*Official* 2017-2018 B1G In-Season Thread
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Man I am just looking at some things and there are not a lot of good wins with the B1G
Outstanding troll job. To answer your question... those are both better than any other MSU win other than today (which was at home). And both those Purdue wins were on the road or neutral. And certainly better than any IU win. IU does have those quality losses against Fort Wayne and ISU though. Purdue lost two games this week (it hurts) to the top of the league by 4 points total in shots made in the last 3 seconds in both (4 losses by a total of 11 points all year). Not bad. Villanova and Virginia lost to unranked teams at home this week.
You should look around the country- what's a big win? Especially on the road?
They beat you at home. At least equal maybe better. I'd rather play UNC but might just.be a matchup thing.
If MSU's great win is against a team without a great win, does MSU have a great win?
Life is full of tough questions.
Life is full of tough questions.
In no way is a win over Michigan > UNC .
Unc beat Michigan head to head. They also beat OSU and Tennessee.
Turge wore a tie today for the first time in forever. Maryland played their best 40 minutes probably all year. Coincidence...I don’t know.
And IU lost to MSU and Purdue by a total of 10 points. A play here and there, and this Indiana team, with no shooters, no true PG, no depth, no center and a walk-on who is/was starting, could be 9-5. But a loss is still a loss. I like where IU basketball is headed.
BTW.......Good game today. Tough loss. What is crazy is you guys could go 16-2(probably will) and yet be the 3-seed. Crazy.
Oh yea the Nojoel over PJ thread was like fishing with dynamite. You knew she was going to be all over that thread.
Purdue has the best resume in the conference by a country mile.
KenPom Wins
#20 by 15 on a neutral court
#24 by 26 on a neutral court
#29 twice both home and away
#36 at home by 9
Those are 5 wins over tournament teams alone and I stopped at KenPoms top 40. Purdue has less losses total than they have wins over tournament teams which is pretty extraordinary.
They have a #1 seed resume, especially this year when everyone keeps losing, but may end up a 2 seed or a 1 seed.
Michigan State needed yesterdays win. It was only their 2nd win over a tournament team. It boosts their resume substantially, even with the win coming at home. They will almost assuredly need another win over Purdue or a win over Ohio State in the conf tourney to have a shot at the 1 seed imo.
KenPom Wins
#20 by 15 on a neutral court
#24 by 26 on a neutral court
#29 twice both home and away
#36 at home by 9
Those are 5 wins over tournament teams alone and I stopped at KenPoms top 40. Purdue has less losses total than they have wins over tournament teams which is pretty extraordinary.
They have a #1 seed resume, especially this year when everyone keeps losing, but may end up a 2 seed or a 1 seed.
Michigan State needed yesterdays win. It was only their 2nd win over a tournament team. It boosts their resume substantially, even with the win coming at home. They will almost assuredly need another win over Purdue or a win over Ohio State in the conf tourney to have a shot at the 1 seed imo.
but but when I posted that, I was told he had to give up coaching because of Health issues. so which is it.
he was fired because of one bad season or did he give up coaching because of health issues.
this is very true and the 11 years before he took over didn't help
Fran is changing the program back to what it was like under Lute and Davis
getting Garza the DC Gatorade POY who chose Iowa over teams like these
Louiville
Georgetown
plus he had over 20 offers.
getting Nunge out of Indiana who was the runnerup in the voting for Indiana Mr. BB and was a two time 1st team all Stater.
the talent in Iowa is improving and Fran is keeping them home.
Cook turned down Kansas to play for Fran.
It’s almost a stretch to say Coach Matta was fired. I guess technically he was. But it was a mutual decision with AD Gene Smith, and Matta had a lot of input bringing Coach Holtmann here. Coach Matta has a dibilitating back condition. Everyone knows this. He can hardly sit or stand a full game. He was not able to get out and recruit the last few years. It affects every part of his family life and really hindered his ability to be a coach. That’s the reason he’s gone. If he was healthy, I have no doubt he’d still be coaching at OSU.
Iowa basketball already is nothing. Can’t get more deflated than that. Nice dig though.
I knew some sort of garbage like this was coming from you at some point.
Of course it did. He makes Snu look sane.
The entire MSU athletic department has been shown to be covering up assaults on women for years strictly to keep players eligible, Izzo included.
And look, since you want to call it garbage lets just be honest here. Its an absolute disgrace and slap in the face of the survivors that
1 - Izzo hasnt resigned yet
2 - That not only hasnt he resigned, he has turned this around and framed it in a way that makes him look like some sort of victim
3 - After women have suffered from his players who not only didnt get kicked off the team, but Appling didnt even miss a game due to suspension or be reprimanded seemingly at all. To say the survivors will rally around his team is a slap in the face.
The only garbage at this point, is that people still support MSU athletics with the same men in charge.
1 - Izzo hasnt resigned yet
2 - That not only hasnt he resigned, he has turned this around and framed it in a way that makes him look like some sort of victim
3 - After women have suffered from his players who not only didnt get kicked off the team, but Appling didnt even miss a game due to suspension or be reprimanded seemingly at all. To say the survivors will rally around his team is a slap in the face.
The only garbage at this point, is that people still support MSU athletics with the same men in charge.
You lashing out because your team lost is entertaining. Please do some actual research and reading on the issue, stop being an ESPN muppet. I have no interest in discussing this with you because you've shown from the beginning that your mind was made up and pitchfork was out the second OTL released their story.
That is not what I am saying.
Fran is probably doing the best he can given the deck of cards in his hands.
Iowa is not going back to what it was under Lute or Davis. It will continue to look similar to the Alford era as time rolls on.
Oh, the rare day after morning meltdown?
Just a shout out to Thad for bringing OSU hoops back...almost 15 years ago
Team slumped last year but that isn't his legacy
Team slumped last year but that isn't his legacy
What I find bizarre about Izzo's thoughts is how he believes his team winning basketball games will help comfort the Nassar survivors.
Let's just assume for a second that his previous players are purely innocent (unlikely, but assume for argument sake)
Why in the world would a group of women who are disgusting with Michigan State on how they handled countless warnings actually give a f*ck on the performance of the basketball team? My guess is most of these female MSU alum despise the university at this point and view the school as somewhat of a stain on their life.
Yet Tom Izzo believes this will be some sort of healing? He is part of the healing process? That is f*cked up and tone deaf especially from an individual who publicly supported a university figure (Simon) the survivors despised all the way to her resignation.
It's highly unlikely anything Izzo says on the topic will be well received.
"I have no interest discussing this with you because you had your mind made up once the evidence showed Michigan State was guilty."
Lol wat?
Stop. You are literally so triggered. No one on this team has been guilty of a crime. Please just stop posting you bullshit
Yup, the head coach of the basketball team is responsible. Just stop. Your own fan base recognizes you as a troll
We're becoming an increasingly ivory tower society. The gymnastics deal was disgusting and I haven't seen any Sparty fan try defending them on the handling of that. To expect Izzo to publicly blast his boss is unreasonable. The two specific incidents regarding MSU hoops haven't produced anything tangible as to Izzo doing anything wrong. Anything outside of that is assuming facts not yet available.
No one is saying those things are good? What are you talking about? I’m sorry Purdue lost (no I’m not) but calm down man.
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