doubt on botching her phrasing if you haven't decided ahead of time to call anything and everything she says stupid.
 
Is there someone you would rather see put their name in, or are you content with the field?
I'm not currently content with the field, though someone could emerge from it. I don't know of someone else I definitely wish would join the field.
 
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