Preseason Top 75 Teams / Top 150 Players

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Here are my preseason rankings of the top 75 teams and top 150 most impactful players. As always, it is flawed. I could easily think of another 50+ players that are worthy of top 150 consideration .


PRESEASON TOP 150 PLAYERS
1. Oscar Tshiebwe, Kentucky
2. Armando Bacot, North Carolina
3. Drew Timme, Gonzaga
4. Marcus Sasser, Houston
5. Trayce Jackson-Davis, Indiana
6. Hunter Dickinson, Michigan
7. Jaime Jaquez, UCLA
8. Kendric Davis, Memphis
9. Nick Smith, Arkansas
10. Zach Edey, Purdue
11. Adama Sanogo, UConn
12. Mike Miles, TCU
13. Jalen Wilson, Kansas
14. Keyonte George, Baylor
15. Azuolas Tubelis, Arizona
16. Dereck Lively, Duke
17. Isaiah Wong, Miami
18. Cam Whitmore, Villanova
19. Tyger Campbell, UCLA
20. Caleb Love, North Carolina
21. Ryan Kalkbrenner, Creighton
22. Kris Murray, Iowa
23. Adam Flagler, Baylor
24. Colin Castleton, Florida
25. Dariq Whitehead, Duke
26. Santiago Vescovi, Tennessee
27. Matt Bradley, San Diego State
28. Brandon Miller, Alabama
29. RJ Davis, North Carolina
30. Max Abmas, Oral Roberts
31. Julian Strawther, Gonzaga
32. Jelly Walker, UAB
33. LJ Cryer, Baylor
34. Nijel Pack, Miami
35. Darius McGhee, Liberty
36. Will Richardson, Oregon
37. DaRon Holmes, Dayton
38. Timmy Allen, Texas
39. Hunter Maldonado, Wyoming
40. Terquavion Smith, NC State
41. Tyrese Hunter, Texas
42. Jayden Gardner, Virginia
43. Terrence Shannon, Illinois
44. Sahvir Wheeler, Kentucky
45. Harrison Ingram, Stanford
46. Arthur Kaluma, Creighton
47. Kevin McCullar, Kansas
48. Jake Stephens, Chattanooga
49. Jack Nunge, Xavier
50. Drew Peterson, USC
51. Ryan Nembhard, Creighton
52. Justyn Mutts, Virginia Tech
53. Graham Ike, Wyoming
54. Posh Alexander, St. John's
55. Cliff Omoruyi, Rutgers
56. Marcus Carr, Texas
57. Colby Jones, Xavier
58. Antoine Davis, Detroit
59. Jared Bynum, Providence
60. Javonte Perkins, Saint Louis
61. KJ Williams, LSU
62. Amari Bailey, UCLA
63. Isiaih Mosley, Missouri
64. Foster Loyer, Davidson
65. Jeremy Roach, Duke
66. Jalen Cook, Tulane
67. GG Jackson, South Carolina
68. Tyler Burton, Richmond
69. DeAndre Williams, Memphis
70. Tucker DeVries, Drake
71. Dane Goodwin, Notre Dame
72. Yuri Collins, Saint Louis
73. Josiah-Jordan James, Tennessee
74. Kevin Obanor, Texas Tech
75. Pelle Larsson, Arizona
76. Kel'el Ware, Oregon
77. Malachi Smith, Gonzaga
78. Pete Nance, North Carolina
79. Tramon Mark, Houston
80. Caleb Mills, Florida State
81. Ace Baldwin, VCU
82. Moussa Cisse, Oklahoma State
83. Mark Sears, Alabama
84. Nolan Hickman, Gonzaga
85. Damion Baugh, TCU
86. Caleb McConnell, Rutgers
87. Eric Dixon, Villanova
88. Zakai Zeigler, Tennessee
89. Baylor Scheierman, Creighton
90. Reece Beekman, Virginia
91. Jordan Hawkins, UConn
92. Grant Sherfield, Oklahoma
93. Johni Broome, Auburn
94. DeAndre Williams, Memphis
95. Cason Wallace, Kentucky
96. David Jones, St. John's
97. Caleb Daniels, Villanova
98. PJ Hall, Clemson
99. Jarace Walker, Houston
100. Anthony Black, Arkansas
101. Jamarion Sharp, Western Kentucky
102. Josh Oduro, George Mason
103. Trey Alexander, Creighton
104. AJ Hoggard, Michigan State
105. Jesse Edwards, Syracuse
106. Tolu Smith, Mississippi State
107. Avery Anderson, Oklahoma State
108. Matthew Cleveland, Florida State
109. Emanuel Miller, TCU
110. Matthew Mayer, Illinois
111. Jamison Battle, Minnesota
112. Wendell Green, Auburn
113. Kam Jones, Marquette
114. Jaelen House, New Mexico
115. Tosan Evbuomwan, Princeton
116. Tyreke Key, Tennessee
117. Tyler Wahl, Wisconsin
118. Coleman Hawkins, Illinois
119. Kadary Richmond, Seton Hall
120. Jalen Slawson, Furman
121. Keyonate Johnson, Kansas State
122. Kowacie Reeves, Florida
123. Mouhamed Gueye, Washington State
124. Tyrece Radford, Texas A&M
125. Xavier Johnson, Indiana
126. Julian Phillips, Tennessee
127. Tre Mitchell, West Virginia
128. Brandon Murray, Georgetown
129. Gradey Dick, Kansas
130. Kerr Kriisa, Arizona
131. Tyrese Proctor, Duke
132. John Hugley, Pittsburgh
133. Boogie Ellis, USC
134. Dawson Garcia, Minnesota
135. Oumar Ballo, Arizona
136. Henry Coleman, Texas A&M
137. Khalif Battle, Temple
138. Nate Laszewski, Notre Dame
139. Jaelin Llewellyn, Michigan
140. Zed Key, Ohio State
141. Trevon Brazille, Missouri
142. Daylen Kountz, Northern Colorado
143. Jalen Pickett, Penn State
144. Drew Pember, UNC Asheville
145. Chuck Harris, Butler
146. Kyle Lofton, Florida
147. JJ Starling, Notre Dame
148. JT Shumate, Toledo
149. Aaron Estrada, Hofstra
150. Nae'Qwan Tomlin, Kansas State
 
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Semi-respectable preseason top 75.

PRESEASON TOP 75 TEAMS
1. Houston
2. North Carolina
3. Baylor
4. Kentucky
5. Tennessee
6. Creighton
7. Gonzaga
8. Kansas
9. UCLA
10. Texas
11. Duke
12. Arkansas
13. Indiana
14. TCU
15. Miami
16. San Diego State
17. Villanova
18. Arizona
19. Illinois
20. Virginia
21. UConn
22. Alabama
23. Oregon
24. Saint Louis
25. Auburn

26. Xavier
27. LSU
28. Michigan
29. Florida State
30. Texas Tech
31. Wyoming
32. Texas A&M
33. Purdue
34. Virginia Tech
35. Dayton
36. Florida
37. Michigan State
38. Oklahoma State
39. St. John's
40. Notre Dame
41. Providence
42. UAB
43. Ohio State
44. Memphis
45. USC
46. Iowa
47. Oklahoma
48. Missouri
49. Saint Mary's
50. Rutgers

51. Seton Hall
52. Maryland
53. Cincinnati
54. Wake Forest
55. Ole Miss
56. BYU
57. Tulane
58. Stanford
59. Penn State
60. Syracuse
61. Furman
62. Kansas State
63. Arizona State
64. North Texas
65. VCU
66. Boston College
67. Loyola Chicago
68. Colorado
69. Temple
70. Wisconsin
71. Mississippi State
72. Marquette
73. Vanderbilt
74. West Virginia
75. Liberty
 
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Think you might be selling the Gatorade player of the year a little short.SmokinSmile
 

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You might want to have Stetson ahead of us.
Obviously understand that, but you guys had what, 9 scholly players last night? Not even Thanksgiving yet, FSU will improve.

And don't get me started what NCAA is doing to Baba...
 

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Obviously understand that, but you guys had what, 9 scholly players last night? Not even Thanksgiving yet, FSU will improve.

And don't get me started what NCAA is doing to Baba...

We had 8. But only two of the 5 out will come back this season, and one of them won’t come back until January.

Worse than that, our effort was pathetic. The toughness, the grit, the defensive disruption, the willingness to run through a wall for your teammate, all the hallmarks of FSU teams in the last 6-7 years, none of it was present.
 
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Think you might be selling the Gatorade player of the year a little short.SmokinSmile

Maybe. Idk. I saw one of his Sunrise Christian games and I wasn't blown away. Small sample size, though.. Obviously he can shoot. And 23 points in his college debut is nice. If he's KU's leading scorer, then he should easily be a top 50 player.
 

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Maybe. Idk. I saw one of his Sunrise Christian games and I wasn't blown away. Small sample size, though.. Obviously he can shoot. And 23 points in his college debut is nice. If he's KU's leading scorer, then he should easily be a top 50 player.

I wasn't blown away by the high school game I saw either. Maybe we saw the same game. I was surprised to see him named Gatorade NPOY. But based on the Omaha game and the exhibition, he definitely looks like that kind of player. His game looks polished and he's more than just a shooter. Will be interesting to see how he does against Duke.
 
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150. Nae'Qwan Tomlin, Kansas State

Anyone every heard of him? Some people call him the JUCO Giannis. Obviously hyperbolic, but I'm excited to see this kid play. He didn't start playing basketball on a team until after he graduated high school. Could be someone who blossoms during the season. He had 14 points and 8 rebounds in only 19 minutes of action on Monday night. I thought seriously about taking him with my 12th round pick in the college basketball draft.

Also, can someone find me a more exciting passer in college basketball than Taran Armstrong (via Australia), who plays for California Baptist. His crosscourt passes are on point. First chance for most to see him play will be November 21st on CBS Sports Network where they'll be playing.

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Well, it's a preseason ranking, so I'm certainly going to miss on quite a few. But, seems a little too reactionary to make a judgement off of one game. They should have beaten Zona last year in the tourney - and they return all 5 starters. They'll be fine.

Okay.
 

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Here are my preseason rankings of the top 75 teams and top 150 most impactful players. As always, it is flawed. I could easily think of another 50+ players that are worthy of top 150 consideration .


PRESEASON TOP 150 PLAYERS
1. Oscar Tshiebwe, Kentucky
2. Armando Bacot, North Carolina
3. Drew Timme, Gonzaga
4. Marcus Sasser, Houston
5. Trayce Jackson-Davis, Indiana
6. Hunter Dickinson, Michigan
7. Jaime Jaquez, UCLA
8. Kendric Davis, Memphis
9. Nick Smith, Arkansas
10. Zach Edey, Purdue
11. Adama Sanogo, UConn
12. Mike Miles, TCU
13. Jalen Wilson, Kansas
14. Keyonte George, Baylor
15. Azuolas Tubelis, Arizona
16. Dereck Lively, Duke
17. Isaiah Wong, Miami
18. Cam Whitmore, Villanova
19. Tyger Campbell, UCLA
20. Caleb Love, North Carolina
21. Ryan Kalkbrenner, Creighton
22. Kris Murray, Iowa
23. Adam Flagler, Baylor
24. Colin Castleton, Florida
25. Dariq Whitehead, Duke
26. Santiago Vescovi, Tennessee
27. Matt Bradley, San Diego State
28. Brandon Miller, Alabama
29. RJ Davis, North Carolina
30. Max Abmas, Oral Roberts
31. Julian Strawther, Gonzaga
32. Jelly Walker, UAB
33. LJ Cryer, Baylor
34. Nijel Pack, Miami
35. Darius McGhee, Liberty
36. Will Richardson, Oregon
37. DaRon Holmes, Dayton
38. Timmy Allen, Texas
39. Hunter Maldonado, Wyoming
40. Terquavion Smith, NC State
41. Tyrese Hunter, Texas
42. Jayden Gardner, Virginia
43. Terrence Shannon, Illinois
44. Sahvir Wheeler, Kentucky
45. Harrison Ingram, Stanford
46. Arthur Kaluma, Creighton
47. Kevin McCullar, Kansas
48. Jake Stephens, Chattanooga
49. Jack Nunge, Xavier
50. Drew Peterson, USC
51. Ryan Nembhard, Creighton
52. Justyn Mutts, Virginia Tech
53. Graham Ike, Wyoming
54. Posh Alexander, St. John's
55. Cliff Omoruyi, Rutgers
56. Marcus Carr, Texas
57. Colby Jones, Xavier
58. Antoine Davis, Detroit
59. Jared Bynum, Providence
60. Javonte Perkins, Saint Louis
61. KJ Williams, LSU
62. Amari Bailey, UCLA
63. Isiaih Mosley, Missouri
64. Foster Loyer, Davidson
65. Jeremy Roach, Duke
66. Jalen Cook, Tulane
67. GG Jackson, South Carolina
68. Tyler Burton, Richmond
69. DeAndre Williams, Memphis
70. Tucker DeVries, Drake
71. Dane Goodwin, Notre Dame
72. Yuri Collins, Saint Louis
73. Josiah-Jordan James, Tennessee
74. Kevin Obanor, Texas Tech
75. Pelle Larsson, Arizona
76. Kel'el Ware, Oregon
77. Malachi Smith, Gonzaga
78. Pete Nance, North Carolina
79. Tramon Mark, Houston
80. Caleb Mills, Florida State
81. Ace Baldwin, VCU
82. Moussa Cisse, Oklahoma State
83. Mark Sears, Alabama
84. Nolan Hickman, Gonzaga
85. Damion Baugh, TCU
86. Caleb McConnell, Rutgers
87. Eric Dixon, Villanova
88. Zakai Zeigler, Tennessee
89. Baylor Scheierman, Creighton
90. Reece Beekman, Virginia
91. Jordan Hawkins, UConn
92. Grant Sherfield, Oklahoma
93. Johni Broome, Auburn
94. DeAndre Williams, Memphis
95. Cason Wallace, Kentucky
96. David Jones, St. John's
97. Caleb Daniels, Villanova
98. PJ Hall, Clemson
99. Jarace Walker, Houston
100. Anthony Black, Arkansas
101. Jamarion Sharp, Western Kentucky
102. Josh Oduro, George Mason
103. Trey Alexander, Creighton
104. AJ Hoggard, Michigan State
105. Jesse Edwards, Syracuse
106. Tolu Smith, Mississippi State
107. Avery Anderson, Oklahoma State
108. Matthew Cleveland, Florida State
109. Emanuel Miller, TCU
110. Matthew Mayer, Illinois
111. Jamison Battle, Minnesota
112. Wendell Green, Auburn
113. Kam Jones, Marquette
114. Jaelen House, New Mexico
115. Tosan Evbuomwan, Princeton
116. Tyreke Key, Tennessee
117. Tyler Wahl, Wisconsin
118. Coleman Hawkins, Illinois
119. Kadary Richmond, Seton Hall
120. Jalen Slawson, Furman
121. Keyonate Johnson, Kansas State
122. Kowacie Reeves, Florida
123. Mouhamed Gueye, Washington State
124. Tyrece Radford, Texas A&M
125. Xavier Johnson, Indiana
126. Julian Phillips, Tennessee
127. Tre Mitchell, West Virginia
128. Brandon Murray, Georgetown
129. Gradey Dick, Kansas
130. Kerr Kriisa, Arizona
131. Tyrese Proctor, Duke
132. John Hugley, Pittsburgh
133. Boogie Ellis, USC
134. Dawson Garcia, Minnesota
135. Oumar Ballo, Arizona
136. Henry Coleman, Texas A&M
137. Khalif Battle, Temple
138. Nate Laszewski, Notre Dame
139. Jaelin Llewellyn, Michigan
140. Zed Key, Ohio State
141. Trevon Brazille, Missouri
142. Daylen Kountz, Northern Colorado
143. Jalen Pickett, Penn State
144. Drew Pember, UNC Asheville
145. Chuck Harris, Butler
146. Kyle Lofton, Florida
147. JJ Starling, Notre Dame
148. JT Shumate, Toledo
149. Aaron Estrada, Hofstra
150. Nae'Qwan Tomlin, Kansas State
116. Tyreke Key, Tennessee will be much better than he is listed at. Just sayin...
 

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116. Tyreke Key, Tennessee will be much better than he is listed at. Just sayin...

Being ranked in the top 150 means you're a really good player. This should not be a slight. I've seen 4 other rankings of top 100 players and Key isn't listed in any of them.

If he gets enough touches, I think he could certainly lead Tennessee in scoring. But, Tennessee has a fairly balanced offense. So, not sure what his usage rate will be. Either way, Tennessee is a top 10 team with a lot of talent.
 
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Emoni Bates is playing pretty well against Michigan. Maybe the move to Eastern Michigan was a good one.
He didn't fit in at Memphis. On or off the court. Blame Penny and or the city of Memphis. It's not for everyone.

Everything I've read/heard he's a good kid. Dad, Penny, etc hasn't done him any favors.
 
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He has been fun to watch but is going to load up on techs if he always acts like this, lol. He has some talent though. Shot resembles Curry a bit to me (in look).
 
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Well, it's a preseason ranking, so I'm certainly going to miss on quite a few. But, seems a little too reactionary to make a judgement off of one game. They should have beaten Zona last year in the tourney - and they return all 5 starters. They'll be fine.
As I was saying.
 
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As I was saying.

Haha that's a bad loss. Looks like Mike Miles missed the game, though. Still, a really bad L.

I don't think it's reactionary to think TCU will be top-15 good this year, though. The Zona game wasn't a single sample size. They were 26th in KenPom. It's not that far-fetched to think the 26th best team, returning everyone, could be a top 15 team. Downside for TCU, is it seems like none of their guards can shoot consistently from the outside.