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They got #1 and #2 right.
This isn’t a top 25 tournament coaches of the last 25 years list.Bill Self at Kansas (03 - Present)
3 Final Fours, 1 title
Cal at Kentucky (09 - Present)
4 Final Fours, 1 title
Facts, ya know
Doesn't have to be. Cal has been better at Kentucky than Self has at Kansas with less years to work with.This isn’t a top 25 tournament coaches of the last 25 years list.
Haha. No he hasn’t. You’re narrowing down their entire resumes to 2 things. Might as well just come out and say UCLA has been better than Kentucky all time in less seasons.Doesn't have to be. Cal has been better at Kentucky than Self has at Kansas with less years to work with.
I'll wait for you conference titles argumentHaha. No he hasn’t. You’re narrowing down their entire resumes to 2 things. Might as well just come out and say UCLA has been better than Kentucky all time in less seasons.
The lack of titles Self produced from Embiid, Robinson, and other elite bigs while Cal got one out of a lesser collegiate big in AD is certainly glaring, but overall it’s been close to even for their tenures.Doesn't have to be. Cal has been better at Kentucky than Self has at Kansas with less years to work with.
That’s only 1 factor. How about NCAA seedings, total wins, record against top 10 teams, weeks ranked, average tournament seed and all of that other stuff? The season is a lot longer than 4 games in March. You have to factor all of that in.I'll wait for you conference titles argument
I agree it’s close. I think the deciding factor is post season success. Self has probably been the better regular season coachThe lack of titles Self produced from Embiid, Robinson, and other elite bigs while Cal got one out of a lesser collegiate big in AD is certainly glaring, but overall it’s been close to even for their tenures.
Penny doesn't merit any consideration at all.
Three obvious omissions are Billy Donovan (Florida), Thad Matta (Ohio State), and John Beilein (Michigan).
I think Ben Howland (UCLA) and Brad Stevens (Butler) should also be in the running.
The lack of titles Self produced from Embiid, Robinson, and other elite bigs while Cal got one out of a lesser collegiate big in AD is certainly glaring, but overall it’s been close to even for their tenures.
For some reasons, they are limiting it to active coaches.Penny doesn't merit any consideration at all.
Three obvious omissions are Billy Donovan (Florida), Thad Matta (Ohio State), and John Beilein (Michigan).
I think Ben Howland (UCLA) and Brad Stevens (Butler) should also be in the running.
For some reasons, they are limiting it to active coaches.
I would trade Mack for Pearl in a heartbeat.Pearl to low on the list.
Meh, I wouldn’t.I would trade Mack for Pearl in a heartbeat.
Doesn't have to be. Cal has been better at Kentucky than Self has at Kansas with less years to work with.
We started Jarrod Polson one time. That’s pretty close right?Who’s had better talent? How many Brady Morningstar’s and Tyrell Reed’s has Kentucky started?
We started Jarrod Polson one time. That’s pretty close right?
Cal also doesn’t lose to scrub ass teams in March. I would say that’s pretty important.Christian Moody, Conor Teahen ,and Landen Lucas. If Cal doesn’t have elite talent he’s going to struggle.
Don’t forgot Kentucky Cal’s NIT run with Kentucky either
Cal also doesn’t lose to scrub ass teams in March. I would say that’s pretty important.
Touche. He did lose to Indiana in 2016.hey, wait a minute.....
Dafuq is Penny doing on that list with his 43-24 mid-major record in 2 years?
Christian Moody, Conor Teahen ,and Landen Lucas. If Cal doesn’t have elite talent he’s going to struggle.
Don’t forgot Kentucky Cal’s NIT run with Kentucky either
Cal’s good for about 10 losses (which equates to about 15 in a quality league) if he doesn’t have one of the greatest rosters of all time. And he can’t compile those teams anymore.
Poor hire.
Penny doesn't merit any consideration at all.
Three obvious omissions are Billy Donovan (Florida), Thad Matta (Ohio State), and John Beilein (Michigan).
I think Ben Howland (UCLA) and Brad Stevens (Butler) should also be in the running.
If they're going to limit it to active coaches, that's fine. But why include active coaches that are being recognized for a position that they no longer hold? Fred Hoiberg, Shaka Smart, Jamie Dixon, and Rick Pitino are all included. If those coaching hires deserve consideration, then so do the Billy Donovans and Thad Mattas of the world.