The Charges will not stick. Watch and learn. the NCAA is growing weaker as a punitive Organization every day. I am content to see Coach take them to court.
Report: Kansas Expected to Face "Multiple Major NCAA Violations"
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In Court - I am afraid they do. These are accusations that had better have direct and incontrovertible evidence against Coach Self. He will take the NCAA to court and make mincemeat. The NCAA as soon as California and the other States get done making laws to allow for Athletes remunerations will either change their tune or become obsolete.
Maybe they will, maybe they won't. I have no way of knowing and neither do you. You can say they are getting weaker, but that doesn't make it so. Are they dirty and corrupt? Most likely in my opinion. Also, court is a different animal. Better be ready to answer some tough questions under oath.
He worked for Larry brown. At Kansas. So he has cheated, but he wasn’t dumb enough to get caught like dirty dollar bill and kurti$ townsend
Good to see Mr. Bobbitt's penis is alive and well.
"PerBlair Kerkhoffof the Kansas City Star, former Adidas employee T.J. Gassnola said in federal court last year that he made payments to the families of De Sousa and former Kansas commit Billy Preston. Gassnola also said Kansas head coach Bill Self was unaware of the payments." If there is any truth in this. The NCAA will lose in any action taken with Coach Self.
My friend, you just won the internet for a short period of time for this afternoon. That was hilarious!!! No way can I be mad. Well played sir.
Missouri of course. This is a result of the 125 year-long rivalries between the 2 States that gave up playing each other in Athletics. BTW all of the major Papers in Kansas are owned by the KC Star, which seems counterintuitive. The 2 States hate each other enough to go into a situation where they are now trying to hurt each other by other means. This is why you should never throw out a 123-year-old Sports Rivalry.
I think you have 2 sports programs confused. Or maybe you are just ignorant. Either way the one has nothing to do with the other.
He was making a joke....ease off the gas a bit.
We now know what the commentators topic for all of the KU games will be this year. Dicky V at the Champions Classic will be a drinking game.
Probably. However, the winds of change are blowing through Amateur Athletics. By the time every appeal is exhausted, the majority of the States will see the same thing California has and the NCAA will be out of luck with making these charges stick. All Coach has to do is appeal long enough. NCAA has been an embarrassment in Div1 A5 Conferences. Basketball is following suit. The time to decertify the NCAA as a punitive Organization is long past done. Their vision of Amateur Athletics is long gone. And no I do not think Coach knew anything about this. I think some Alumni and Adidas did know. The KC Star that owns most newspapers in Kansas is saying he knew nothing. I think they may know more than the NCAA.
Yep and the participants in said drinking game will be near blackout drunk within the first 10 minutes of the 1st half. Those daring to cheat death will be passed out or possibly clinically dead by halftime. Dicey game indeed.
Football has become more than a joke at KU as a part of our athletic pie. We are spending lots of money and time to regain a Football Program that has been lost. I am a rare bird, a KU Football Fan. It is not a suitable subject for jokes at this time. That's all.
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I'm glad to hear a UK fan admit this! I personally don't hate him for this, it's the game that the NCAA has allowed. I think its stupid for a coach not to explore every option, if that's what everyone else is doing.
However, it's ridiculously annoying when a fanbase accepts that this is going on everywhere, but their own school.
Not necessarily. Townsend is Selfs responsibility too. And I guarantee you he’s dirty.
It's odd that I've seen multiple UK fans today agree that Self should be hammered. While claiming that the reason being is because of the "lack of institutional control" tag. While also saying that Cal is clean because of no infractions.
Denial is an amazing thing!
Townsend is dirty. Though probably no dirtier than 100 others. But what do they have on him?
I believe you were one of the people this morning who went so far and quoted the rule in regards to Lack of institutional control.
Please tell me why you believe Self should get hammered by this, but Cal is clean after his teams forfeited 2 final 4s? Hoe can someone be so detail oriented that thru can be at the very top of their profession, but also dumb enough to not know what's going on under their nose?
I've said this before, but I honestly don't fault anyone for doing the same thing that their direct competitor is doing. But the hypocrisy to act like it's everyone else is seriously beneath you!
Fyi I didn't mean to tag you in my op. I hate how if you click on a post earlier in the day, but for whatever reason you decide not to respond to it, it's still there for your next response 4 hours later.
Learn sarcasm.
Let me explain what he meant.
By saying Les Miles better be prepared, he's saying that the football team will bear the brunt of the sanctions since KU is a basketball school. The NCAA has a history of letting schools push the blame on women's soccer and football so the basketball team doesn't get hammered and gets to keep its clean reputation.
Get it? It was a joke.
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I have no idea if Self will get hammered by all this. I haven't given any opinions about it, and I quoted an excerpt from ESPN b/c someone said "Post season ban is all they're worried about". I would think losing Self for a season would be just as bad.
Also, I think you have me confused with someone else with your "you's" (in bold)
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Yeah, I must have combined 2 separate posts in my mind this morning. For some reason, I thought you had said more in the post I was referencing.
With all that said....can you honestly say that at no point in the past year that this thought never entered your head about even if he didn't know, it's his responsibility?
I don't think about Self or KU much at all, however, I do recall the NCAA saying something not long ago, about how the coaches will be held accountable for actions under their watch even if they didn't know.
I'm sure if they had that rule in place when Memphis got in trouble, Calipari would have paid as well.
Have you read Gary Parris new column?
I really hate stuff like this.
I see fans of good programs sitting around like vultures looking to pick the bones of the Kansas basketball.
I don't like seeing KU in trouble with the NCAA; however, recently the NCAA has indicated that they do not go after the real cheaters. They are like the mob, pay them protection and you will not get on probation.
UNC basketball players don't have to go to class. The NCAA says that is okay. Duke players can borrow big bucks and not pay it back. The NCAA says that is okay. Georgetown can play a player who could not get into a community college. The NCAA says that is okay.
At the moment I am on KU's side. I don't want to see them go down unless they cheated. But if they cheated why should the NCAA not say that cheating at KU is okay?
The NCAA are the cheaters.
I see fans of good programs sitting around like vultures looking to pick the bones of the Kansas basketball.
I don't like seeing KU in trouble with the NCAA; however, recently the NCAA has indicated that they do not go after the real cheaters. They are like the mob, pay them protection and you will not get on probation.
UNC basketball players don't have to go to class. The NCAA says that is okay. Duke players can borrow big bucks and not pay it back. The NCAA says that is okay. Georgetown can play a player who could not get into a community college. The NCAA says that is okay.
At the moment I am on KU's side. I don't want to see them go down unless they cheated. But if they cheated why should the NCAA not say that cheating at KU is okay?
The NCAA are the cheaters.
Why punish KU and let Duke and UNC walk away with nothing?
The NCAA are cheats.
Plus you did not like my post.
Will never happen. The NCAA is more important to the schools than a many of you know. If they weren't---said schools would've bolted by now.
And Duke has been caught doing? Everyone know UNc skated, but Duke is clean.
Bull shit.
Thomas. Nearly $100,000 in debt and it gets paid and brushed away. The NCAA would not even investigate. Wow.
Duke's 2005 title still stands.
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2010. I think he put something like $33,000 down in cash then got a loan for the other $67,000. Or something along those lines.
I agree...but I think we are just as guilty as the next. But, if our staff didn't take the same care and pre-cautions as the rest of our competitors than thats our fault. Im aware of how dirty recruiting is and have no doubt my school has rolled around in the mud. Everyone else is doing it isn't a valid excuse if your dumb enough to get caught. Lets see if our high powered legal team gets the last **** you in this.
Uh, they did investigate. A personal purchase by a citizen in his last semester of his senior year. Tell me Burt, logically, why would a booster or Duke buy a kid who didn’t get drafted 100k of jewelry.
My name on every post is Bert, not Burt.
Plus the purchase was in November and it was not his last semester. Did you ever go to college? The last semester of your Senior year may begin around last of December or early January.
They (the NCAA) did nothing. They allowed a Duke suggar daddy to pay it off. No problem. He got that simply because of where he went to school.
The NCAA are crooks.
