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2019 FF: 1, 2, 3 and 5
2018 FF: 11 and a 3
2017: 3 and 7
2016: 10 seed
2015: 7 seed
2014: 7 and 8

See a trend, here?

BTW---If you are alluding to the need of being a 1 or a 2 to get to a FF---and obviously that helps---What makes you think teams you placed above Illinois, has a better opportunity of being a 2-seed? Texas----why? Villanova---why? Iowa----Why? Wisconsin---why? I mean sans Wright at Nova, which of the other coaches get your "benefit of the doubt" tag?

Loyola of Chicago in 2018 wasn't better than Texas Tech....

Texas Tech played Villanova in the Elite 8

From the Sweet 16 on Villanova played better teams than Loyola of Chicago

UMBC changed that bracket
 
Duke is 2-2 and Coach K is questioning why the season is being played

Michigan St is undefeated
And? I mean you don't think a coach who has over a 1,000 games, has 13 FF's and 5 natty's could possibly "figure things out"? I mean are you fukin serious? You are ready to write off Coach K and Duke b/cthey are 2-2 in fukin December?

Man , I mean really, dude....Just stop.
 
Loyola of Chicago in 2018 wasn't better than Texas Tech....

Texas Tech played Villanova in the Elite 8

From the Sweet 16 on Villanova played better teams than Loyola of Chicago

UMBC changed that bracket
I guess you din't see the trend....
 
And? I mean you don't think a coach who has over a 1,000 games, has 13 FF's and 5 natty's could possibly "figure things out"? I mean are you fukin serious? You are ready to write off Coach K and Duke b/cthey are 2-2 in fukin December?

Man , I mean really, dude....Just stop.

Who said about writing anyone off...

Except Indiana.

They may not even make the Tournament
 
This is an inferiority complex plain and simple.

Also, just say it's a gut feeling so you can stop pretending it is well-reasoned and rational. You're shooting from the hip, and that's fine.
 
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B1G fans are pretty insecure.

They have 9 Final 4 quality teams according to some of you...

Indiana definitely isn't one though.
Man is this rich.....I get it though---coming from a Texas fan, being in the the Big 12 and all..

I think the Big 10 has 3 Legit FF teams: Illinois, MSU and Wisconsin. I think Iowa's defense keeps them out that conversation. But way to go hyperbole, and throw out that "9 FF teams....."

What does this conversation have to do with Indiana? I mean I get it---even as bad as we are, have been, its a huge hard-on for a program like Texas to beat an Indiana...So I get that.

You are a very good troll, as I said...
 
So Illinois will be in the Final 4...

Because you want them to be..

That is emotional.

Let the season play out. I could change my opinion of them.
I've said that I don't think they will elsewhere. Idgaf about your opinion. I just was curious about your reasoning behind it which.. has not amounted to much.
 
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So Illinois will be in the Final 4...

Because you want them to be..

That is emotional.

Let the season play out. I could change my opinion of them.
Illinois wont be in Final Four...

Because YOU DONT want them to be..

That is emotional...

See how easy that is...

BTW---Take a poll. Lets see how many on here feel Illinois is a FF contender/team.
 
Illinois wont be in Final Four...

Because YOU DONT want them to be..

That is emotional...

See how easy that is...

BTW---Take a poll. Lets see how many on here feel Illinois is a FF contender/team.

Never said I don't want them to be..

Never said they won't be...

Have just said as of right now I wouldn't consider them the strongest Final 4 contender in the B1G

I would have them 4th


This bothers some of you.


I say the same about Texas

I would have them 4th in th Big 12 behind Kansas, WVU and Baylor
 
Never said I don't want them to be..

Never said they won't be...

Have just said as of right now I wouldn't consider them the strongest Final 4 contender in the B1G

I would have them 4th


This bothers some of you.


I say the same about Texas

I would have them 4th in th Big 12 behind Kansas, WVU and Baylor
Texas is a bottom half big ten team. Shaka gets the benefit of the doubt on that.
 
Much more reputable that citing homers on a message board...
KenPom is fukin worthless 3 games into a season...I mean you say Illinois is 4th of the Big 10 in terms of FF caliber, YET, they are ranked higher than Michigan St in KenPom...You say TX is 4th among B12 teams, yet they are ahead of Kansas and WVU in KenPom...

So why is it you are citing KenPom again?
 
You see tonight why I am high on Nova

GTown scored like 18 pointe in the second half

They can be elite on both sides of the floor
When they hit their shots they are as dangerous as any team in the country

We have seen that in the NCAA Tournament when Villanova makes their runs
 
Much more reputable that citing homers on a message board...

Wait for it......

Kenpom 2019/20 rankings.....

Howard’s first year at Michigan: 16
Smart’s 4th year at Texas: 61


Now I know you brought up Michigan to deflect from your god awful take on Illinois, but let’s see you tap dance around you statements that

1. Howard can’t coach
2. Michigan 16, Texas 61 last year
 
Wait for it......

Kenpom 2019/20 rankings.....

Howard’s first year at Michigan: 16
Smart’s 4th year at Texas: 61


Now I know you brought up Michigan to deflect from your god awful take on Illinois, but let’s see you tap dance around you statements that

1. Howard can’t coach
2. Michigan 16, Texas 61 last year

Actually his fifth.
 
Never said I don't want them to be..

Never said they won't be...

Have just said as of right now I wouldn't consider them the strongest Final 4 contender in the B1G

I would have them 4th


This bothers some of you.


I say the same about Texas

I would have them 4th in th Big 12 behind Kansas, WVU and Baylor
"Bothers"? I doubt it bothers anyone...Its just a dumb take(S) by you. Anyone with ANY basketball intelligence can look at Illinois and realize they have Top 5 talent..Ayo, Frazier and Kofi is a strong of trio as you will find in CBB. Add Curbelo and Miller to that mix, and its very strong. Bezhanishvili is solid.....

Outside of Baylor/GU, there simply isn't 10 BETTER teams.
 
"Bothers"? I doubt it bothers anyone...Its just a dumb take(S) by you. Anyone with ANY basketball intelligence can look at Illinois and realize they have Top 5 talent..Ayo, Frazier and Kofi is a strong of trio as you will find in CBB. Add Curbelo and Miller to that mix, and its very strong. Bezhanishvili is solid.....

Outside of Baylor/GU, there simply isn't 10 BETTER teams.

Top 5 talent...
We will see.

Illinois would get run off the floor by Houston right now.

Nothing against Illinois but they aren't at the level of others at the current time

Things could change in the next few months
 
Michigan lost their leading scorer in 2019/20 and Howardstill finished higher in Kenpom that Shaka has ever finished while at Texas.


Glad we agree it’s reputable.
 
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They can be elite on both sides of the floor
When they hit their shots they are as dangerous as any team in the country

We have seen that in the NCAA Tournament when Villanova makes their runs
All 4 of them under Jay...Yes, we have seen(them).

2019----2nd round
2018---Champion
2017---2nd round
2016--Champion
2015---2nd round
2014--2nd round
2013---1st round
2012--NO POSTSEASON
2011--1st round
2010--2nd round
2009-FF
2008-SW 16
2007--1st round
2006--ELITE 8
2005--SW 16
2004-- NIT
2003---NIT
2002---NIT

Only twice in his career has gotten past the 2nd round, in back to back seasons...

But hey, benefit of the doubt, right............??
 
All 4 of them under Jay...Yes, we have seen(them).

2019----2nd round
2018---Champion
2017---2nd round
2016--Champion
2015---2nd round
2014--2nd round
2013---1st round
2012--NO POSTSEASON
2011--1st round
2010--2nd round
2009-FF
2008-SW 16
2007--1st round
2006--ELITE 8
2005--SW 16
2004-- NIT
2003---NIT
2002---NIT

Only twice in his career has gotten past the 2nd round, in back to back seasons...

But hey, benefit of the doubt, right............??

Villanova is a better program than Illinois right now...

Stop being a homer
Villanova is better than any program in the B1G not named Michigan State
 
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