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They've beat 18 Kansas, 5 Iowa, 19 West Virginia and 15 Virginia... (all Kenpom ratings) All double digit wins but the WVU game. No question Michigan's schedule is much tougher, but I wouldn't say Gonzaga doesn't deserve to be #1.Everyone knows Michigan is the best team in the country
They've beat 18 Kansas, 5 Iowa, 19 West Virginia and 15 Virginia... (all Kenpom ratings) All double digit wins but the WVU game. No question Michigan's schedule is much tougher, but I wouldn't say Gonzaga doesn't deserve to be #1.
They've beat 18 Kansas, 5 Iowa, 19 West Virginia and 15 Virginia... (all Kenpom ratings) All double digit wins but the WVU game. No question Michigan's schedule is much tougher, but I wouldn't say Gonzaga doesn't deserve to be #1.
And two double-digit wins over #22 BYU. 6-0 against KenPom top 25 teams ain't too shabby.
nowhere near as difficult as Michigan's but people value being undefeated. It really doesn't make a huge difference. Both are locks to be #1 seeds.
Right. Gonzaga's schedule is clearly nowhere near the difficulty level of Michigan. Being the overall #1 seed might be more significant this year, however. If we believe the gap between Gonzaga, Michigan, and Baylor is substantial - that would mean Gonzaga wouldn't have to face either of those two teams until the championship game.
That's true. But we don't often see chalk until the Final Four. I think being the #1 overall seed is nice but not that significant.
@Ole_Ted just because you're not on tMB doesn't mean you are off the hook with not posting PAWG. Stick to what you're good at.
Because f*** Wisconsin, that's why......Why is everyone on this board all of a sudden going by Kenpom? How can anyone look at some of these side by side team comparisons and honestly say that it's the most accurate this season? This is one of the few years where the ap/coaches polls make a lot more sense and it's not even close..
I would prefer Iowa not have to face any of those teams until the championship game, either.Right. Gonzaga's schedule is clearly nowhere near the difficulty level of Michigan. Being the overall #1 seed might be more significant this year, however. If we believe the gap between Gonzaga, Michigan, and Baylor is substantial - that would mean Gonzaga wouldn't have to face either of those two teams until the championship game.
I would prefer Iowa not have to face any of those teams until the championship game, either.
In fact, it wouldn't break my heart if they didn't even make the Final Four with Iowa...........
Well, see if you can get Coach K to use his influence to help make that happen......More than likely you would have to beat one of them to advance to the Final Four. 1 seeds make it to the Elite Eight almost 70% of the time, and there's a noticeable gap between those three schools and the rest of college basketball. Would be hard to avoid them. But, who knows? Maybe you guys win out and earn the final 1 seed yourselves.
B12 lost to the SEC in their challenge. Baylor beat Illinois in Non Conference play. What are the B12's other marquee wins?I'm not sure why everyone is praising the Big 10 so much. Your entire conference's best OOC win is Loyola Chicago. Your conference didn't prove themselves to be world beaters in OOC. In fact you lost to every good team you played. Now all of a sudden yall are elite because you beat up on each other?
Look at the wins that the Big 12 has in OOC, way more impressive and they played more quality OOC teams too.
Iowa State over Jackson State.B12 lost to the SEC in their challenge. Baylor beat Illinois in Non Conference play. What are the B12's other marquee wins?
Don't make fun of that, it's 1 of their 2 wins on the year.Iowa State over Jackson State.
I'm not sure why everyone is praising the Big 10 so much. Your entire conference's best OOC win is Loyola Chicago. Your conference didn't prove themselves to be world beaters in OOC. In fact you lost to every good team you played. Now all of a sudden yall are elite because you beat up on each other?
Look at the wins that the Big 12 has in OOC, way more impressive and they played more quality OOC teams too.
How many more impressive wins do you think Michigan has?Still waiting on Gonzaga impressive wins?
How many more impressive wins do you think Michigan has?
Fwiw, Michigan's non-conference was about as challenging as the typical out-of-conference 11th game of an SEC football schedule............
B12 lost to the SEC in their challenge. Baylor beat Illinois in Non Conference play. What are the B12's other marquee wins?
Big Ten > ACC w/o Notre Dame > Big 12 > ACC w/Notre DameI'm not sure why everyone is praising the Big 10 so much. Your entire conference's best OOC win is Loyola Chicago. Your conference didn't prove themselves to be world beaters in OOC. In fact you lost to every good team you played. Now all of a sudden yall are elite because you beat up on each other?
Look at the wins that the Big 12 has in OOC, way more impressive and they played more quality OOC teams too.
That's what Alabama football fans argue....................and they're always wrong.Michigan doesn’t need a strong out of conference win when they play in the best conference in college basketball
Big Ten has 4 teams in top 10
I know Kansas beat Creighton which is still better than what the big 10 did.
Still waiting on Gonzaga impressive wins?
Being 24-0 when many teams around the country have not even played 24 games.
So far, Gonzaga has 24 "impressive" wins.
Gonzaga has also been preseason #1 and have been #1 every week since the season began.
The only other team to rival them is #3 Baylor who have been #2 all season until this last week.
Gonzaga's signature wins still in the current top25:
#6 West Virginia (B12), #13 Kansas(B12)
#5 Iowa (B10)
#21 Virginia (ACC)
Silly media rankings don’t impress me. Kansas is dog shit this year and Michigan already went in dry on Iowa
Let’s take a look at the teams who Gonzaga play in conference.....
Pepperdine
San Francisco
Loyola
Pacific
Portland
Santa Clara
Lol
Silly media rankings don’t impress me.
Agreed. Like how Illinois looked vs Baylor. Or how Ohio State looked pretty similar to UCLA, or how Oakland took Michigan to OT.It’s not only who they beat OOC, it’s how they looked doing it. If you watched any of the games you would probably have a better understanding than just looking at their schedule.
Then by your logic, the four Big10 teams (including Michigan) ranked in the top 10
are also 'silly'/overrated in where they are currently being ranked!
Iowa > MichiganSilly media rankings don’t impress me. Kansas is dog shit this year and Michigan already went in dry on Iowa
Let’s take a look at the teams who Gonzaga play in conference.....
Pepperdine
San Francisco
Loyola
Pacific
Portland
Santa Clara
Lol
Some teams pass the eye test and some don’t.
I’m honestly embarrassed for Gonzaga after seeing who they play in conference.
That’s the thing, everyone who thinks Gonzaga is deserved of number 1 is bc they pass the eye test. They have 3 probable nba players, 4 maybe counting ajaya(I know sp????)
And why? They’ve played in the same conference forever, and they didn’t exactly bust on the scene this season. They’ve done everything a program can besides win it all.