Top 10 most likely to win it all

Discussion in 'College Basketball Board' started by RockChalk82, Feb 24, 2020.

  1. UL_1986

    UL_1986 Well-Known Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2018
    Messages:
    5,653
    Likes Received:
    4,052
    [​IMG]
     
  2. mebeblue2

    mebeblue2 Well-Known Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2009
    Messages:
    10,461
    Likes Received:
    2,132
    you sound like a longtime friend of mine that is a huge ul fan
    i will tell you the same thing i told him

    i respect your delusion
    it is better to be delusional then to lose all hope
     
    JC for 3 likes this.
  3. Kevin Bryan

    Kevin Bryan Moderator
    Moderator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2011
    Messages:
    10,384
    Likes Received:
    9,183
    Stop stealing my gifs.
     
  4. UL_1986

    UL_1986 Well-Known Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2018
    Messages:
    5,653
    Likes Received:
    4,052
    Show me your rights to giphy.
     
  5. Kevin Bryan

    Kevin Bryan Moderator
    Moderator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2011
    Messages:
    10,384
    Likes Received:
    9,183
    [​IMG]
     
    lurkeraspect84 likes this.
  6. IUfanBorden

    IUfanBorden Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2011
    Messages:
    23,867
    Likes Received:
    8,807
    Dude----Really? I seriously hope....Ya know, what----Nevermind. I was hoping you were trolling. I expected more(from you).
     
  7. IUfanBorden

    IUfanBorden Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2011
    Messages:
    23,867
    Likes Received:
    8,807
    Ok, I'm just gonna say it----You cannot be this stupid, right? Again----Trolling tonight?
     
  8. Kevin Bryan

    Kevin Bryan Moderator
    Moderator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2011
    Messages:
    10,384
    Likes Received:
    9,183
    What do you mean? This is your own methodology.
     
  9. IUfanBorden

    IUfanBorden Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2011
    Messages:
    23,867
    Likes Received:
    8,807
    No---Its not. Not even close. Comparing what I said, to that of Evansville/UK, then calling Evansville, is just stupid. Its not at all what I said. You said the Big 10 wasn't that good----I argued that by showing where they had beaten about 7 or 8 Top 25 teams OOC. You then say---"But, but....you didn't point out who they lost to...."

    Why would I do that? I mean, sure---I can. But I mean---wouldn't that be your job? You tell me apples are better than oranges, I'm sure the hell not going to give you reasons why apples are better.

    JFC....

    BTW, for you though....

    MSU lost to Duke, UK and VaTech OOC...
    Maryland lost @ Seton Hall
    PSU lost to Ole Miss...
    OSU lost to WVU...
    Iowa lost to...SDSU and DePaul
    IU lost to Arkansas...
    Michigan lost to UL and Oregon...

    I mean-----Now what?
     
  10. Kevin Bryan

    Kevin Bryan Moderator
    Moderator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2011
    Messages:
    10,384
    Likes Received:
    9,183
    My job to tell you who they all lost to? Why would it be? And why are VT and DePaul in bold?
     
  11. IUfanBorden

    IUfanBorden Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2011
    Messages:
    23,867
    Likes Received:
    8,807
    You said the Big 10 isn't that good....Why is that?

    VT and DePaul are in bold b/c IMO, those are bad losses.
     
  12. Kevin Bryan

    Kevin Bryan Moderator
    Moderator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2011
    Messages:
    10,384
    Likes Received:
    9,183
    I didn't say they weren't that good. Probably the most competitive top to bottom along with the Big East. But do I think they deserve to get like 11 teams in the tourney? No, I don't. They may only have 1 team in the entire league without double digit losses going into the tourney. A good sign of league parity for sure, but whether that means good, mediocre, or bad parity remains to be seen until they play outside of the conference. The good thing is we'll get to see it all unfold in the NCAAT.
     
    englandnu and IUfanBorden like this.
  13. IUfanBorden

    IUfanBorden Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2011
    Messages:
    23,867
    Likes Received:
    8,807
    I don't think they deserve 11----Not now. Not with Purdue collapsing. I do think maybe 10----MD, MSU, Iowa, Illinois, PSU, OSU, IU, Wisky, Rutgers and UM. Now, this could certainly change. Indiana IMO opinion needs to go 2-2 the last 4, to be a lock. With this team, who knows---COuld go 1-3. But their last two are at home; vs Minny and Wisky. Rutgers is sliding....Last 3 are toughies: @ PSU, vs MD, @ Purdue. Lose those 3, and they're in trouble. Wisconsin is looking really good(for a NCAA bid). 10-6 in conference. Lat four are all very winnable. MOF, only games that are trouble,@ Michigan, @ Indiana. SHould handle NW and Minny at home. Probably finish 12-8.

    I think at the end, Big 10 gets 9: IU, MSU, MD, OSU,UM, PSU, Wisky, Illinois and Iowa. If Rutgers beats MD at home----probably in.

    JMO.
     
  14. Kevin Bryan

    Kevin Bryan Moderator
    Moderator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2011
    Messages:
    10,384
    Likes Received:
    9,183
    I think 9 is probably the right number. Of course it's all fluid over these last few weeks and also depends on what a lot of other teams do. With the level of parity overall in hoops this year I can see some teams winning the auto bid that normally would not have gotten in as an at-large. So all those bubble teams will be praying for no bid stealers like that. Last week, for instance, I don't think IU would have been in. Fast forward a week with a couple solid wins and I think they would be in right now for sure. Of course they could easily be right back on the outside of the bubble if they lose these next two critical games @Purdue and Illinois. I agree that they will likely need to go at least 2-2 in their last 4 to get in, but I think one of those wins will have to be @Purdue or @Illinois (quad 1). Minnesota will be a quad 2 game and Wisconsin will be a toss-up of quad 1 or quad 2 (right now they are NET 29). Gonna be a ton of bubble movement the next few weeks, that's for sure!
     
  15. IUfanBorden

    IUfanBorden Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2011
    Messages:
    23,867
    Likes Received:
    8,807
    Disagree with Indiana....I think they can lose @ Purdue and Illinois, win at home vs Wisky and Minny, and be safely in. Puts them at 20-11, 10-10, with wins over FSU, MSU, OSU, Iowa and PSU. I just don't see a team in the BIg 10, going .500, and not making the dance. Not this year. Bubble is shit.
     
  16. Kevin Bryan

    Kevin Bryan Moderator
    Moderator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2011
    Messages:
    10,384
    Likes Received:
    9,183
    You might be right. A lot will probably depend how much weight the selection committee puts on the NET vs. other variables. IU is currently sitting at 52, behind a lot of other bubble hopefuls a just ahead of a handful more. Those quad 1 wins are going to hold a lot of value going down the stretch.
     
    IUfanBorden likes this.
  17. IUfanBorden

    IUfanBorden Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2011
    Messages:
    23,867
    Likes Received:
    8,807
    My thing with the NET is, it simply hasn't been around long enough for us to see a pattern---As in, exactly what is the cutoff, etc, etc...Use to be we could say, hey if your not in the Top 60 or so in the RPI, etc, etc...you were not getting in. I just don't think there's a large enough sample size with the NET, to determine a cutoff.
     
  18. Kevin Bryan

    Kevin Bryan Moderator
    Moderator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2011
    Messages:
    10,384
    Likes Received:
    9,183
    I personally think it's shit, but it was developed by the NCAA as the primary replacement for the RPI so that makes me think they'll be pushing it as a major selection/seeding tool.
     
    IUfanBorden likes this.
  19. IUfanBorden

    IUfanBorden Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2011
    Messages:
    23,867
    Likes Received:
    8,807
    Agree....
     
  20. JC for 3

    JC for 3 Well-Known Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2003
    Messages:
    2,651
    Likes Received:
    1,451
    Location:
    Ft. Thomas, KY
    Only a U6er would refer to fact as 'drivel'. U6 ain't winning shit this year either, bub....not after what I saw last night. Your coach continues to make you clowns play 4 against 5 whenever McMahon is in the game. Nwora showing up is barely a 50/50 proposition.

    As far as Eaves.....he's closer to the program than you'll ever be.... probably safe to say he knows more than you do about the future of the program.
     
  21. JC for 3

    JC for 3 Well-Known Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2003
    Messages:
    2,651
    Likes Received:
    1,451
    Location:
    Ft. Thomas, KY
    0/10..... your effort as well as number of NCAA issues in the Cal era at UK.
     
  22. JC for 3

    JC for 3 Well-Known Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2003
    Messages:
    2,651
    Likes Received:
    1,451
    Location:
    Ft. Thomas, KY
    Are you serious...?? The 2012 title stands, UK's won more NCAA Tournament games (twice at U6's expense, ending their season), more Final Fours, Elite 8's, more games period. How on earth would you say U6 has 'been the better program since 2010'? Are you on crack?
     
  23. JC for 3

    JC for 3 Well-Known Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2003
    Messages:
    2,651
    Likes Received:
    1,451
    Location:
    Ft. Thomas, KY
    Vegas odds gonna change after that shellacking last night.
     
  24. MrBaracus

    MrBaracus Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    May 2, 2015
    Messages:
    5,755
    Likes Received:
    3,513
    I'm pretty sure he was saying "if" they won it all this year.

    In which case you would assuredly have a severe mental breakdown.
     
  25. JC for 3

    JC for 3 Well-Known Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2003
    Messages:
    2,651
    Likes Received:
    1,451
    Location:
    Ft. Thomas, KY
    Not gonna happen.... there's no 'D' in louisville.
     
  26. toonces11

    toonces11 Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2010
    Messages:
    4,874
    Likes Received:
    4,220
    Pretty sure the NCAA's D is in louisville.
     
  27. JimboBBN

    JimboBBN Well-Known Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2016
    Messages:
    6,824
    Likes Received:
    8,395
    Location:
    The Bluegrass State
    Beautiful
     
    toonces11 likes this.
  28. JC for 3

    JC for 3 Well-Known Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2003
    Messages:
    2,651
    Likes Received:
    1,451
    Location:
    Ft. Thomas, KY
    ....and gonna go in dry again.
     
    toonces11 likes this.
  29. pisgah101

    pisgah101 Well-Known Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2005
    Messages:
    162
    Likes Received:
    115
    man I hope we get to smash UK
     
  30. JimboBBN

    JimboBBN Well-Known Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2016
    Messages:
    6,824
    Likes Received:
    8,395
    Location:
    The Bluegrass State
    You wouldn't smash us. You could definitely beat us, your team isn't blowing us out though.
     
  31. Lover of Pearl

    Lover of Pearl Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2018
    Messages:
    105
    Likes Received:
    114
    Your statement about Auburn shows that you haven’t watched a single SEC game this season.

    carryon though
     
  32. 5thGenJayhawk

    5thGenJayhawk Well-Known Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    May 6, 2015
    Messages:
    233
    Likes Received:
    297
    I would very much like to play Duke again...preferably in the National Championship game.

    BUT, this year is SO weird, we both may lose in the Sweet 16 and watch someone like Dayton or Seton Hall hang a banner.
     
  33. cooljeff

    cooljeff Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2003
    Messages:
    18,079
    Likes Received:
    5,616
    i reject the notion it is wide open this year...maybe after you get through the top 5 or so but aside from that there has been more stability at the top for 2 months then what you typically see. I will agree that aside from the top all the other teams seem to be relatively close so there could be a lot of upsets but ee & ff could still look VERY chalky.


    1.Kansas
    2. Baylor (these 2 seem heads and shoulders above the field)


    3. Gonzaga
    4. Dayton
    5. Duke
    6. SDS (these seem like the next pairing...Dayton is a damn good team and Duke...the metrics like them more than my eyes so I am going metrics with this rating)

    7. fsu
    8. nova
    9. maryland
    10. Kentucky (other than Nova, I have not seen this group lay even a half of basketball this year so my opinion is not that of a detailed observer.)
     
  34. toonces11

    toonces11 Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2010
    Messages:
    4,874
    Likes Received:
    4,220
    Id put Dayton 3, FSU 4
     
  35. bignish

    bignish Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2016
    Messages:
    1,562
    Likes Received:
    1,261
    The field isn't wide open this year. I would consider it somewhat shocking if a team other than Kansas, Baylor, Duke and the Zags won the title. There's only like 5-7 other teams that would even have a shot at winning 6 straight games like Maryland, Michigan, Seton Hall, Creighton and Dayton.

    The field felt more wide open last year once Zion went down and Duke was never the same. 2016 and 2017 seemed to be completely up in the air as you had MSU, UNC, UK, Duke, KU, Nova and the Zags all firmly in the mix with not much separation.

    KU looks like a complete juggernaut this year that I haven't seen since 2012 Kentucky.
     
    MrBaracus likes this.
  36. bignish

    bignish Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2016
    Messages:
    1,562
    Likes Received:
    1,261
    KU will walk to the Elite 8 this year. I always worry about Bill Self in the Elite 8 game but it would be next level shocking if you guys lost before then.

    Duke I could see losing in the 2nd round or Sweet 16 depending on matchups.
     
    5thGenJayhawk likes this.
  37. RR30

    RR30 Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2013
    Messages:
    3,248
    Likes Received:
    2,802
    Did Villanova not happen just 2 years ago?
     
    UL_1986 likes this.
  38. Montana81

    Montana81 Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2004
    Messages:
    6,539
    Likes Received:
    901
    As a Kentucky fan, I can tell you as of right now we do not have the point guard play of a legit contender. Hagans is averaging 3.5 turnovers a game and that number rises to over 4 during conference play.

    Just one of Kentucky’s major issues but probably the biggest.
     
    UL_1986 and cooljeff like this.
  39. jhmossy

    jhmossy Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2017
    Messages:
    6,328
    Likes Received:
    15,292
    Duke was the #1 overall seed last year and had a healthy Zion throughout the tournament. Just admit you guys choked. When you look at what Zion is doing in the NBA right now, it's actually pathetic that you only won 3 tournament games as a 1 seed. You barely beat UCF and VT and then lost to Michigan State. The wide open nature last year had nothing to do with Zion going down.
     
    UL_1986, Bert Higginbotha and RR30 like this.
  40. Montana81

    Montana81 Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2004
    Messages:
    6,539
    Likes Received:
    901
    This is probably the least talented duke team since their last title but watch, this will be the one to break back through to the final four.
     
    UL_1986 and Bert Higginbotha like this.

Share This Page