No doubt you are a troll....Pretty good one, too.Because they have proven not to be...
Unlike Michigan State
No doubt you are a troll....Pretty good one, too.Because they have proven not to be...
Unlike Michigan State
2019 FF: 1, 2, 3 and 5
2018 FF: 11 and a 3
2017: 3 and 7
2016: 10 seed
2015: 7 seed
2014: 7 and 8
See a trend, here?
BTW---If you are alluding to the need of being a 1 or a 2 to get to a FF---and obviously that helps---What makes you think teams you placed above Illinois, has a better opportunity of being a 2-seed? Texas----why? Villanova---why? Iowa----Why? Wisconsin---why? I mean sans Wright at Nova, which of the other coaches get your "benefit of the doubt" tag?
No doubt you are a troll....Pretty good one, too.
And? I mean you don't think a coach who has over a 1,000 games, has 13 FF's and 5 natty's could possibly "figure things out"? I mean are you fukin serious? You are ready to write off Coach K and Duke b/cthey are 2-2 in fukin December?Duke is 2-2 and Coach K is questioning why the season is being played
Michigan St is undefeated
I guess you din't see the trend....Loyola of Chicago in 2018 wasn't better than Texas Tech....
Texas Tech played Villanova in the Elite 8
From the Sweet 16 on Villanova played better teams than Loyola of Chicago
UMBC changed that bracket
And? I mean you don't think a coach who has over a 1,000 games, has 13 FF's and 5 natty's could possibly "figure things out"? I mean are you fukin serious? You are ready to write off Coach K and Duke b/cthey are 2-2 in fukin December?
Man , I mean really, dude....Just stop.
I guess you din't see the trend....
Man is this rich.....I get it though---coming from a Texas fan, being in the the Big 12 and all..B1G fans are pretty insecure.
They have 9 Final 4 quality teams according to some of you...
Indiana definitely isn't one though.
This is an inferiority complex plain and simple.
Also, just say it's a gut feeling so you can stop pretending it is well-reasoned and rational. You're shooting from the hip, and that's fine.
You are refuting data that can be verified
We will see in a few weeks. Things could change
Again, you didn't see the trend. C'mon, smart guy...Surely a dude that is smart enough to know what you know, can see this...Final 4 isn't the best 4 teams in the country.
We already know that. That is why seeding is important
Other guesses : Gil ****ed his sister and this is the result.
verified data like “benefit of the doubt”
Doubt has already been established with Duke from their start...
Hasn't been established with Michigan St and Izzo.
I've said that I don't think they will elsewhere. Idgaf about your opinion. I just was curious about your reasoning behind it which.. has not amounted to much.So Illinois will be in the Final 4...
Because you want them to be..
That is emotional.
Let the season play out. I could change my opinion of them.
Like Juwan Howard can't coach...
Why the hell did he let Jalen Wilson get out of his LOI
Again, you didn't see the trend. C'mon, smart guy...Surely a dude that is smart enough to know what you know, can see this...
Illinois wont be in Final Four...So Illinois will be in the Final 4...
Because you want them to be..
That is emotional.
Let the season play out. I could change my opinion of them.
Yep...When he threw the IU did into our conversation, I was like----"Yeah, he knows.... 🤣^ when you know you lost he argument
Illinois wont be in Final Four...
Because YOU DONT want them to be..
That is emotional...
See how easy that is...
BTW---Take a poll. Lets see how many on here feel Illinois is a FF contender/team.
Texas is a bottom half big ten team. Shaka gets the benefit of the doubt on that.Never said I don't want them to be..
Never said they won't be...
Have just said as of right now I wouldn't consider them the strongest Final 4 contender in the B1G
I would have them 4th
This bothers some of you.
I say the same about Texas
I would have them 4th in th Big 12 behind Kansas, WVU and Baylor
Texas is a bottom half big ten team. Shaka gets the benefit of the doubt on that.
B1G needs Illinois to be legit and will hang onto this
Pretty funny
But according to KenPom they would be on the bottom half of the Big 12
If that is your best team says a lot about your conference
why do you keep citing kenpom?
Because it always values Texas highly early in the season. That is until Shaka shits the bedwhy do you keep citing kenpom?
KenPom is fukin worthless 3 games into a season...I mean you say Illinois is 4th of the Big 10 in terms of FF caliber, YET, they are ranked higher than Michigan St in KenPom...You say TX is 4th among B12 teams, yet they are ahead of Kansas and WVU in KenPom...Much more reputable that citing homers on a message board...
The Big Ten is unathletic.Possibly.
B1G as a whole is very unathletic so I think Texas could do well in the conference playing teams like Purdue
Much more reputable that citing homers on a message board...
Wait for it......
Kenpom 2019/20 rankings.....
Howard’s first year at Michigan: 16
Smart’s 4th year at Texas: 61
Now I know you brought up Michigan to deflect from your god awful take on Illinois, but let’s see you tap dance around you statements that
1. Howard can’t coach
2. Michigan 16, Texas 61 last year
"Bothers"? I doubt it bothers anyone...Its just a dumb take(S) by you. Anyone with ANY basketball intelligence can look at Illinois and realize they have Top 5 talent..Ayo, Frazier and Kofi is a strong of trio as you will find in CBB. Add Curbelo and Miller to that mix, and its very strong. Bezhanishvili is solid.....Never said I don't want them to be..
Never said they won't be...
Have just said as of right now I wouldn't consider them the strongest Final 4 contender in the B1G
I would have them 4th
This bothers some of you.
I say the same about Texas
I would have them 4th in th Big 12 behind Kansas, WVU and Baylor
"Bothers"? I doubt it bothers anyone...Its just a dumb take(S) by you. Anyone with ANY basketball intelligence can look at Illinois and realize they have Top 5 talent..Ayo, Frazier and Kofi is a strong of trio as you will find in CBB. Add Curbelo and Miller to that mix, and its very strong. Bezhanishvili is solid.....
Outside of Baylor/GU, there simply isn't 10 BETTER teams.
All 4 of them under Jay...Yes, we have seen(them).They can be elite on both sides of the floor
When they hit their shots they are as dangerous as any team in the country
We have seen that in the NCAA Tournament when Villanova makes their runs
Michigan lost their leading scorer in 2019/20 and Howardstill finished higher in Kenpom that Shaka has ever finished while at Texas.
Glad we agree it’s reputable.
All 4 of them under Jay...Yes, we have seen(them).
2019----2nd round
2018---Champion
2017---2nd round
2016--Champion
2015---2nd round
2014--2nd round
2013---1st round
2012--NO POSTSEASON
2011--1st round
2010--2nd round
2009-FF
2008-SW 16
2007--1st round
2006--ELITE 8
2005--SW 16
2004-- NIT
2003---NIT
2002---NIT
Only twice in his career has gotten past the 2nd round, in back to back seasons...
But hey, benefit of the doubt, right............??
Season was cut short as well.
But most of that I agree with