Too bad there aren't any Mizzou fans to represent that sinking ship.
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Illinois played a great 35 minutes and a terrible 5 minutes against Baylor, and Kofi Cockburn was in foul trouble the whole game. The score does not indicate how close that game was and if Kofi didn’t get in foul trouble it could have been a different story.
Baylor is really fvcking good, it’s themand the Zags at the top, but who besides those 2 are clearly over Illinois.
We saw two different games.
I saw a team being coached up and fighting way harder than the other. When Baylor started fighting Illinois disappeared
They did make some great shots and a lot of teams would have been down by 20.
But Illinois still hasn't proven to me to be a Final 4 contender.
3 legit ones right now
Gonzaga, Villanova and Baylor
Then 7-8 others who could make it
Interested in seeing Illinois in the B1G
Have a feeling they start to skip.
There aren't many teams who can match the efficiency that Villanova has on offense plus combine that with rebounding and a great defense.
Legit Final 4 team this year.
Way better than Illinois for that matter.
Legit Final 4 team this year.
Way better than Illinois for that matter.
From what we have seen.
Iowa
Michigan State
Wisconsin
Kansas
West Virginia
Texas
Houston
Illinois is in the next group. With Texas Tech , Creighton, Ohio St, Michigan, Virginia and a few others.
Duke isn't a Top 25 team right now
Illinois is going to prove who they are the next month.
This game against Missouri is a good start
Mizzou has a lot to prove
Buford had a hard on for Illinois. Ignore him. Not worth having a discussion with someone who is arguing with feelings.
Illinois is a top ten team. Underwood teams get stronger as the season goes. They played with Baylor the entire way, but Baylor is a class above every team not Gonzaga.
Illinois is a top ten team. Underwood teams get stronger as the season goes. They played with Baylor the entire way, but Baylor is a class above every team not Gonzaga.
Hitting you with the truth
Underwood coached up that team. They were playing like they had something to prove...
But when Baylor turned in on Illinois was no where to be seen.
So your point about Baylor being that much above everyone else or even Illinois proving to be a Top 10 team isn't based on anything yet
Not enough games.
I do believe Baylor is a legit Final 4 team but Baylor is going to take a some losses in the Big 12.
Illinois definitely will once the B1G schedule starts. I see them falling out of the Top 10 pretty soon.
Underwood coached up that team. They were playing like they had something to prove...
But when Baylor turned in on Illinois was no where to be seen.
So your point about Baylor being that much above everyone else or even Illinois proving to be a Top 10 team isn't based on anything yet
Not enough games.
I do believe Baylor is a legit Final 4 team but Baylor is going to take a some losses in the Big 12.
Illinois definitely will once the B1G schedule starts. I see them falling out of the Top 10 pretty soon.
You're hitting me with opinion. One that's not worth the time to argue against. Baylor was locked in the entire game. Acting like they weren't trying except for 5 minutes is idiotic.
This is what Cuonzo does. He has 1 good year every few years then he goes back to the bubble (usually the wrong side). Next year, Mizzou will be awful again. This season, he'll likely slide them in as an 8 or 9 seed.
You do know what turned up Baylor...
Was when #45? Hawkins ripped the ball from Mitchell
Scott Drew called a time out and after that Baylor was getting the ball everytime there was no possession.
To say Illinois played with Baylor...
Just basketball. Legit teams have a gear that others can't reach
The difference between Duke and Baylor. Duke doesn't have the experience on the court to withstand that.
Baylor did and then when Baylor turned it up Illinois disappeared
Baylor just needed 3 minutes to beat Illinois
Was when #45? Hawkins ripped the ball from Mitchell
Scott Drew called a time out and after that Baylor was getting the ball everytime there was no possession.
To say Illinois played with Baylor...
Just basketball. Legit teams have a gear that others can't reach
The difference between Duke and Baylor. Duke doesn't have the experience on the court to withstand that.
Baylor did and then when Baylor turned it up Illinois disappeared
Baylor just needed 3 minutes to beat Illinois
Love the FF talk in a thread like this.
I have seen nearly 0 games this year.
Baylor have great guard play? I assume they do. I respect 75% of the field it feels pretty crazy to be carving out FF probability the first week of December no?
There are very few people I root against especially since this has been such a tough year. The HC @ Baylor has lost to Yale and GA St in the NCAAs. Maybe those teams weren't his best. I know he has reached the E8 a few times. He's done a solid job would be a nice break through year if they got there, but keep in mind he's yet to do it and they are probably carrying a 1 or 2 seed into the post season - there is some pressure with that coming with it.
The B10 is just loaded. The top tier teams will show who they are, I would not underestimate any mid-pack team from that league that gets a bid.
I have seen nearly 0 games this year.
Baylor have great guard play? I assume they do. I respect 75% of the field it feels pretty crazy to be carving out FF probability the first week of December no?
There are very few people I root against especially since this has been such a tough year. The HC @ Baylor has lost to Yale and GA St in the NCAAs. Maybe those teams weren't his best. I know he has reached the E8 a few times. He's done a solid job would be a nice break through year if they got there, but keep in mind he's yet to do it and they are probably carrying a 1 or 2 seed into the post season - there is some pressure with that coming with it.
The B10 is just loaded. The top tier teams will show who they are, I would not underestimate any mid-pack team from that league that gets a bid.
According to KenPom Illinois would be the sixth best team in the Big 12
Bottom half of the conference
Bottom half of the conference
Lol. KenPom doesn't mean shit the first part of the season, and KenPom says as much. Illinois being below 6 Big 12 teams is a perfect example. Thanks for bringing that up.
Baylor is the class of the Big 12, and it's really not even close. Texas is going to do what it's always done. West Virginia is okay, but they're nothing special they can't shoot. Kansas is good, but not on that level.
Baylor is the class of the Big 12, and it's really not even close. Texas is going to do what it's always done. West Virginia is okay, but they're nothing special they can't shoot. Kansas is good, but not on that level.
MSU struggled with Duke more than Illinois did, and we’ve not played great against some cupcakes. I don’t think we’re an amazing team right now.
Don't think he was even talking about Underwood
You seem to find conflict where there is none
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You seem to try to drag Illinois basketball any opportunity you get. Show us on the doll where we hurt you.
Can’t wait for KU to start playing Missouri again. I’ve missed talking trash to those mulletheads.
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You seem to try to drag Illinois basketball any opportunity you get. Show us on the doll where we hurt you.
You suck at this
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That’s odd
I’d bet Illinois finishes above 2 or more of those teams if your boomer-ass believes that.
Possibly
But there is no verifiable proof yet.
That is my argument against Illinois
Coach doesn't have a track record
After 5 games their only game against top competition didn't turn out well.
Play on the court...
Good team. Could be in the mix on the second weekend.
Going to find life tough in the B1G this season.
As of right now I have them going into the tournament as a 3-5.
I don't think they are good enough to get through the B1G and end up a 1-2.
So they may find themselves in the same bracket as a Baylor, Villanova or Gonzaga.
My point is what has MSU or Wisconsin shown you this year that is verifiable proof they are legit but Illinois isn’t?
Track record does come into play.
Both teams know who they are and know what they have to do to win.
Wisconsin has older guards and pretty much besides Michigan St represents B1G basketball.
Michigan State has showed regardless of seed they will be a threat
So how they finish in the B1G isn't as important as others.
That is your “verifiable proof” that those teams are contenders in 2020/21 but Illinois isn’t?
Who in the Big 10 do you tihnk is better? MSU, Iowa or Wisconsin?
Have you even watched Illinois play, outside of the Baylor game? BTW, that game was tied with 12 minutes to go....A 3 point game around 10 minutes...Baylor went a 9-0 spurt, that pretty much iced the game....Its not as if Baylor just steamed rolled Illinois, dude. Not to mention, Kofi being in foul trouble.
There are not, nor will there be, 15+ better teams than Illinois....They are as good as anyone.
they’re definitely putting up a final four worthy performance against that juggernaut Georgetown program so far 😒
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