Not bad being number 1 in a rebuilding year lol.
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Not bad being number 1 in a rebuilding year lol.
I was bullish on this team (had us on like the 5 seed line), would've never guessed something like this would happen.Not bad being number 1 in a rebuilding year lol.
Hawkeye hole* took a massive Badger boner last night.
Freshman guards are THE reason. Biggest question mark for Purdue coming into the year. Can those guys sustain that? Purdue is really good, not doubting that. But your success so far has been due to their production. Can you rely on them for 18 more B10 games----BTT and then NCAAT?I was bullish on this team (had us on like the 5 seed line), would've never guessed something like this would happen.
Some losses are coming, but man what a start.
They'll hit a wall at some point. They all do. Just depends on how quickly they get thru it.Freshman guards are THE reason. Biggest question mark for Purdue coming into the year. Can those guys sustain that? Purdue is really good, not doubting that. But your success so far has been due to their production. Can you rely on them for 18 more B10 games----BTT and then NCAAT?
Personally, I wouldn't bet against it-----but I also wouldn't bet for it.
As @jwardelt said, they’ll hit a wall at some point I’m sure as most freshmen go through at some point. But what’s nice about Smith & Loyer is that they’re productive at more than one facet of the game.Freshman guards are THE reason. Biggest question mark for Purdue coming into the year. Can those guys sustain that? Purdue is really good, not doubting that. But your success so far has been due to their production. Can you rely on them for 18 more B10 games----BTT and then NCAAT?
Personally, I wouldn't bet against it-----but I also wouldn't bet for it.
Both freshmen have been good but they haven’t even been shooting it that well yet. Loyer and Smith are much better shooters than the stats suggest. They’re only going to get more comfortable. I look forward to their improvement.Freshman guards are THE reason. Biggest question mark for Purdue coming into the year. Can those guys sustain that? Purdue is really good, not doubting that. But your success so far has been due to their production. Can you rely on them for 18 more B10 games----BTT and then NCAAT?
Personally, I wouldn't bet against it-----but I also wouldn't bet for it.
I don't underestimate Newman/Furst or TK----BUT, all but one is a guard. I think Purdue's ceiling is based on Loyer/Smith-----and thats a lot to ask for ONE freshman----much less two.As @jwardelt said, they’ll hit a wall at some point I’m sure as most freshmen go through at some point. But what’s nice about Smith & Loyer is that they’re productive at more than one facet of the game.
Both have shown the ability to score at all 3 levels, handle the ball, good passers, Smith especially a good rebounder for the position, good from the foul line, etc. So even when their shots scuffle at some point, can still be productive. Not one trick ponies that have to develop the rest of their game like a lot of freshmen are when they come in.
Think people also underestimated the depth purdue has. Newman/Furst/Kaufman really nice bench pieces that would be starting for a lot of teams out there.
As would I....Bth are gonna be very, very good 4 year dudes.Both freshmen have been good but they haven’t even been shooting it that well yet. Loyer and Smith are much better shooters than the stats suggest. They’re only going to get more comfortable. I look forward to their improvement.
It’s crazy how solid they’ve been. Obviously some ups and downs but I don’t think even the most homer Purdue fans could’ve expected them to be our 2nd and 3rd leading scorers so far.Both freshmen have been good but they haven’t even been shooting it that well yet. Loyer and Smith are much better shooters than the stats suggest. They’re only going to get more comfortable. I look forward to their improvement.
Thanks for letting Essegian escape Indiana. He’s been a breath of fresh air this year. Off to a great start for us.As @jwardelt said, they’ll hit a wall at some point I’m sure as most freshmen go through at some point. But what’s nice about Smith & Loyer is that they’re productive at more than one facet of the game.
Both have shown the ability to score at all 3 levels, handle the ball, good passers, Smith especially a good rebounder for the position, good from the foul line, etc. So even when their shots scuffle at some point, can still be productive. Not one trick ponies that have to develop the rest of their game like a lot of freshmen are when they come in.
Think people also underestimated the depth purdue has. Newman/Furst/Kaufman really nice bench pieces that would be starting for a lot of teams out there.
If I remember right the reporting was he was exactly the type of player Painter would offer most years but just didn’t have the scholarship for him with Loyer already committed. But a lot people loved his game.Thanks for letting Essegian escape Indiana. He’s been a breath of fresh air this year. Off to a great start for us.
Yea he’s not just a shooter. Seems to know what he’s doing out there. I’d take 2 more like him. Instead of playing ****ing former walk-ons.If I remember right the reporting was he was exactly the type of player Painter would offer most years but just didn’t have the scholarship for him with Loyer already committed. But a lot people loved his game.
I guess Purdue guys can't win every award every week. Congrats Dug!
He’s a great defensive coach. Destined to be a head coach. Hire a good OC and he should be fine.And Purdue hires Ryan Walters.
I never expected Purdue to get some of the guys that were rumored (Deboer, Monken, Klieman, Clawson), and I don't know a ton about Walters, but my initial reaction is that this is not a great choice. Would rather have an offensive guy with head coaching experience at a lower level.
Good to hear.He’s a great defensive coach. Destined to be a head coach. Hire a good OC and he should be fine.
Rumors that he might bring a couple of guys from our staff from the D side.Good to hear.
Just don't love relying on a guy that'll need a solid staff, as I don't think Purdue is great at attracting or retaining that stuff.
Sometimes those are the best hires.And Purdue hires Ryan Walters.
I never expected Purdue to get some of the guys that were rumored (Deboer, Monken, Klieman, Clawson), and I don't know a ton about Walters, but my initial reaction is that this is not a great choice. Would rather have an offensive guy with head coaching experience at a lower level.
Makes sense.Rumors that he might bring a couple of guys from our staff from the D side.
Yep. People complained when Purdue hired Joe Tiller and he turned out okay. People were ecstatic when Purdue hired Fred Akers and he was dogshit.Sometimes those are the best hires.
the lower level head coaches? that's what I was advocating for. not splashy, but they know how to win with less and are normally hungry.Sometimes those are the best hires.
Every subset of background is littered with successes and failures. For every Jeff Brohm, you have a Darrel Hazzel. He was supposed to be able to win with less and be hungry too.the lower level head coaches? that's what I was advocating for. not splashy, but they know how to win with less and are normally hungry.
Same, I was telling my (coincidentally IU grad 😉) subordinate how I thought I was being bullish by thinking we'd be around 5th in conference and make the tournament, and if you told me then that we'd be ranked #1 at some point during the season I never would have believed it.I was bullish on this team (had us on like the 5 seed line), would've never guessed something like this would happen.
Some losses are coming, but man what a start.
Start looking at our D recruits and see which ones you’d like. Apparently a couple might follow him.Makes sense.
Really needs to go get a guy that's known for passing game and QB development now imo. Not sure that's easy to do.
Absolutely.Every subset of background is littered with successes and failures. For every Jeff Brohm, you have a Darrel Hazzel. He was supposed to be able to win with less and be hungry too.
Disagree, think we need more from Morton (scoring-wise) as well as Newman and Jenkins Jr. If those 3 can't step up and produce consistently, then yeah Purdue could be in some trouble relying on 2 freshmen. That said, Loyer is fearless and can score in every facet offensively.I don't underestimate Newman/Furst or TK----BUT, all but one is a guard. I think Purdue's ceiling is based on Loyer/Smith-----and thats a lot to ask for ONE freshman----much less two.
They're certainly going to "hit that wall---All freshman do. But they're also going to get better and better.
I have learned to never bet against Painter. He has damn near perfected his system, and his teams more often than not, are gonna compete, be solid, etc....I'm surprised they are this good, though. But then again, large part of that is due to Smith/Loyer .
Good b/c Brohm is gonna poach some of ours.Start looking at our D recruits and see which ones you’d like. Apparently a couple might follow him.
We definitely need those 3 to up their 3 pt percentage.Disagree, think we need more from Morton (scoring-wise) as well as Newman and Jenkins Jr. If those 3 can't step up and produce consistently, then yeah Purdue could be in some trouble relying on 2 freshmen. That said, Loyer is fearless and can score in every facet offensively.
Hayden and Karriem would fit big needs for Purdue, our DB need is massiveStart looking at our D recruits and see which ones you’d like. Apparently a couple might follow him.
Yeah I mean you see it a lot especially in basketball. Some of those guys who aren't seen splashy enough for a bigger HC position but then they go to a lower level school and succeed and then get scooped by a big team.the lower level head coaches? that's what I was advocating for. not splashy, but they know how to win with less and are normally hungry.
His specialty is DBs.Hayden and Karriem would fit big needs for Purdue, our DB need is big