Who is Gonzaga signature win to warrant being ranked #1?
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They've beat 18 Kansas, 5 Iowa, 19 West Virginia and 15 Virginia... (all Kenpom ratings) All double digit wins but the WVU game. No question Michigan's schedule is much tougher, but I wouldn't say Gonzaga doesn't deserve to be #1.
Why is everyone on this board all of a sudden going by Kenpom? How can anyone look at some of these side by side team comparisons and honestly say that it's the most accurate this season? This is one of the few years where the ap/coaches polls make a lot more sense and it's not even close..
When you lose a game, it’s called a loss. Gonzaga doesn’t have one yet.
I just hope it’s all decided on the hardwood and not by bracket forfeitures.
I just hope it’s all decided on the hardwood and not by bracket forfeitures.
And two double-digit wins over #22 BYU. 6-0 against KenPom top 25 teams ain't too shabby.
Their schedule is nowhere near as difficult as Michigan's but people value being undefeated. It really doesn't make a huge difference. Both are locks to be #1 seeds.
Right. Gonzaga's schedule is clearly nowhere near the difficulty level of Michigan. Being the overall #1 seed might be more significant this year, however. If we believe the gap between Gonzaga, Michigan, and Baylor is substantial - that would mean Gonzaga wouldn't have to face either of those two teams until the championship game.
That's true. But we don't often see chalk until the Final Four. I think being the #1 overall seed is nice but not that significant.
It was significant in 2015 for Wisconsin. They were the 4th #1 seed, and they had to beat undefeated Kentucky, and then Duke.
Phat ass, Michigan sports and exposing liberals is what I’m good at, brah!!
EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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I would prefer Iowa not have to face any of those teams until the championship game, either.
In fact, it wouldn't break my heart if they didn't even make the Final Four with Iowa...........
More than likely you would have to beat one of them to advance to the Final Four. 1 seeds make it to the Elite Eight almost 70% of the time, and there's a noticeable gap between those three schools and the rest of college basketball. Would be hard to avoid them. But, who knows? Maybe you guys win out and earn the final 1 seed yourselves.
I'm not sure why everyone is praising the Big 10 so much. Your entire conference's best OOC win is Loyola Chicago. Your conference didn't prove themselves to be world beaters in OOC. In fact you lost to every good team you played. Now all of a sudden yall are elite because you beat up on each other?
Look at the wins that the Big 12 has in OOC, way more impressive and they played more quality OOC teams too.
Look at the wins that the Big 12 has in OOC, way more impressive and they played more quality OOC teams too.
EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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Well, see if you can get Coach K to use his influence to help make that happen......
B12 lost to the SEC in their challenge. Baylor beat Illinois in Non Conference play. What are the B12's other marquee wins?
EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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Don't make fun of that, it's 1 of their 2 wins on the year.
Is Loyola really their best OOC win? Now I see why they want to prop them up.
But yeah....wash, rinse, repeat every year. Big 10 gauntlet, blah blah....
EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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How many more impressive wins do you think Michigan has?
Fwiw, Michigan's non-conference was about as challenging as the typical out-of-conference 11th game of an SEC football schedule............
Michigan doesn’t need a strong out of conference win when they play in the best conference in college basketball
Big Ten has 4 teams in top 10
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That's what Alabama football fans argue....................and they're always wrong.
Baylor whipped Illinois, Oklahoma beat Bama, OSU beat Arkansas.
The top teams only lost to quality teams like Gonzaga, Houston, Tennessee, Florida.
Being 24-0 when many teams around the country have not even played 24 games.
So far, Gonzaga has 24 "impressive" wins.
Gonzaga has also been preseason #1 and have been #1 every week since the season began.
The only other team to rival them is #3 Baylor who have been #2 all season until this last week.
Gonzaga's signature wins still in the current top25:
#6 West Virginia (B12), #13 Kansas(B12)
#5 Iowa (B10)
#21 Virginia (ACC)
Silly media rankings don’t impress me. Kansas is dog shit this year and Michigan already went in dry on Iowa
Let’s take a look at the teams who Gonzaga play in conference.....
Pepperdine
San Francisco
Loyola
Pacific
Portland
Santa Clara
Lol
Then by your logic, the four Big10 teams (including Michigan) ranked in the top 10
are also 'silly'/overrated in where they are currently being ranked!
Agreed. Like how Illinois looked vs Baylor. Or how Ohio State looked pretty similar to UCLA, or how Oakland took Michigan to OT.
Some teams pass the eye test and some don’t.
I’m honestly embarrassed for Gonzaga after seeing who they play in conference.
EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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We have played them both and right now, Gonzaga is the best team in the country. And UM beating an Illini team without Ayo won't change my opinion and neither will beating up on MSU.
If UM beat IL with Ayo tonight, then yes. The win is meaningless now, thanks to the Spartan thuggery. Lol
But it's really a draw. Both teams are so similar.
If UM beat IL with Ayo tonight, then yes. The win is meaningless now, thanks to the Spartan thuggery. Lol
But it's really a draw. Both teams are so similar.
The Gonzaga-UVA game was like watching UConn play USF in women's basketball. We didn't belong on the same floor as them.
That’s the thing, everyone who thinks Gonzaga is deserved of number 1 is bc they pass the eye test. They have 3 probable nba players, 4 maybe counting ajaya(I know sp????)
And why? They’ve played in the same conference forever, and they didn’t exactly bust on the scene this season. They’ve done everything a program can besides win it all.
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