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8 UNC @ 1 Duke game thread

Haha coach K is such a little bitch...Roy has graciously shaken that slime balls hand many of times after taking loss and coach zips by like he shit himself...I hope Zion is ok, but im so glad that so many people wasted so much money to go to such a shit game. Im glad espn hyped it up. Im glad jay bilas and his pompous ass had to sit through that as Duke was completely exposed in front of the world. so glad Obama was there to see it also. that was fitting...

Zion is fantastic and i genuinely hope he has a speedy recovery, but if you cant muster up anything without him then duke is in trouble. Its north carolina at home and you all just laid the biggest fart on espn. Welcome back to reality.
 
Well, I saw the handshake thing dude was talking about. He definitely gave Roy the blow by. I'm sure he is concerned about Zion but for a dude who likes to lecture players on their behavior it was pretty disrespectful. Not surprising nor his best moment.



Haha coach K is such a little bitch...Roy has graciously shaken that slime balls hand many of times after taking loss and coach zips by like he shit himself...I hope Zion is ok, but im so glad that so many people wasted so much money to go to such a shit game. Im glad espn hyped it up. Im glad jay bilas and his pompous ass had to sit through that as Duke was completely exposed in front of the world. so glad Obama was there to see it also. that was fitting...

Zion is fantastic and i genuinely hope he has a speedy recovery, but if you cant muster up anything without him then duke is in trouble. Its north carolina at home and you all just laid the biggest fart on espn. Welcome back to reality.

Now wait just a damned minute. I saw that too, but I was quickly informed that the LOM was magnanimous in defeat and gave Roy the proper respect. “Manufactured drama” I was told. So stop besmirching the head coach of Duke.
 
Now wait just a damned minute. I saw that too, but I was quickly informed that the LOM was magnanimous in defeat and gave Roy the proper respect. “Manufactured drama” I was told. So stop besmirching the head coach of Duke.
You can see it better in the close up video. He did kind of blow by him. Oh well.
 
I agree. Just figured I would admit to being wrong. I didn't notice the cold shoulder until I saw the close up video. We are not our finest in shit times. Haha

Roy will have a 10 minute conversation in the handshake line if you let him get started. K just wanted to get to the locker room.

Nothing to see here. Move along.
 
I used UL because of the rivalry aspect....Figured you would understand why I said, "UL". Controlling emotions isn't that easy. MOF,you have no idea how UK would have reacted. You have no idea if Cal would have been able to reel in the emotions, get them focused, and been able to adjust to not having Davis for the next 39 minutes and 30 seconds. Nad of course...nor do I. But I'd say its a pretty safe assumption to say it wouldn't have been as simple as you think...

Duke shot three's b/c that is all that was available...And well, they panicked. UNC collapsed the lanes on Duke, and forced them to settle for jump shots. Duke bit. Like I said, when you are taliking emotions, you have no idea how kids are gonna react.

Its one thing to have time to prepare for an injury...Its a whole other to have to do so, 30 seconds into a game. I mean, as graet as K is...I doubt he has a game plan with NO Zion included.
I never said it would be easy, I simply said UK would have found a way to win against UL with the team Cal would have had. He simply had Pitino's number.

Yup, UNC collapsed driving lanes....in the half court, but that was an up and down game and Duke, at times, didn't even try to get the ball inside. Chucking 3's with 15+ seconds on the shot clock when all you're doing is causing fast break opportunities for UNC is not going to work.

I don't care what catastrophic event happened, you can't go 7-38 and win. That's why they lost.

Also, Duke, even with Zion, has a habit of shooting and missing way too many threes.

They still had RJ, Cam and Jones, don't tell me they couldn't get in the lane with those guys.
 
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I agree. Just figured I would admit to being wrong. I didn't notice the cold shoulder until I saw the close up video. We are not our finest in shit times. Haha

Roy will have a 10 minute conversation in the handshake line if you let him get started. K just wanted to get to the locker room.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

Oh, it isn’t a huge deal. Just kind of indicative of how he is a poor sport at times considering how he likes the hand on your chest conversation when his team wins. Seems more like something I would do, lol.

Personally, I think the handshake line is silly. Wish they would get rid of it.
 
I guess the whole "Tre Jones is the most important player on Duke" argument doesn't have a whole lot of merit anymore (not that I ever believed Tre was more valuable than the best player in the country). We're still a top 10 team without Tre (see UVA home game), but we're certainly not a top 10 team without Zion. More like a 5 or 6 seed.

RJ and Cam played fairly well, 60 points combined off of 21 for 45 shooting. The rest of the Duke team? Holy freaking crap. Try 4 for 27 (14.8%) for 12 points. The role players stunk it up big time.
 
I guess the whole "Tre Jones is the most important player on Duke" argument doesn't have a whole lot of merit anymore (not that I ever believed Tre was more valuable than the best player in the country). We're still a top 10 team without Tre (see UVA home game), but we're certainly not a top 10 team without Zion. More like a 5 or 6 seed.

RJ and Cam played fairly well, 60 points combined off of 21 for 45 shooting. The rest of the Duke team? Holy freaking crap. Try 4 for 27 (14.8%) for 12 points. The role players stunk it up big time.



Duke lost at home against Syracuse because you shot 40 3's and Tre Jones left the game with the injury. Zion get's hurt at home against UNC, 8-39 from 3 point range and you lose. See what I'm doing here? It looks like they're both important for Duke to succeed.
 
Duke lost at home against Syracuse because you shot 40 3's and Tre Jones left the game with the injury. Zion get's hurt at home against UNC, 8-39 from 3 point range and you lose. See what I'm doing here? It looks like they're both important for Duke to succeed.

Yes, but Cam Reddish was also missing. And Duke was actually competitive in the Syracuse game... and then we beat UVA without Tre Jones.

Of course they're both important. But Duke has pretty close to zero inside game without Zion, meaning they're forced to take a lot of jumpers without his presence - and shooting jumpers isn't exactly our strength.
 
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War over dookie...


(inside joke)
 
Wonder why the GOAT didn't consider a zone since they got abused in the paint and UNC shot 2/20 from three point range?

I was pretty surprised K didn't try to change things up more. I'm sure they made some subtle changes but nothing really drastic. It was a little odd. Roy would be getting killed if he ran out basically the same game plan while watching his team get throttled.
 
I was pretty surprised K didn't try to change things up more. I'm sure they made some subtle changes but nothing really drastic. It was a little odd. Roy would be getting killed if he ran out basically the same game plan while watching his team get throttled.

Yea, typically when your team is giving up a bunch of paint points the next option is to go zone. That would've allowed him to play bigger.
 
Yes, but Cam Reddish was also missing. And Duke was actually competitive in the Syracuse game... and then we beat UVA without Tre Jones.

Of course they're both important. But Duke has pretty close to zero inside game without Zion, meaning they're forced to take a lot of jumpers without his presence - and shooting jumpers isn't exactly our strength.


You shot more 3’s against Syracuse with Zion than you did last night without him.
 
I guess the whole "Tre Jones is the most important player on Duke" argument doesn't have a whole lot of merit anymore (not that I ever believed Tre was more valuable than the best player in the country). We're still a top 10 team without Tre (see UVA home game), but we're certainly not a top 10 team without Zion. More like a 5 or 6 seed.

RJ and Cam played fairly well, 60 points combined off of 21 for 45 shooting. The rest of the Duke team? Holy freaking crap. Try 4 for 27 (14.8%) for 12 points. The role players stunk it up big time.
Without Tre duke lost to a bad Syracuse team. Tre was a load on defense last night and really disrupted our guard play. I think Roy knew that was going to be the case which is why we focused on ball movement
 
I guess the whole "Tre Jones is the most important player on Duke" argument doesn't have a whole lot of merit anymore (not that I ever believed Tre was more valuable than the best player in the country). We're still a top 10 team without Tre (see UVA home game), but we're certainly not a top 10 team without Zion. More like a 5 or 6 seed.

RJ and Cam played fairly well, 60 points combined off of 21 for 45 shooting. The rest of the Duke team? Holy freaking crap. Try 4 for 27 (14.8%) for 12 points. The role players stunk it up big time.

I don't know if that's a fair comparison. We had time to prepare and adjust for Virginia. The comparison should be the Cuse and unc games.
 
Big win for unc, but you did it without Zion being in there. I’m in no way downplaying the win. I’m just saying he was a big piece. Same can be said for us beating Kansas without dok. He’s a huge piece. If unc can beat them with a healthy Zion that’s even bigger, but for duke to be missing their best player it doesn’t have the same feel to it. Congrats anyways unc fans
 
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I understand how important ZW is, best player in college basketball. Still amazed that Duke got blown out on their home court last night.
 
Big win for unc, but you did it without Zion being in there. I’m in no way downplaying the win. I’m just saying he was a big piece. Same can be said for us beating Kansas without dok. He’s a huge piece. If unc can beat them with a healthy Zion that’s even bigger, but for duke to be missing their best player it doesn’t have the same feel to it. Congrats anyways unc fans


That being said Duke had 4 other 5 star players playing last night. I do know Zion is a big piece in what they do but playing at home and with remaining talent they have the game shouldn’t of been a blowout. Syracuse beat Duke at home without Jones. Bottom line is Barrett, Reddish and Jones didn’t step up.
 
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That being said Duke had 4 other 5 star players playing last night. I do know Zion is a big piece in what they do but playing at home and with remaining talent they have the game shouldn’t of been a blowout. Syracuse beat Duke at home without Jones. Bottom line is Barrett, Reddish and Jones didn’t step up.
Dumbest and most consistent explanation I see from the Cheater U fans. Seems you folks don't understand the psyche of athletes and as soon as Zion went down, game over. Changes the whole game plan. Best inside player and scorer is gone. Maybe different if Zion is hurt last week and not playing, but not 33 seconds into the game.

But if that makes you feel better for beating Duke, good for you.
 
Dumbest and most consistent explanation I see from the Cheater U fans. Seems you folks don't understand the psyche of athletes and as soon as Zion went down, game over. Changes the whole game plan. Best inside player and scorer is gone. Maybe different if Zion is hurt last week and not playing, but not 33 seconds into the game.

But if that makes you feel better for beating Duke, good for you.


Grown folks forum here but you suck in masquerading as one. You know nothing about basketball and it looks like your little feelings are hurt. You have UNC on the brain 24/7 and that’s sad overall but you bring nothing to any conversation except your stupidity.
 
You shot more 3’s against Syracuse with Zion than you did last night without him.

If you take the time Zion missed from the UNC and FSU games, Duke took 99 shots; 52 of those shots were 3-pointers. So 52.5% of our field goal attempts without having the services of Zion have resulted in 3-point attempts. That's alarmingly high.

With a healthy Zion, 36.8% of our FGA are 3-pointers (588/1597). When Tre missed the UVA and Pitt games, less than 32% of our shots were 3. Why we took so many 3's against Syracuse is still a serious head-scratcher. We were 22/37 from 2, and 22/34. We just settled a little too much. Either way, shooting close to 40 threes is a recipe for disaster.

I'm not trying to dismiss the importance of Tre Jones at all. He is a critical piece of our team and we'll need him if we're going to make a long postseason run. But Duke without Zion is very, very beatable. We're forced to take a lot of jump-shots, and well, that just ain't our thing this year.
 
Haha coach K is such a little bitch...Roy has graciously shaken that slime balls hand many of times after taking loss and coach zips by like he shit himself...I hope Zion is ok, but im so glad that so many people wasted so much money to go to such a shit game. Im glad espn hyped it up. Im glad jay bilas and his pompous ass had to sit through that as Duke was completely exposed in front of the world. so glad Obama was there to see it also. that was fitting...

Zion is fantastic and i genuinely hope he has a speedy recovery, but if you cant muster up anything without him then duke is in trouble. Its north carolina at home and you all just laid the biggest fart on espn. Welcome back to reality.
Why keep it inside, tell us how you really feel. Let it out! Unload!
 
That being said Duke had 4 other 5 star players playing last night. I do know Zion is a big piece in what they do but playing at home and with remaining talent they have the game shouldn’t of been a blowout. Syracuse beat Duke at home without Jones. Bottom line is Barrett, Reddish and Jones didn’t step up.

Barrett and Reddish were fine. If you take out RJ, Cam, and Javin out of the picture, we were outstandingly bad last night, at least from a shooting perspective. The rest of the Duke team shot 1 for 24. I'm told 1 for 24 is not good.
 
I get that and I’m saying both Jones and Zion are important to Dukes success. As for who’s the most important that’s a toss up.
 
Grown folks forum here but you suck in masquerading as one. You know nothing about basketball and it looks like your little feelings are hurt. You have UNC on the brain 24/7 and that’s sad overall but you bring nothing to any conversation except your stupidity.
Yeah, my college basketball career disagrees with you. And if you think you act like an adult on an anonymous message board, think again. Grown ups huh? You are a fng loser. You think you are always right, I know I am not and can accept that.

Put your real name out there and lets see how much smack you talk tough guy
 
Dumbest and most consistent explanation I see from the Cheater U fans. Seems you folks don't understand the psyche of athletes and as soon as Zion went down, game over. Changes the whole game plan. Best inside player and scorer is gone. Maybe different if Zion is hurt last week and not playing, but not 33 seconds into the game.

But if that makes you feel better for beating Duke, good for you.
 
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Yeah, my college basketball career disagrees with you. And if you think you act like an adult on an anonymous message board, think again. Grown ups huh? You are a fng loser. You think you are always right, I know I am not and can accept that.

Put your real name out there and lets see how much smack you talk tough guy


LOL, anyone that replies to you is always right because all you bring to any conversation is BS.
 
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That being said Duke had 4 other 5 star players playing last night. I do know Zion is a big piece in what they do but playing at home and with remaining talent they have the game shouldn’t of been a blowout. Syracuse beat Duke at home without Jones. Bottom line is Barrett, Reddish and Jones didn’t step up.
To be fair, Barrett had 33 points and Reddish had 27. Not that points are everything, but I would say that they did what they could. Jones definitely shit the bed on offense. 1-11 from your PG won't get you far in any tournament and a lot of those shots were layups. It was a sad performance.

Obviously there is more to winning a game than scoring, you have to stop the other team from scoring as well. unc took advantage of Duke's biggest weakness, especially with Zion out and Bolden on the bench with foul trouble.

I think you and I could have passed the ball back and forth down the court and got to the rim against Duke's defense last night. It was an embarrassment to the entire program how they performed last night with or without their players. That is why the person who didn't step up last night was Krzyzewski more so than any particular player. Why in the hell would he not go to the zone against a team that scored 38 of their first 40 points in the paint? It is so infuriating. He did a piss poor coaching job last night. But it happens, we learn, we move on.
 
Dumbest and most consistent explanation I see from the Cheater U fans. Seems you folks don't understand the psyche of athletes and as soon as Zion went down, game over. Changes the whole game plan. Best inside player and scorer is gone. Maybe different if Zion is hurt last week and not playing, but not 33 seconds into the game.

But if that makes you feel better for beating Duke, good for you.

I'l put this out there...what did the head ball coach do adjustment wise to help his team after Zion went down?
 
To be fair, Barrett had 33 points and Reddish had 27. Not that points are everything, but I would say that they did what they could. Jones definitely shit the bed on offense. 1-11 from your PG won't get you far in any tournament and a lot of those shots were layups. It was a sad performance.

Obviously there is more to winning a game than scoring, you have to stop the other team from scoring as well. unc took advantage of Duke's biggest weakness, especially with Zion out and Bolden on the bench with foul trouble.

I think you and I could have passed the ball back and forth down the court and fot to the rim against Duke's defense last night. It was an embarrassment to the entire program how they performed last night with or without their players. That is why the person who didn't step up last night was Krzyzewski more so than any particular player. Why in the hell would he not do to the zone against a team that scored 38 of their first 40 points in the paint? It is so infuriating. He did a piss poor coaching job last night. But it happens, we learn, we move on.


I agree. Jones didn’t have a good game offensively but defensively he took Coby out of his.
 
LOL, anyone that replies to you is always right because all you bring to any conversation is BS.
So I guess you disagree with my post that the game was over when Zion went down. Said it to those I was watching with and didn't watch another minute. I hate losing to the cheaters at 100%, but without Zion, it turned out just like I thought it would.
And when can we look forward to you using your real name and only adult posts. Because I have yet to see that.
 
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