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All time is ALL TIME.... including all timeframes. UK > KU in every statistical category.... except where they trail in being investigated by the FBI.
I thought that was what you meant, which is why I found your description of the team’s interesting:
‘Great’ teams would generally be one of the nation’s 10 best, no?
Michigan State?
where I am coming from that with all the trouble they are in they still are in a position to be ranked at all.
kids don't care if programs cheat or are one of the dirtiest programs. they still choose to play for those dirty programs.
they are getting paid, there are other programs out that do win and put players into the NBA
does Turg cheat? does Archie cheat? did Beilein cheat? does Painter cheat?
from what I can find the answer is no although Archie the book is still out on the winning, but he has 1 that should end up a 1st Rnd pick if not a lottery pick.
like I said there are a lot of non dirty programs that are winners and put players into the NBA to choose over a dirty program.
even Fran has put players into the NBA, Marble was the 1st and made the roster until a eye injury which needed surgery to repair caused him to miss the rest of his 2nd season,
White was a draft and stash player for the Wizzard and are calling him back to play in the NBA.
so there are other teams to choose from,
So basically you’re mad that Iowa is a subpar program and you want kids to pick your school RollLaugh
You, on the other hand, make George Carlin look like George W.
The way you effortlessly toss off momma jokes is a thing to behold. RollLaugh
nope just pointing out there are better options out there than Stripper/Money U, to choose from,
as for Iowa Garza chose Iowa over stripper/money U so Fran is not worried about getting his players here are the 4* players on the roster by ESPN
PG 6'0 Toussaint out of NY
SG 6'5 Connor top 100 SG out of Iowa
SF 6'6 Wieskamp top 100 out of Iowa
PF 6'11 Garza top 100 out of DC
SF 6'8 Patrick top 100 out of Iowa
C 7'0 Nunge while not a 4* he was a 2 time largest class 4A 1st Team All State and runnerup in the voting for Indiana' Mr BB
that makes 4 top 100 players on this years team. this years team is not as bad off as most want it to be, the last 2 PG's that started as FR had these for FR Seasons.
12-13 Gesell 9-9 6th place 25 total wins losing in the NIT Championship game to Baylor
Jordan FR 10-8 tied for 5th lost to TT in the NIT 2nd rnd, that team also had 4 FR starters to go with SR Jok after losing 4 SR's to graduation.
FR Toussaint should do just as good as the 2 previous FR starters.
...it's actually U6, as given to them by the FBI. Don't be surprised by the way they think their NCAA troubles are over... it's pretty common among them. They also thought self-imposing no NCAA tournament penalty was enough punishment....until the NCAA took their 2013 banner away.
I follow recruiting as much as anyone and I’ve never heard of any player you just listed, so no, they did not choose Iowa “over” Louisville. If they chose Iowa it’s because several schools didn’t have a committable offer for them.
In all fairness to the Gayhawker, I think he clearly meant after the 14-15 season and starting in 2015-16 season. Hence no mention of your 14-15 FF.
Man, that 2018 sweet sixteen was cut short by a very good team I heard
I am able to forget quickly about UK when we are 3-1 last 4 and will continue to 4-1 this year in Lawrence. Yawn.
In all fairness to the Gayhawker, I think he clearly meant after the 14-15 season and starting in 2015-16 season. Hence no mention of your 14-15 FF.
Man, that 2018 sweet sixteen was cut short by a very good team I heard
This is a basketball board, little brother.
ahh yes the old and overused defense "they never had a commitable offer." this is the biggest Bull Shit response. you can't convince me they would turn down a top 100 4* center down if he was going to commit.
Great to elite teams are.
There are a lot of good to great teams.
Probably 30 of them in CBB. The cream rises to the top. As right now I think Michigan State is the only elite team to start the season.
Regarding the Big 12...
I don't think Kansas has the talent they usually have
Tech won't be elite without Culver
Baylor could be end up being a great team but I will have to see them win on a consistent level.
TCU is a possibility. They lose their PG.
Texas may have the most loaded roster in the Big 12 but Shaka has to prove himself
Oklahoma St with Lindy Waters and added depth will be a hard team to beat. A lot of people are looking them over.
Those 6 teams are very close to each other.
Think Kansas is for sure the best of the group but it will be hard for Kansas to get to that elite level because of the fact that there is that much depth in the Big 12.
De Sousa. Is 20? Right now. He could come in very mature and be that guy. I will have to see.
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If by “Turg”, you mean Turgeon, then you just proved that your investigative skills aren’t very keen, which, by extension, calls into question your judgment about the other coaches, including your own.
You generally make good points, but this is not one of those times.
One top 10 team? WTF? Are they just going to jump from 1 to 11?
Can't get to an elite level because of conference depth? That only makes a team better. Having more losses than Memphis won't make them a less elite team, and may not even hurt them much in polling.
You can put anyone between 2-10 right now.
These preseason polls are worthless.
Some years you have more than 1 team while others you do not.
As of right now I think Michigan St is the only legit Top 10 team.
Makes no sense.
Look, Mr Baracus is one lie away from being just as ignorant as uncfaninky, you can join him if you'd like.
You ignore the part where I said I never heard of a single player you mentioned. Sorry, most Iowa recruits weren’t up to ACC standards or higher up BIG 10 standards. We pass on players every class. One player eliminates the other. Every big program does. Can’t say the same about Iowa.
In those "8 threads" that you counted on the first page of RR (that’s a lie), how many were started by KU fans? Here's a hint, knee burns and nooneputsbabyinacorner are KU fans.
But hey, you don't ever go over to RR right
So is that better than losing to Northern Iowa? Bucknell in the first round? VCU? Bradley?
Didn't KU also get their hymen busted by Wichita State in the tournament too? Same program UK beat in recent tournament games.
@MrBaracus , I count 1 thread about KU and it's addressing all the KU trolls that have been visiting lately. There are two threads about best cbb programs, but I doubt you want to count those since they are positive KU threads.In those "8 threads" that you counted on the first page of RR (that’s a lie), how many were started by KU fans? Here's a hint, knee burns and nooneputsbabyinacorner are KU fans.
But hey, you don't ever go over to RR right
Nobody cares about KU, you want everyone to think someone is obsessed with KU, but it's just not true.
You would fit in perfectly with another fanbase that cries out for attention on here the same way you do.
Does your husband have a Dallas Cowboys tattoo on his buttcheak?
Agree on Texas. You guys could either go to an E8 or first round bounce. Shaka has to be the hottest seat in the nation right now. The Michigan assistant should help. I assume Andrew Jones is back. That’s key.
For us, I actually do think we have the elite talent, and more balanced across the plane this year in fact.
Dotson - top 3 PG returning in country
Doke - #1 big returning in country
Silvio - top 5 big returning in country
Agbaji might be top 5 most dynamic wings returning in country to boot.
I don’t see in any recent times is having that level of balance of elite talent across the floor. It’s always seemingly been backcourt-loaded (16/17/18 with Frank and Devonte) or front (11/12/13/14 runs with the twins, Embiid and T-Rob/Withey).
2011 had both I guess but hard to consider Elijah and Tyshawn elite that year. If Sherron was around an extra year, then yes.
2018 maybe if Preston was eligible all year, but still thin and young in frontcourt.
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how? do you have proof that the coaches I mentioned cheated?
when has Turgeon ever cheated and I want proof.
First off, please stop trying to be funny. Still doesn't work.
And LOL @ the idea that anything positive is said about KU on that board.
When I was there a week ago, there were at least 6 KU-related threads on the first page. Yes, 1-2 created by KU fans. But a non-obsessed fanbase would have let those die rather than turn them into multi-pagers.
2009-2014/15 seasons they probably had very few KU posts as they were focused on themselves more as Cal had them rockin.
I would venture to guess they’ve had a lot the last couple years bc weve owned them and will continue to own them going forward.
Self is just a better coach than Cal right now. We have a better system in place.
The one and done thing is losing its glimmer. Self is getting out of it while Cal and K are still all in on it.
Proof: Villanova 2 of last 4 natties.
yeah these were some terrible recruits
Top 50 Woodbury who Roy Williams of the ACC Wanted
Marble a 2nd rnd NBA pick that made the team
White a FR AA and 2nd rnd NBA Pick that the Wizzards stashed overseas and just recalled him
Uthoff 2nd Team AA
Jok as a FR and SO in HS was top 5 in his class, till knee surgery took him out of the ratings ended up leading the BT in scoring
all 4 of these ended up 1st Team All BT
Last season Cook who was rated #38 overall and #8 PF was as 2nd Team All BT. now in the NBA draft as a JR, who chose Iowa over Kansas, the recruiting is getting better this fall has 4 top 100 4* and 1 4* just outside the top 100.
PG Toussaint was the NYC MVP of the NYC Championship #1 player in NYC and the NY Co-POY and #2 player in the state. by NYHoops. he had a injured shoulder during the summer camps that's why he never truely got a fair ranking.
they may not be 1 n Done players but they are the 3-4 year players that get better each year.
Andrew Jones should play. That was why EML ended up in the transfer portal.
Shaka is confident in Jones and incoming Freshmen Donovan Williams.
There is a chance they could have one of the best backcourts in college basketball.
Regarding KU I am talking about depth not just with the starters.
I have seen Kansas teams put together 9-10 players that could start pretty much anywhere in the country.
I don't see that this year. Plus your big is injury prone. De Sousa hasn't stepped onto the court. I think age could be a factor as he is mature but I am not 100% sure that he is a major impact player yet. Look at Grimes last year. I thought Grimes was for sure the #1 incoming player in the Big 12.
