*Official* 2017-2018 B1G In-Season Thread

[MileHighSpartan]

I don't have a problem with Purdue being ranked higher than MSU based on their resume, but some of these picks don't make sense.

If we're going by resume only, how is Clemson only a 3 seed? They arguably have a better resume than Purdue, Duke, Kansas, etc.

Not a big deal anyway. Still a lot of games to be played, upsets will happen, etc. One thing for sure is that there doesn't seem to be one dominant team incapable of slipping up.

 

[Justin112]

I don't have a problem with Purdue being ranked higher than MSU based on their resume, but some of these picks don't make sense.

If we're going by resume only, how is Clemson only a 3 seed? They arguably have a better resume than Purdue, Duke, Kansas, etc.

Not a big deal anyway. Still a lot of games to be played, upsets will happen, etc. One thing for sure is that there doesn't seem to be one dominant team incapable of slipping up.

MSU should easily at least be a 2. Kansas and UC being there is a joke. UC has a great record just like MSU, but hasn’t beaten anyone lol. You guys have at least beaten Purdue and unc... I mean wtf am I missing?

Plus this should pretty much be based on resume only imo. It’s pretty easy to see what teams might be the most talented/best coached but none of that should really matter

 

[Gumbo02]

If that west region stays the same, I know longshot, Purdue would have to go through Zona which would mean Zona doesn’t make the final four.

Purdue or Sean Miller possibly in the Final Four.

Both sound strange.

 

[SNU0821]

Like I said bub @SNU0821, resumes matter. Purdue losing twice to good opponents on the last possession isn’t going to hurt them much. Their overall body of work is better than MSU’s. Period. Pipe down on this topic since you clearly demonstrate no objectivity whatsoever when it comes to talking about Purdue.

If your team is not in the tournament you’re exempt from speaking on the topic.

You of all people really shouldn’t position yourself as any beacon of objectivity or knowledge on he NCAA Tourney.

 

[B-Westy]

You of all people really shouldn’t position yourself as any beacon of objectivity or knowledge on he NCAA Tourney.

You were wrong. Sack up & take the L on this one.

 

[Justin112]

Purdue or Sean Miller possibly in the Final Four.

Both sound strange.

Sean miller is such a bad coach

 

[hawkeye bb n fb fan]

Someone please help me out on his this works. I've been wondering it for a long time but guess I will ask now:

Does the #1 overall seed play the worst of the 2, 3, 4, etc seeds and the #4 plays the best of them and 2/3 goes the same way, with the 3 playing the second best and the 2 playing the third best, or how does that work?

 

[SNU0821]

You were wrong. Sack up & take the L on this one.

I don’t give a shiz about today as it won’t stay that way. Its clear their seeding is pretty terrible. Again, I found others CBB analysts who don’t have Purdue as a one seed right now. It’s a subjective matter and I still don’t believe Purdue should be a one seed after dropping two straight games.

 

[Mgkcbb]

MSU should easily at least be a 2. Kansas and UC being there is a joke. UC has a great record just like MSU, but hasn’t beaten anyone lol. You guys have at least beaten Purdue and unc... I mean wtf am I missing?

Plus this should pretty much be based on resume only imo. It’s pretty easy to see what teams might be the most talented/best coached but none of that should really matter

Is there a real difference between being a 2 seed and a 3 seed anyways?

You get to play a 6 seed instead of a 7 seed most likely would be the only advantage I can imagine but even then Im not entirely sure 6 seeds are even better than 7 seeds on average. Would need to see some data on that.

There is a huge difference in one seed vs 2 seed imo though.

 

[CardinalBoiler]

Wow...Purdue with the one seed hose job if the NCAA slates it that way

Purdue
Kansas
Unc
Zona

That bracket wouldn't be fun.

 

[B-Westy]

I don’t give a shiz about today as it won’t stay that way. Its clear their seeding is pretty terrible. Again, I found others CBB analysts who don’t have Purdue as a one seed right now. It’s a subjective matter and I still don’t believe Purdue should be a one seed after dropping two straight games.

Well what you & other CBB analysts think/say doesn’t matter. & you clearly aren’t knowledgeable enough on the topic for your opinion to hold any weight.

 

[SNU0821]

Well what you & other CBB analysts think/say doesn’t matter. & you clearly aren’t knowledgeable enough on the topic for your opinion to hold any weight.

Lulz. It’s a subjective topic junior. The fact that some other CBB professionals don’t have Purdue as a one seed proves that I’m not crazy or bias in my comments.

 

[Justin112]

Is there a real difference between being a 2 seed and a 3 seed anyways?

You get to play a 6 seed instead of a 7 seed most likely would be the only advantage I can imagine but even then Im not entirely sure 6 seeds are even better than 7 seeds on average. Would need to see some data on that.

There is a huge difference in one seed vs 2 seed imo though.

I get your point and no I don’t think there is a big difference in 2 or 3 seeds. I just don’t see how you could put UC or Kansas ahead of MSU right now. It seems like a pretty easy decision

 

[bMORE607]

Purdue or Sean Miller possibly in the Final Four.

Both sound strange.

There is a bet between two posters based on Zona making it to the final four.

 

[B-Westy]

Lulz. It’s a subjective topic junior. The fact that some other CBB professionals don’t have Purdue as a one seed proves that I’m not crazy or bias in my comments.

If this was subjective they wouldn’t have a specific method and formula to administer the seeds. Lol you think the committee just sits around watches games & ranks teams in order they THINK is appropriate? Wtf are you smoking?

 

[stakesarehigh]

I get your point and no I don’t think there is a big difference in 2 or 3 seeds. I just don’t see how you could put UC or Kansas ahead of MSU right now. It seems like a pretty easy decision

There is however a big difference in being a 4 versus a 2 or 3

 

[SNU0821]

If this was subjective they wouldn’t have a specific method and formula to administer the seeds. Lol you think the committee just sits around watches games & ranks teams in order they THINK is appropriate? Wtf are you smoking?

Jesus. Do I honestly need to spell it out for you? I said I didnt think Purdue should be a one seed. Seeding for the tournament isn’t decided today. It’s decided in a month. So today’s selection show means absolutely nothing. It is subjective. Again, it’s not unanimous throughout college basketball that Purdue is a one seed. Tells you all you need to know. Apparently you’re not smart enough to understand that.

 

[IUfanBorden]

IMO, IF Ohio State runs the table and goes 17-1, they create an argument for themselves as a #1 seed. If that happens I think it knocks both Purdue and MSU off the 1. Now if OSU were to lose, and they have some toughies @ PSU, @ UM and # IU, it changes things. But if they win out, I cannot see Purdue or MSU getting a 1 seed. If they don't, it becomes interesting between MSU and Purdue. But in no way shape or form do I see both getting a 1 seed. So with that being said, IF OSU were to lose, and MSU and PU win out, it's hard not to argue MSU. They beat Purdue, and have some good wins; North Carolina and UNC by 18. PLust they hammered Nebraska by 29. Tough call.

 

[Mgkcbb]

I get your point and no I don’t think there is a big difference in 2 or 3 seeds. I just don’t see how you could put UC or Kansas ahead of MSU right now. It seems like a pretty easy decision

Yeah Cinci I dont get either. They essentially have the exact same resume as MSU but without the wins.

I do agree with seeding MSU as a 3 if tournament ended today though. Id switch Texas Tech and Cinci.

 

[Mgkcbb]

IMO, IF Ohio State runs the table and goes 17-1, they create an argument for themselves as a #1 seed. If that happens I think it knocks both Purdue and MSU off the 1. Now if OSU were to lose, and they have some toughies @ PSU, @ UM and # IU, it changes things. But if they win out, I cannot see Purdue or MSU getting a 1 seed. If they don't, it becomes interesting between MSU and Purdue. But in no way shape or form do I see both getting a 1 seed. So with that being said, IF OSU were to lose, and MSU and PU win out, it's hard not to argue MSU. They beat Purdue, and have some good wins; North Carolina and UNC by 18. PLust they hammered Nebraska by 29. Tough call.

They went 0-4 in the non con against tournament teams. That is probably too steep a mountain to climb to reach 1 seed peak UNLESS:

If they were to win the B1G tournament with 2 wins over any of Michigan/Purdue/MSU as well as go 17-1, I think they could probably get there because thats one hell of a resume at the end of the day. And that may even be #1 overall seed type of resume who knows.

 

[IUfanBorden]

They went 0-4 in the non con against tournament teams. That is probably too steep a mountain to climb to reach 1 seed peak UNLESS:

If they were to win the B1G tournament with 2 wins over any of Michigan/Purdue/MSU as well as go 17-1, I think they could probably get there because thats one hell of a resume at the end of the day. And that may even be #1 overall seed type of resume who knows.

Understand the OOC woes. BUT...........the teams you mentioned, they have already beaten. If they win out, that means they would be 4-0 vs MSU, PU and Michigan. Not to mention a win over Nebraska. SO in other words, a 17-1 OSU would be 5-0 vs the top tier teams of the Big 10. I know the Big 10 isn't highly regarded this year. But still, 5-0 vs that group is impressive.

Just hard to imagine a 17-1 BT champ with wins over Purdue(@ Mackey), MSU, UM(2x's) and Nebraska(10-4) not being a 1-seed. But hey, IU won the Big 10, and was a 5-seed. So there is that.

 

[Mgkcbb]

Understand the OOC woes. BUT...........the teams you mentioned, they have already beaten. If they win out, that means they would be 4-0 vs MSU, PU and Michigan. Not to mention a win over Nebraska. SO in other words, a 17-1 OSU would be 5-0 vs the top tier teams of the Big 10. I know the Big 10 isn't highly regarded this year. But still, 5-0 vs that group is impressive.

Just hard to imagine a 17-1 BT champ with wins over Purdue(@ Mackey), MSU, UM(2x's) and Nebraska(10-4) not being a 1-seed. But hey, IU won the Big 10, and was a 5-seed. So there is that.

Yeah and Purdue was a 4 seed last year as B1G champ. The B1G is much worse this year than either of the past 2 seasons so OSU could very well not be as high as youd think.

Hell, with wins over Purdue, Michigan, and MSU already they were only a 4 seed today.

 

[ScarletnGrayBuck]

Yeah and Purdue was a 4 seed last year as B1G champ. The B1G is much worse this year than either of the past 2 seasons so OSU could very well not be as high as youd think.

Hell, with wins over Purdue, Michigan, and MSU already they were only a 4 seed today.

OSU seems still under the radar nationally. Even if they win the B1G, I think a 2 seed is their high mark. I think OSU could beat both Purdue and MSU again...and still be ranked below both of them, lol.

 

[Mgkcbb]

OSU seems still under the radar nationally. Even if they win the B1G, I think a 2 seed is their high mark. I think OSU could beat both Purdue and MSU again...and still be ranked below both of them, lol.

Probably is a lot of truth to that. People still dont understand how good this team is. Keita Bates Diop is basically a lock for first team AA at this point and you never read anything about him whereas this time last year all we heard about was Swanigan, Lonzo, and Frank Mason.


With that being said, I dont think the committee will overlook them since they have Auburn as a 2 seed. Its more just OSU had a bad non con so theyre being punished for that instead of being a 1 or 2 seed to me.

 

[ScarletnGrayBuck]

Probably is a lot of truth to that. People still dont understand how good this team is. Keita Bates Diop is basically a lock for first team AA at this point and you never read anything about him whereas this time last year all we heard about was Swanigan, Lonzo, and Frank Mason.


With that being said, I dont think the committee will overlook them since they have Auburn as a 2 seed. Its more just OSU had a bad non con so theyre being punished for that instead of being a 1 or 2 seed to me.

Yep, that tough OOC schedule really helped OSU get their identity and work out some issues, but at least back then they could not compete
with NC or Gonzaga. The Butler game they had won and lost it. Clemson they also had a good lead and blew it. They just weren’t as ready yet to play with top teams as they are now.

 

[bMORE607]

How is Michigan so bad at FTs?

 

[Fatsquirrel]

How is Michigan so bad at FTs?

Blows my mind. Simpson at 49% on the year? That’s embarrassing and going to cost us even more games.

 

[ScarletnGrayBuck]

 

[Mgkcbb]

Blows my mind. Simpson at 49% on the year? That’s embarrassing and going to cost us even more games.

Every time I watch Michigan this season, I find myself circling back to the same question: What if Wilson came back like Miles Bridges did? Theyd be a top 5 team right now.

Beleins so elite at developing talent that it almost hurts Michigan at times (lol).

 

[Fatsquirrel]

Every time I watch Michigan this season, I find myself circling back to the same question: What if Wilson came back like Miles Bridges did? Theyd be a top 5 team right now.

Beleins so elite at developing talent that it almost hurts Michigan at times (lol).

Wish he had but can’t fault a guy for taking the money.

 

[klize17]

Just curious what kind of leash does Gard have? @jwardelt

 

[CardinalBoiler]

This is completely random, but the fact that Zach McRoberts is leading the B1G in steals totally blew my mind when I was just browsing through conference stats.

 

[klize17]

This is completely random, but the fact that Zach McRoberts is leading the B1G in steals totally blew my mind when I was just browsing through conference stats.

McBob!!!

 

[stakesarehigh]

IMO, IF Ohio State runs the table and goes 17-1, they create an argument for themselves as a #1 seed. If that happens I think it knocks both Purdue and MSU off the 1. Now if OSU were to lose, and they have some toughies @ PSU, @ UM and # IU, it changes things. But if they win out, I cannot see Purdue or MSU getting a 1 seed. If they don't, it becomes interesting between MSU and Purdue. But in no way shape or form do I see both getting a 1 seed. So with that being said, IF OSU were to lose, and MSU and PU win out, it's hard not to argue MSU. They beat Purdue, and have some good wins; North Carolina and UNC by 18. PLust they hammered Nebraska by 29. Tough call.

I think the big knock on Ohio State is losing every meaningful OOC matchup

Granted they should've beaten Butler and totally blew the second half against Clemson but still

 

[nitewing]

You keep saying this as if IU, Purdue, or ND recruited Nunge. None of them offered. Did Butler? Now the kid may end up being a nice college basketball player, but your narrative that he was this great Indiana prospect is completely wrong. Iowa stole him from Evansville and Ball St, not the power 5 schools.

White was not recruited that heavily either but he ended his FR season as a FR AA and went on to become Iowa's 2nd all time scorer.

last night when Garza and Cook were held in check Nunge scored 18 points. one major point to remember, in the summer up till he signed he was 6'7 maybe 6'8,. now he is 7'0 and is growing into his body.

if he had been 7' in the summer thru his HS season he would have received far more offer, and he was a 2 TIME 1ST TEAM ALL STATER in class 4A the states largest class.

 

[nitewing]

here is one of the missing pieces in 6'6 SG/SF Wieskamp updated stats, 1st he just passed the class 4A scoring record scoring 54 points in one game then 44 points in the next.
35.3 ppg, 13.9 rpg, 1.44 spg, 1.23 bpg
57.9% from the field, 36.6% from 3 and 83.3% from the FTL.

 

[stakesarehigh]

High school stats now?

Come on man

Jon Diebler is the all time leading scorer for Ohio of all time but he was hardly the best player to come out of the state

 

[theetommyt]

White was not recruited that heavily either but he ended his FR season as a FR AA and went on to become Iowa's 2nd all time scorer.

last night when Garza and Cook were held in check Nunge scored 18 points. one major point to remember, in the summer up till he signed he was 6'7 maybe 6'8,. now he is 7'0 and is growing into his body.

if he had been 7' in the summer thru his HS season he would have received far more offer, and he was a 2 TIME 1ST TEAM ALL STATER in class 4A the states largest class.

And yet the schools that could see him the most decided not to offer. Like I said, the kid could end up being pretty good, but every goofy white kid at Iowa does not turn into Aaron White.

 

[theetommyt]

Just curious what kind of leash does Gard have? @jwardelt

Best case scenario, Gard is fired and Crean is hired.

 

[theetommyt]

Best case scenario, Gard is fired and Crean is hired.

Honestly I think Crean would do almost well at Wisconsin as he did at Indiana, maybe win a couple conference titles. He really is a pretty good coach, just not a great one.

But man I would sell off all my crypto investments to watch Wisconsin fans explode.