as defending champ I’ll allow @dukedevilz to answer that.
7th Annual College Basketball Draft
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I like these two picks better than your 7th & 8th rounders, tbh.
Good upside, at least. Round 12 is great round to take an unknown with upside.
I'll take Bruce Thornton, Ohio State
@IUfanBorden has the last pick of the draft.
Since I'm a Homer, I've been following this thread to see rhe Arkansas picks.
Surprised to see Ellis and Mark not picked until the FA portion.
These two are gonna be stat getters.
Surprised to see Ellis and Mark not picked until the FA portion.
These two are gonna be stat getters.
My issue with Arkansas is, there aren't clear-cut standouts. Brazile looks like the closest thing. After that, who's going to put up all-conference type numbers?
El Ellis, Tramon Mark, Khaliff Battle, and Devo Davis are all capable (maybe Davenport, too?). I figure the guards will all have their nights, but there may not be a consistent go-to scorer (i.e. 15+ ppg). Balanced scoring won't lead to all-conference awards, and if it's shaky that someone may miss out on all-conference completely, you might just want to take a sure-thing in a mid-major star
Those guards are capable of putting up big numbers, yes. But, where there's a lot of risk involved in the value of picks, you want to draft someone with a high floor and high upside, if possible. Your guards have reasonably high ceilings, but their floors are kind of modest.
We did it! And here are the final draft results. I'll post everyone's roster soon-ish. If not tonight, sometime tomorrow.
Draft Results
1st Round
1. Zach Edey, Purdue
2. Kyle Filipowski, Duke
3. Hunter Dickinson, Kansas
4. Armando Bacot, North Carolina
5. Tyler Kolek, Marquette
6. Ryan Kalkbrenner, Creighton
7. Max Abmas, Texas
8. Donovan Clingan, UConn
9. Isaiah Collier, USC
10. Wade Taylor, Texas A&M
11. Boo Buie, Northwestern
2nd Round
12. Oumar Ballo, Arizona
13. Terrence Shannon, Illinois
14. Joel Soriano, St. John's
15. Tylor Perry, Kansas State
16. Trey Alexander, Creighton
17. Tyrese Proctor, Duke
18. Johnell Davis, Florida Atlantic
19. Nijel Pack, Miami
20. Judah Mintz, Syracuse
21. Justin Moore, Villanova
22. DaRon Holmes, Dayton
3rd Round
23. Graham Ike, Gonzaga
24. Aidan Mahaney, Saint Mary's
25. Johni Broome, Auburn
26. Cliff Omoruyi, Rutgers
27. Justin Edwards, Kentucky
28. Boogie Ellis, USC
29. LJ Cryer, Houston
30. Bryce Hopkins, Providence
31. Reece Beekman, Virginia
32. Norchad Omier, Miami
33. Santiago Vescovi, Tennessee
4th Round
34. Ja'Kobe Walter, Baylor
35. Adem Bona, UCLA
36. Tyson Degenhart, Boise State
37. Trevon Brazile, Arkansas
38. Jahmir Young, Maryland
39. Tyson Walker, Michigan State
40. RJ Davis, North Carolina
41. N'Faly Dante, Oregon
42. Ryan Nembhard, Gonzaga
43. AJ Hoggard, Michigan State
44. Josh Cohen, UMass
5th Round
45. Mackenzie Mgbako, Indiana
46. Dajuan Harris, Kansas
47. PJ Hall, Clemson
48. Caleb Love, Arizona
49. Jamal Shead, Houston
50. Isaiah Stevens, Colorado State
51. Elliot Cadeau, North Carolina
52. DJ Wagner, Kentucky
53. Lamont Butler, San Diego State
54. Cody Williams, Colorado
55. Stephon Castle, UConn
6th Round
56. Aden Holloway, Auburn
57. Eric Dixon, Villanova
58. Pop Isaacs, Texas Tech
59. Jamal Mashburn, New Mexico
60. Tucker DeVries, Drake
61. Drew Pember, UNC Asheville
62. Mitchell Saxen, Saint Mary's
63. Tristan da Silva, Colorado
64. Jahvon Quinerly, Memphis
65. Jaelen House, New Mexico
66. Dillon Jones, Weber State
7th Round
67. Ajay Mitchell, UC Santa Barbara
68. Riley Kugel, Florida
69. Ace Baldwin, Penn State
70. Tyrese Hunter, Texas
71. Mark Sears, Alabama
72. Alijah Martin, Florida Atlantic
73. Oso Ighodaro, Marquette
74. Anton Watson, Gonzaga
75. Jordan Brown, Memphis
76. Kevin McCullar, Kansas
77. Jackson Shelstad, Oregon
8th Round
78. Trey Green, Xavier
79. RayJ Dennis, Baylor
80. Fletcher Loyer, Purdue
81. Jordan Dingle, St. John's
82. Zeke Mayo, South Dakota State
83. Emanuel Miller, TCU
84. Eric Gaines, UAB
85. Arthur Kaluma, Kansas State
86. Jaylen Forbes, Tulane
87. Enrique Freeman, Akron
88. Xavier Johnson, Indiana
9th Round
89. Bent Leuchten, UC Irvine
90. Baylor Scheierman, Creighton
91. Jesse Edwards, West Virginia
92. Kerr Kriisa, West Virginia
93. Wooga Poplar, Miami
94. Kam Jones, Marquette
95. Branden Carlson, Utah
96. Fardaws Aimaq, California
97. Blake Hinson, Pittsburgh
98. Jameer Nelson, TCU
99. Milos Uzan, Oklahoma
10th Round
100. Braden Smith, Purdue
101. Grant Nelson, Alabama
102. Tanner Holden, Wright State
103. Aaron Estrada, Alabama
104. Amari Williams, Drexel
105. Jeremy Roach, Duke
106. Jamir Watkins, Florida State
107. Bryce Thompson, Oklahoma State
108. JJ Starling, Syracuse
109. Dalton Knect, Tennessee
110. Kel'el Ware, Indiana
11th Round
111. Keion Brooks, Washington
112. Jalen Bridges, Baylor
113. Kadary Richmond, Seton Hall
114. Sean Pedulla, Virginia Tech
115. KJ Simpson, Colorado
116. Darrion Trammell, San Diego State
117. Trey Calvin, Wright State
118. Daimion Collins, LSU
119. Kylan Boswell, Arizona
120. Antonio Reeves, Kentucky
121. Tramon Mark, Arkansas
12th Round
122. Hunter Sallis, Wake Forest
123. El Ellis, Arkansas
124. Vlad Goldin, Florida Atlantic
125. Aaron Bradshaw, Kentucky
126. Zakai Zeigler, Tennessee
127. Aday Mara, UCLA
128. Dae Dae Grant, Duquense
129. Max Rice, Boise State
130. Omaha Biliew, Iowa State
131. Bruce Thornton, Ohio State
132. Tyrin Lawrence, Vanderbilt
Draft Results
1st Round
1. Zach Edey, Purdue
2. Kyle Filipowski, Duke
3. Hunter Dickinson, Kansas
4. Armando Bacot, North Carolina
5. Tyler Kolek, Marquette
6. Ryan Kalkbrenner, Creighton
7. Max Abmas, Texas
8. Donovan Clingan, UConn
9. Isaiah Collier, USC
10. Wade Taylor, Texas A&M
11. Boo Buie, Northwestern
2nd Round
12. Oumar Ballo, Arizona
13. Terrence Shannon, Illinois
14. Joel Soriano, St. John's
15. Tylor Perry, Kansas State
16. Trey Alexander, Creighton
17. Tyrese Proctor, Duke
18. Johnell Davis, Florida Atlantic
19. Nijel Pack, Miami
20. Judah Mintz, Syracuse
21. Justin Moore, Villanova
22. DaRon Holmes, Dayton
3rd Round
23. Graham Ike, Gonzaga
24. Aidan Mahaney, Saint Mary's
25. Johni Broome, Auburn
26. Cliff Omoruyi, Rutgers
27. Justin Edwards, Kentucky
28. Boogie Ellis, USC
29. LJ Cryer, Houston
30. Bryce Hopkins, Providence
31. Reece Beekman, Virginia
32. Norchad Omier, Miami
33. Santiago Vescovi, Tennessee
4th Round
34. Ja'Kobe Walter, Baylor
35. Adem Bona, UCLA
36. Tyson Degenhart, Boise State
37. Trevon Brazile, Arkansas
38. Jahmir Young, Maryland
39. Tyson Walker, Michigan State
40. RJ Davis, North Carolina
41. N'Faly Dante, Oregon
42. Ryan Nembhard, Gonzaga
43. AJ Hoggard, Michigan State
44. Josh Cohen, UMass
5th Round
45. Mackenzie Mgbako, Indiana
46. Dajuan Harris, Kansas
47. PJ Hall, Clemson
48. Caleb Love, Arizona
49. Jamal Shead, Houston
50. Isaiah Stevens, Colorado State
51. Elliot Cadeau, North Carolina
52. DJ Wagner, Kentucky
53. Lamont Butler, San Diego State
54. Cody Williams, Colorado
55. Stephon Castle, UConn
6th Round
56. Aden Holloway, Auburn
57. Eric Dixon, Villanova
58. Pop Isaacs, Texas Tech
59. Jamal Mashburn, New Mexico
60. Tucker DeVries, Drake
61. Drew Pember, UNC Asheville
62. Mitchell Saxen, Saint Mary's
63. Tristan da Silva, Colorado
64. Jahvon Quinerly, Memphis
65. Jaelen House, New Mexico
66. Dillon Jones, Weber State
7th Round
67. Ajay Mitchell, UC Santa Barbara
68. Riley Kugel, Florida
69. Ace Baldwin, Penn State
70. Tyrese Hunter, Texas
71. Mark Sears, Alabama
72. Alijah Martin, Florida Atlantic
73. Oso Ighodaro, Marquette
74. Anton Watson, Gonzaga
75. Jordan Brown, Memphis
76. Kevin McCullar, Kansas
77. Jackson Shelstad, Oregon
8th Round
78. Trey Green, Xavier
79. RayJ Dennis, Baylor
80. Fletcher Loyer, Purdue
81. Jordan Dingle, St. John's
82. Zeke Mayo, South Dakota State
83. Emanuel Miller, TCU
84. Eric Gaines, UAB
85. Arthur Kaluma, Kansas State
86. Jaylen Forbes, Tulane
87. Enrique Freeman, Akron
88. Xavier Johnson, Indiana
9th Round
89. Bent Leuchten, UC Irvine
90. Baylor Scheierman, Creighton
91. Jesse Edwards, West Virginia
92. Kerr Kriisa, West Virginia
93. Wooga Poplar, Miami
94. Kam Jones, Marquette
95. Branden Carlson, Utah
96. Fardaws Aimaq, California
97. Blake Hinson, Pittsburgh
98. Jameer Nelson, TCU
99. Milos Uzan, Oklahoma
10th Round
100. Braden Smith, Purdue
101. Grant Nelson, Alabama
102. Tanner Holden, Wright State
103. Aaron Estrada, Alabama
104. Amari Williams, Drexel
105. Jeremy Roach, Duke
106. Jamir Watkins, Florida State
107. Bryce Thompson, Oklahoma State
108. JJ Starling, Syracuse
109. Dalton Knect, Tennessee
110. Kel'el Ware, Indiana
11th Round
111. Keion Brooks, Washington
112. Jalen Bridges, Baylor
113. Kadary Richmond, Seton Hall
114. Sean Pedulla, Virginia Tech
115. KJ Simpson, Colorado
116. Darrion Trammell, San Diego State
117. Trey Calvin, Wright State
118. Daimion Collins, LSU
119. Kylan Boswell, Arizona
120. Antonio Reeves, Kentucky
121. Tramon Mark, Arkansas
12th Round
122. Hunter Sallis, Wake Forest
123. El Ellis, Arkansas
124. Vlad Goldin, Florida Atlantic
125. Aaron Bradshaw, Kentucky
126. Zakai Zeigler, Tennessee
127. Aday Mara, UCLA
128. Dae Dae Grant, Duquense
129. Max Rice, Boise State
130. Omaha Biliew, Iowa State
131. Bruce Thornton, Ohio State
132. Tyrin Lawrence, Vanderbilt
I did pretty well last year. I just don’t think I can match that this year.
I love your team , but only because I take an unhealthy amount of pleasure from your failures.
My top 12 guys that were not drafted:
1) Dylan Disu - Texas - Came on strong late and was B12 tourney MVP. I almost pulled the trigger a couple of times but the rest of his team is formidable too and I'm not sure how much he'll be a focal point of the offense
2) J'Wan Roberts - Houston - Dude averaged 10 and 8 and collected 6.1 win shares for a Houston team that needs to fill a void from losing their top 3 scorers
3) Julian Reese - Maryland - I wanted to draft this guy. He's flashed All Big Ten potential but hasn't had the consistency. If he get there this year, we'll all regret it
4) Tristen Newton - UConn - Averaged 10, 5 and 5 and had 4.9 win shares last year. He will outperform a lot of the guys we drafted
5) Berke Buyuktuncel - UCLA - If he was cleared by the NCAA, I would likely have drafted him. He's got star potential on a roster without a clear alpha IMO
6) Steven Ashworth - Creighton - I'm fascinated to see how he blends with Creighton's other great players. He could put up really good numbers
7) Coleman Hawkins - Illinois - Maybe 2nd team All Big Ten. I just couldn't draft him because I can't stand him and he doesn't put up big counting stats
8) Tyler Burton - Nova - Averaged 19 and 7 for Richmond last year. Just not sure how much of an alpha he'll be on a team that returns Justin Moore, Eric Dixon and Mark Armstrong
9) Tyler Wahl - Wisconsin - Some will say that Wisky will go as Hepburn and Crowl go but Wahl is the key. When he was hurt last year, they struggled. If he is healthy, he's got 2nd team All Big Ten upside
T10) Khalif Battle and Devo Davis - Arkansas - @dukedevilz alluded to this earlier when talking about Arkansas. It's just hard to tell who's going to emerge between these guys, Brazile and Tramon Mark. If Battle or Davis do, they'll be a great pick. If not, we were wise not to draft them.
12) Josiah-Jordan James - Tennessee - Part of the three headed monster returning to Tennessee and the only one that's completely healthy right now.
1) Dylan Disu - Texas - Came on strong late and was B12 tourney MVP. I almost pulled the trigger a couple of times but the rest of his team is formidable too and I'm not sure how much he'll be a focal point of the offense
2) J'Wan Roberts - Houston - Dude averaged 10 and 8 and collected 6.1 win shares for a Houston team that needs to fill a void from losing their top 3 scorers
3) Julian Reese - Maryland - I wanted to draft this guy. He's flashed All Big Ten potential but hasn't had the consistency. If he get there this year, we'll all regret it
4) Tristen Newton - UConn - Averaged 10, 5 and 5 and had 4.9 win shares last year. He will outperform a lot of the guys we drafted
5) Berke Buyuktuncel - UCLA - If he was cleared by the NCAA, I would likely have drafted him. He's got star potential on a roster without a clear alpha IMO
6) Steven Ashworth - Creighton - I'm fascinated to see how he blends with Creighton's other great players. He could put up really good numbers
7) Coleman Hawkins - Illinois - Maybe 2nd team All Big Ten. I just couldn't draft him because I can't stand him and he doesn't put up big counting stats
8) Tyler Burton - Nova - Averaged 19 and 7 for Richmond last year. Just not sure how much of an alpha he'll be on a team that returns Justin Moore, Eric Dixon and Mark Armstrong
9) Tyler Wahl - Wisconsin - Some will say that Wisky will go as Hepburn and Crowl go but Wahl is the key. When he was hurt last year, they struggled. If he is healthy, he's got 2nd team All Big Ten upside
T10) Khalif Battle and Devo Davis - Arkansas - @dukedevilz alluded to this earlier when talking about Arkansas. It's just hard to tell who's going to emerge between these guys, Brazile and Tramon Mark. If Battle or Davis do, they'll be a great pick. If not, we were wise not to draft them.
12) Josiah-Jordan James - Tennessee - Part of the three headed monster returning to Tennessee and the only one that's completely healthy right now.
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Pretty similar to mine, actually. Here's my 12-man JV roster:
Tyler Burton, Villanova
Tristen Newton, UConn
J'Wan Roberts, Houston
Tamin Lipsey, Iowa State
Olivier Nkamhoua, Michigan
Coleman Hawkins, Illinois
AJ Storr, Wisconsin
Berke Buyuktuncel, UCLA
Devo Davis, Arkansas
Rayshon Harrison, Grand Canyon
Tristan Enaruna, Cleveland State
Demarcus Sharp, Northwestern State
Also, curious to see how Alex Karaban does. His shooting splits last season were top-notch. Just needs a higher usage rate. Feel like AJ Storr has a higher ceiling than anyone else on Wisconsin. That should be a top 25 team.
Last year, my JV team took down 3 teams (Jimbo, lurker, GE Nole). Takes a little bit of luck to pull that off (i.e. taking Keyonate Johnson). My goal, like last year, is to beat one team.
Here are my best valued picks per round, starting with Round 4. I'm not going to include myself in here. I think the first 3 rounds are pretty solid across the board.
Best Valued Picks
4th Round:
Tyson Walker, Michigan State (boilerzz)
5th Round
PJ Hall, Clemson (WojoRising)
Caleb Love, Arizona (duckboy33)
6th Round
Tucker DeVries, Drake (FaithPlusOne)
Drew Pember, UNC Asheville (boilerzz)
7th Round
Ajay Mitchell, UC Santa Barbara (IUfanBorden)
Jordan Brown, Memphis (Necessary Roughness)
8th Round
Eric Gaines, UAB (GE Nole)
9th Round
Kam Jones, Marquette (boilerzz)
Branden Carlson, Utah (FaithPlusOne)
10th Round
Grant Nelson, Alabama (ThePhog08)
Aaron Estrada, Alabama (lurkeraspect84)
-One of the Bama guys will be super valuable.
11th Round
KJ Simpson, Colorado (GE Nole)
Tramon Mark, Arkansas (WeAreDePaul)
12th Round
Max Rice, Boise State (duckboy33)
Best Valued Picks
4th Round:
Tyson Walker, Michigan State (boilerzz)
5th Round
PJ Hall, Clemson (WojoRising)
Caleb Love, Arizona (duckboy33)
6th Round
Tucker DeVries, Drake (FaithPlusOne)
Drew Pember, UNC Asheville (boilerzz)
7th Round
Ajay Mitchell, UC Santa Barbara (IUfanBorden)
Jordan Brown, Memphis (Necessary Roughness)
8th Round
Eric Gaines, UAB (GE Nole)
9th Round
Kam Jones, Marquette (boilerzz)
Branden Carlson, Utah (FaithPlusOne)
10th Round
Grant Nelson, Alabama (ThePhog08)
Aaron Estrada, Alabama (lurkeraspect84)
-One of the Bama guys will be super valuable.
11th Round
KJ Simpson, Colorado (GE Nole)
Tramon Mark, Arkansas (WeAreDePaul)
12th Round
Max Rice, Boise State (duckboy33)
I have, like, 9 guys with ties to a Syracuse program that’s won 4 games over the last decade.
Judah Mintz, Jesse Edwards, JJ Starling, and Kadary Richmond. lol that's crazy.
I'm not sure what to make of Roach. He averaged 16 ppg during Duke's last 10 games last year; he was way more productive than Proctor, who averaged around 11 ppg during the same stretch. But at the same time, Proctor's usage is sure to go up. And McCain and Foster are going to want a fair amount of touches, too... And then there's always a chance that Roach makes the All-Tournament team or All-Region team.
Considering he was taken in Round 10 that's not bad value at all.
You know I have receipts, right? I was correct in saying it was a bad value. The issue was taking Roach in Round 5.
4.2 total points would have been the least valuable player on my roster. Roach in round 10 or so is fine. Last year, I felt like his ceiling was 3rd Team All-Conference. That's really poor value for Round 5.
Thankfully, no team can embarrass itself as badly as @WeAreDePaul embarrassed himself with this exchange. We all have a little breathing room now.You know I have receipts, right? I was correct in saying it was a bad value. The issue was taking Roach in Round 5.
4.2 total points would have been the least valuable player on my roster. Roach in round 10 or so is fine. Last year, I felt like his ceiling was 3rd Team All-Conference. That's really poor value for Round 5.
Apology accepted.You know I have receipts, right? I was correct in saying it was a bad value. The issue was taking Roach in Round 5.
4.2 total points would have been the least valuable player on my roster. Roach in round 10 or so is fine. Last year, I felt like his ceiling was 3rd Team All-Conference. That's really poor value for Round 5.
I think Dukedevils has the best roster, followed by boilerzz, followed by me
I think I have a lower ceiling than most but maybe a higher floor than some.
I don’t really know what to think about my team. I’ll let you know later after I see how they start the year.
I don’t really know what to think about my team. I’ll let you know later after I see how they start the year.
I like my roster. I don't think I have as much All-American potential as I've had the last two years, but there's still a few guys who are capable. I like how I closed the draft: Baylor Scheierman, Dalton Knecht, Jalen Bridges, Bruce Thornton... feel like there's a great chance one of those guys earns 1st Team All-Conference.
It takes a bit of skill to do this well, projecting player development and strategizing the value of players in each round. But, we can't underestimate how much lucks also plays a factor. Not a single pundit was talking about Tyler Kolek as a potential All-American last year. There's always a few guys that seemingly come from nowhere to have a monster year. Unexpected results are always going to be a major element in this draft.
That's a fair assessment, IMO. 4 mid-majors on your roster will almost always afford you a higher floor. You should have a great shot at ending on the podium.
And 2 guys in Wade Taylor and Terrence Shannon who are both serious contenders for All-American honors.
Seems like just about every year the champion of this league has at least 2 All-Americans.
You have some nice pieces. But, you probably should have drafted 2-3 more Indiana guys.
I got lazy with the XJ and Ware picks. But I really like Mgbako.
Keion Brooks in 11th round is a absolute steal , definite all conference 1rst team
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