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UVA Declines White House Invitation

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If you think the current POTUS respects the office I can just assume you aren’t the brightest bulb.

did Bill Clinton respect the office?
how do you know if either Bush or Obama respected the office
all you have is your opinion which is just that, your opinion

you actually have no proof either way
 
I think Bennett and UVA will be okay without your respect. You are allowed to feel however you want about the situation though.

that is the thing i really do not care if Bennett or UVA will be ok or not
i lost a lot of respect for a coach and a team i respected

i am sure a lot of UVA fans are very disappointed in his decision

Johnny Carson said it best as to why he never got politics involved in his show
why make half of your audience mad
 
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that is the thing i really do not care if Bennett or UVA will be ok or not
i lost a lot of respect for a coach and a team i respected

i am sure a lot of UVA fans are very disappointed in his decision

Johnny Carson said it best as to why he never got politics involved in his show
why make half of your audience mad

Then maybe we should blame the White House for inviting teams rather than blaming teams for declining the invite. You can't decline an invite if it's never extended.
 
Seriously, who gives a shit about tradition? This reminds me of when Lebron didn't go through the handshake line.

"But everyone is supposed to go through the handshake line". :rolleyes:

It's up to UVA players, coaches, etc if they want to visit the nation's capital.
 
Then maybe we should blame the White House for inviting teams rather than for teams for declining the invite.

i guess that is one way to spin it

what if some of the UVA players wanted to have a once in a lifetime chance to see inside the White House
do you think his decision is fair to them?
did he even give the players a choice or did he feel they should not have that choice?
 
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i guess that is one way to spin it

what if some of the UVA players wanted to have a once in a lifetime chance to see inside the White House
do you think his decision is fair to them?
did he even give the players a choice or did he feel they should not have that choice?
The UVA players/coaches/etc that want to attend should still be able to IMO. Who cares if it's 3 guys taking a photo with Trump?
 
Eh. Some people would look at it as...

“I dont like this man’s role in my country, my government, and indeed the Presidency of the United States, and I have a complete lack of respect for him as a man and for his morals and ways, and so I will take an altogether American approach of saying ‘I don’t want him to be part of my celebration of this lifelong dream,” which would be unheard of in other nations that are not built upon freedom from political rule or obligation as ours is. I do this in full recognition of how rare it is, and I find it in fact rather telling that no other President in history has “endured” this... I cannot myself imagine *not* considering it quite an honor if any former President extended the kind invite, and am sorry that it cannot be that for me.”

That’s how I take it. I’d certainly have welcomed a White House visit for any President of my lifetime, no matter how much I may have disagreed with them or their politics. I reckon every single person turning down Trumps invites feels the same way, as evidenced by how rare it is that any team ever turned down an invite from any former Presidents.
Oh yea. Bill Clinton and JFK were so GD innocent up standing, moral men and yet they are loved and worshipped. Cry me a freakin river. Love or hate Trump, but he has done a lot of things that has helped this country.
 
Oh yea. Bill Clinton and JFK were so GD innocent up standing, moral men and yet they are loved and worshipped. Cry me a freakin river. Love or hate Trump, but he has done a lot of things that has helped this country.
I really do enjoy his hotels and casinos.
 
Eh. Some people would look at it as...

“I dont like this man’s role in my country, my government, and indeed the Presidency of the United States, and I have a complete lack of respect for him as a man and for his morals and ways, and so I will take an altogether American approach of saying ‘I don’t want him to be part of my celebration of this lifelong dream,” which would be unheard of in other nations that are not built upon freedom from political rule or obligation as ours is. I do this in full recognition of how rare it is, and I find it in fact rather telling that no other President in history has “endured” this... I cannot myself imagine *not* considering it quite an honor if any former President extended the kind invite, and am sorry that it cannot be that for me.”

That’s how I take it. I’d certainly have welcomed a White House visit for any President of my lifetime, no matter how much I may have disagreed with them or their politics. I reckon every single person turning down Trumps invites feels the same way, as evidenced by how rare it is that any team ever turned down an invite from any former Presidents.
And I am sure you are one of those liberal democrats that listen and watch CNN and believe everything they say. The fake news network. Trump has done more for this country than any other President. Lowest unemployment for blacks, hispanics, women and all americans. You must feel a little butt hurt. I may not like his personality but I like what he has done for the people.
 
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And @Hank_ gets a T-shirt.

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Big Mike Judge fan here.
 
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i guess that is one way to spin it

what if some of the UVA players wanted to have a once in a lifetime chance to see inside the White House
do you think his decision is fair to them?
did he even give the players a choice or did he feel they should not have that choice?

What is preventing the UVA players that want to go from going? Is Trump going to deny them from coming simply because the coach denied the invite?
 
What is preventing the UVA players that want to go from going? Is Trump going to deny them from coming simply because the coach denied the invite?

the offer was made by Trump for the team, as far as i know that offer has been made for decades
did Bennett ask the players for their opinion or if any of them wanted to go (apparently he feels they are not intelligent enough to make their own decision on the matter)
what prevented him from doing so?
since Bennett decided to make their decision for them, pier pressure may prevent any of them saying "what the hell i wanted to go"

the offer from the White House is a courtesy
 
the offer was made by Trump for the team, as far as i know that offer has been made for decades
did Bennett ask the players for their opinion or if any of them wanted to go (apparently he feels they are not intelligent enough to make their own decision on the matter)
what prevented him from doing so?
since Bennett decided to make their decision for them, pier pressure may prevent any of them saying "what the hell i wanted to go"

the offer from the White House is a courtesy

Based on how Bennett has coached the team for the last 10 years, my guess would be that he did not make a unilateral decision.
 
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Based on how Bennett has coached the team for the last 10 years, my guess would be that he did not make a unilateral decision.

agreed
the decision was also made by his higher ups
i doubt the players had any say so
do you really think he contacted the players no longer at UVA and asked them
for that matter any of them

man i like you as a poster
but the more you make me think about this the worse Bennett and UVA look in my eyes
 
Honestly not sure how we would have handled this. Probably go but make excuses for players etc who didn't want to go.
 
I think it's a waste of a great opportunity to do something not many people get to do. I think it is stupid, but it is their loss. No reason for anyone to get mad over it.

that is a lot of my point
every one of those players should have been asked by Bennett and UVA if they wanted to go
 
agreed
the decision was also made by his higher ups
i doubt the players had any say so
do you really think he contacted the players no longer at UVA and asked them
for that matter any of them

man i like you as a poster
but the more you make me think about this the worse Bennett and UVA look in my eyes

Sorry for making you think
 
Honestly not sure how we would have handled this. Probably go but make excuses for players etc who didn't want to go.

i don't think any excuse should be made for the players that did not want to attend
as Americans that would be their choice
but they should be given that choice
 
I wonder if it was Bennett's decision even though he had players want to have the honor. Tony shit on their dreams of one day visiting the White House.

Maybe I have this all wrong and every single UVA team member didn't want to visit the WH.

Cry bag pussies ruin everything.
 
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I wonder if it was Bennett's decision even though he had players want to have the honor. Tony shit on their dreams of one day visiting the White House.

Maybe I have this all wrong and every single UVA team member didn't want to visit the WH.

Cry bag pussies ruin everything.

Bennett does have a history and reputation for putting himself above others
 
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