Report: Kansas Expected to Face "Multiple Major NCAA Violations"
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....Myron was talking about people like you....
"Fans swear Cal/Kentucky cheat. But FBI has investigated the sport. NCAA investigating. Not one NOA for UK.
Louisville, UNC, Kansas, Arizona maybe soon. Not Kentucky. Interesting that NCAA says the real cheaters might be schools with fans who often accuse Cal/Kentucky of cheating."
The NCAA has long allowed athletes who received payments to serve a suspension and have their eligibility reinstated. The part I'm a little surprised about is that they allowed him to return to KU. I would have guessed (but I don't know) that where they believe the school knew about the payments that one of the conditions of reinstatement would be going to a different school.
Well, I hope you realize that his logic is absolutely stupid.
Does anyone actually believe that every school with players that received impermissable benefits has/will receive an NOA?
Apparently Myron does.
Yeah, the logic that the FBI and NCAA have found stuff and handed out NOAs over a multi-year investigation on Kansas, UNC, Duke, Louisville, Arizona, Georgia Tech, Auburn, etc etc etc but not a thing on Kentucky must mean Kentucky is just dirty as hell and they're just waiting.
Or, perhaps it's just Occam's Razor and you're just butthurt and deflecting because Kansas is fixin "toupee" the piper.RollLaugh
Or, perhaps it's just Occam's Razor and you're just butthurt and deflecting because Kansas is fixin "toupee" the piper.RollLaugh
Nope. It's just idiotic to think that anyone has been exonerated. Look at the list of players who were paid by Dawkins, for God's sake. Just one agent. How many of them have been investigated or issued NOAs? Of course, they aren't allowed access to FBI documents.
It's funny that certain people have suddenly suspended their "NCAA is a joke" takes. Convenient, no?
Btw, do you think Duke is clean?
I guess I missed where I included them in my list of dirty schools. JFC dude.
What's a shame is Kansas is a good program, y'all shouldn't have to resort to this stuff.
The truth is I really don't care at all about any of it, it's just fun to point and laugh at you and the others. Frankly, I ****ing hate one and done and pay for play. It's made me apathetic about basketball and why you only see me over here during the season.
Half of Rupp Rafters is filled with threads concerning recruiting for next years guys who are reclassifying. I do not give a flying **** about some high school junior.
College basketball needs a serious kick in the ass.
Your obsession with Duke is comical. Why would you ask and how would he know if Duke is clean. He is a UK fan?
Sorry, but Duke is clean. Until someone provides actual proof.
Have you placed that call to the Knicks yet? They deserve to know that they're paying someone who isn't talented.
True. But it won't get it. They'll make an example of a few and move on. An overhaul isn't in their interest.
I did miss that you mentioned Duke. But why were they in that list? They were never investigated.
Oh, sorry. Looks like he signed with the Nets a few hours ago.
Why are NBA teams interested in paying this scrub? According to you, no one in their right mind would have given him a nickel in college. Yet, here he is, collecting from NBA GMs a decade later.
The deal might not be inked yet. You'd better get their GM on the phone stat.
They spent 3 years on probation less than 15 years ago.
I have no idea what you are talking about. But if it is Lance Thomas, I am referring to the time he was at Duke. Not post Duke and how he has improved. The two do not really go together.
Kind of like the old argument that Duke didn't produce NBA players and then when they did, they didn't do as well as when they were at Duke. Two different scenarios that people tried to blend.
Just curious, what did the FBI and NCAA hand Duke? I guess you have forgotten that Jarred Vanderbilt and Ashton Hagans were mentioned in the FBI probe.
So you're doubling down on this horrific argument, I see.
He didn't magically become a superior prospect immediately after leaving Duke. If he had, you'd have to question K's coaching. Did it ever occur to you that he didn't have huge numbers in college because he played on a roster that won the national title?
And have you happened to notice that a lot of average or worse players have been investigated/punished over the years?
Yeah, but none of those guys were fifth (5th) starters, were they? Checkmate, Jaytard!
It's the Kansas and North Carolina "how to deal with NCAA" playbook:
you forgot: Nuh uhIt's the Kansas and North Carolina "how to deal with NCAA" playbook:
We're not inside the ropes. You, me, Baracus and everyone else on this forum has no clue what happens inside the ropes. So making statements like yours, is really just as bad as those of us that choose to believe our school is clean.
Why would I believe my school is cheating when I have nothing that proves that?
Are we just going on the Blanket Merl Code statement that mrBaracus keeps clinging to? MC said it right there in his quote, whether you give a kid a dollar or $100.000 dollars, it's cheating. So he's throwing a blanket over the whole damn thing. Sorry, but giving a kid a dollar is definitely NOT the same thing as giving a kid a hundred thousand dollars.
Saying my school is cheating when I have nothing that proves it, is the same action as me accusing you of being a serial killer. You obviously are, you're human, you're a guy, you have two arms, two legs and two hands. You match the description of almost every other serial killer, so obviously, you're a serial killer.
Yeah, it's ridiculous right? How do you think Calipari and his assistants feel? Being called a cheater when you haven't done anything wrong, really sucks.
Is it that far fetched to believe that the combination of Calipari/UK/proven results is good enough to land top recruits? Why is it so hard to believe?
I choose to believe innocence until I have a reason the believe differently. You and mrbaracus can continue to make accusations based on beliefs and rumors. Sounds fun.
Oh, so NOW you need facts.
When it comes to everyone else, a rumor is good enough for you.
Wow homer boy.
He's obsessed with UK and Duke, you know, the two programs that have been dragging their nuts across KU's face for years.
He denies it, but it's so freaking obvious.
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Some of you are just not accepting reality while trying to turn this into a circles game of nothing. We get it, the english language allows for everyone to pretend lawyer. No we can't pin you down, even audio / video evidence can be altered, right?
Kentucky went through a darker past and paid a price, albeit nothing to this extent. Everyone has cheated is not the same as everyone is cheating.
To me, it doesn't take much to assume Kentucky really isn't cheating. The premises easily lend themselves to a probable conclusion.
1. Cal is no fan of the NCAA, and neither is UK, as evident by historical record. There isn't a logical reason why UK wouldn't be receiving NOA. The theory of protection for UK isn't reasonable.
2. The FBI launched an extensive multi-year investigation into college basketball. Kentucky has not received an NOA and is, by all accounts, not getting one. UNC, Kansas, Louisville (and soon to be Arizona) have in one form or another. The NCAA is not shy of launching an investigation.
3. John Cal established a revolutionary system of utilizing OAD athletes while maintaing a good percentage of success from where they were ranked coming in, and where they settled going out; he was highly successful with the model both on and off the court. It is highly unlikely that anything could stop that train of momentum in that fashion, let alone have a situation where the top OAD players reject a UK offer and play for Oregon, Arizona, or even Duke in some cases. All programs without a pedigree of success with early entrees. Is there a good reason for why the top of the classes rejected that system other than what we just learned from the FBI? Unlikely. Especially for establishment / system coaches with a record of being hostile to the OAD, or programs without a pedigree like LSU or Oregon.
Fans don't have the ability to reason, which is why this goes in circles. And most of the time I'd be guilty of defending my own, but in this case, it's not hard to make a fairly firm assumption as to why UK fans have a reasonable expectation of cleanliness given the circumstances.
Kentucky went through a darker past and paid a price, albeit nothing to this extent. Everyone has cheated is not the same as everyone is cheating.
To me, it doesn't take much to assume Kentucky really isn't cheating. The premises easily lend themselves to a probable conclusion.
1. Cal is no fan of the NCAA, and neither is UK, as evident by historical record. There isn't a logical reason why UK wouldn't be receiving NOA. The theory of protection for UK isn't reasonable.
2. The FBI launched an extensive multi-year investigation into college basketball. Kentucky has not received an NOA and is, by all accounts, not getting one. UNC, Kansas, Louisville (and soon to be Arizona) have in one form or another. The NCAA is not shy of launching an investigation.
3. John Cal established a revolutionary system of utilizing OAD athletes while maintaing a good percentage of success from where they were ranked coming in, and where they settled going out; he was highly successful with the model both on and off the court. It is highly unlikely that anything could stop that train of momentum in that fashion, let alone have a situation where the top OAD players reject a UK offer and play for Oregon, Arizona, or even Duke in some cases. All programs without a pedigree of success with early entrees. Is there a good reason for why the top of the classes rejected that system other than what we just learned from the FBI? Unlikely. Especially for establishment / system coaches with a record of being hostile to the OAD, or programs without a pedigree like LSU or Oregon.
Fans don't have the ability to reason, which is why this goes in circles. And most of the time I'd be guilty of defending my own, but in this case, it's not hard to make a fairly firm assumption as to why UK fans have a reasonable expectation of cleanliness given the circumstances.
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Here’s what I know about the “everybody cheats” argument....I would much rather be in Kentucky’s position right now than Kansas, Louisville, Arizona, etc
Actually, $1 would still be cheating. I don't think it would fly in court if they argued that De Sousa's guardian's $2500 payment didn't matter because Ayton received 100k.
You can have your homerish opinion, and we'll have ours. What's the problem?
Not lying....The promo video has self in a T-shirt with a huge adidas logo on it, 5 gold chains (one with a huge $ sign on it) walking thru an old music shop. Pimping the NCAA like a boss lol
I was a moment too late.
...and my respect level of Self just went up x10. Boss wearing Adidas shirt with gold chain.
He might have as well just put his slonger across Emmert's face.
Nevermind Duke, but if recent history shows anything we'll win the next two. Winking
*If you're insecure you could only go back to '85 and you can brag about having a winning record.If I was insecure,I could say scoreboard regular and tournament games, and 4-3 UK w/ current coaches.
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