It’s 102 for his career at IU and Cline is 101.7 for his career at Purdue. Unless you really want to count the 3 games he started at Vermont, then be my guest.
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That's true - IU has been really good against in-state teams recently.
So much for reciprocation after my positive comments about Phinisee. I'll continue to be the bigger man. That's how i live my life. Humble, selfless, respectful
I will count those thanks. McBobs is better at defense than Cline. No one but the biggest of Purdue Homers would argue against that.
No he’s not but okay. He’s a white guy that plays hard and isn’t much of a threat offensively=great defender
Not sure how this is relevant to this year. The last two years we've been a .500 team.
So using your logic of strictly looking at defensive rating to compare them as defensive players Mcbobs is about 1 point better in rating. So we'll call it a wash right?
So now looking out their offensive ratings and Cline has about a point advantage on McBobs in career offensive rating. Should we call them a wash on offense as well? The numbers say they are pretty much the same player offensively... right?
That means he’s been as efficient as Cline when he attempts to score, but cline scores 14.9 points per 100 possessions and Mcroberts is 6.5 for their careers. So Mcroberts doesn’t look to score.
You’re implying that my logic is flawed but have yet to show me any proof to actually back up that Mcroberts is a better defender.
God he looks rough but he looked rough when he was with her so hard to tell.
Ole butthole eyes has always looked rough. I see an overdose in his future though.
Defense cant be quantified in stats. If Cline = McBobs on defense based on defensive rating then McBobs = Cline on offense based on offensive rating.
Again we are comparing your 2nd best player with Iu's 5th or 6th best player. Not looking good for Purdue this year...
Cline hit more threes in the first three months of his freshman season than McBob has hit in his entire career.
I think both teams are very unproven, but IU gets a little leeway due to their incoming recruits being evaluated as having a higher talent level/ranking. Purdue will need Cline, Boudreaux, Haarms, and Eastern to help with scoring. IU will need guys like Smith, Green, and Phinisee to score as well. You can have a successful season with 1-2 studs, but you won't go far in the tournament unless your role players step up. We will see if either team's role players have improved since last year, after a month or so of data points.
Doesnt matter. Defense and offensive ratings are all that matter when comparing two players, right @otte21 ?
Maybe next year. Freshman are rarely reliable; he may show flashes in individual games, but doubt he will be a go-to guy. We do expect him to be a very good player for us in the future, though.
No they don’t. But when losing an argument, resort to hyperbole and building strawmans.
I agree they dont. I'm just using Otte's logic. We all know Cline is the superior offensive player, and we also know McBobs is the superior defensive player.
FWIW, I dont think Cline is your 2nd best player either. EB is the 2nd best player on Purdue.
You’re not using any logic. We all don’t know that he’s a superior defender, that’s my point.
I watch the games too ya know? I don’t see anything that points to him being superior defensively AND the metrics back my stance up.
You dont watch very well then. Cline is always guarding the other team's worst offensive wing. McBob is always guarding the other team's best offensive wing.
Well seeing as that he came in for Mathias and Mathias was always guarding the other team’s best wing, I’m going to go with your just bullshitting again based on nothing.
No. Not at all. We just don’t pump up mediocre stats of our 5th/6th best player. The difference is y’all honestly believe Cline is an All B10 type player. Lol. I mean, Ryan Cline. Sir smokes a lot hasn’t shown anything close to being at an all b10 level.
Lol whaaaat?? Cline doesnt have to guard Mathias' man when he checks in for him. When Mathias was out last yea either Eastern or Carsen guarded the best wing. Cline is ALWAYS on the worst wing.
very true. but Crean didn't care about who he recruited
It most certainly is. I've probably watched just as many Purdue games as you have over the last 2 years.
they are a interesting to watch this season. you never know what you will get.
Since you guys all went ham mocking him for a 9-5-4 game...you must have pretty damn high expectations of him. Much more so than we do.
You guys are claiming he is a possible All Big Ten candidate. I can guarentee fans from other schools dont have that type of expectation for him.
Cline is what he is. He will hit 5/10 one game and then 3/10 the next. He is a very inconsistent shooter.
He appears to have improved his passing ability this season and also appears to be putting the ball on the floor more. He will likely average around 10 pts/gm. He will always be a guy that teams dont want to let get open looks. He also will be a guy that teams look to exploit when he is playing defense.
Ok. Then to prove it, can you type us up a comprehensive report of Clines last two years, who he’s guarded, and where that person he’s guarded ranks on your “Opposing players that Cline has guarded” scale. TIA
You made the unprovable argument. How is he a douche?
You made an awful argument. Sorry you made yourself look like an idiot. Simply asked for some proof on how you could come to such a absolute conclusion on something that is totally up for interpretation.
