*Official* 2017-2018 B1G In-Season Thread

[ScarletnGrayBuck]

It’s looking more and more like the B1G GOY and probably regular season B1G championship is on 2/7 at Mackey Arena. Wow. Who would have thunk it. Both OSU and Purdue could be 12-0 in league at that point. OSU with 3 games yet against PSU, Ind, ILL (all home) and Purdue games yet against MICH, @Ind, Mary, @Rut. The Boilers look like a lock on a #1 seed and could actually be ranked #1 by that game. OSU also possibly could be a top 10 ranked team by the time they meet on 2/7. Of course Purdue will be favored and has such a strong team, but it’s been such an unbelievable season for OSU that Coach Holtman just might have the Buckeyes believing they can shock the Boilers even at Mackey as surprising as most think that would be. Either of course could get knocked off before that game but 2/7 is looking more and more like the improbable B1G GOY. I know I can’t wait to see what happens the rest of the B1G season between all the top teams and I’m hoping the B1G tournament will be amazing.

 

[Jaycg15]

It’s looking more and more like the B1G GOY and probably regular season B1G championship is on 2/7 at Mackey Arena. Wow. Who would have thunk it. Both OSU and Purdue could be 12-0 in league at that point. OSU with 3 games yet against PSU, Ind, ILL (all home) and Purdue games yet against MICH, @Ind, Mary, @Rut. The Boilers look like a lock on a #1 seed and could actually be ranked #1 by that game. OSU also possibly could be a top 10 ranked team by the time they meet on 2/7. Of course Purdue will be favored and has such a strong team, but it’s been such an unbelievable season for OSU that Coach Holtman just might have the Buckeyes believing they can shock the Boilers even at Mackey as surprising as most think that would be. Either of course could get knocked off before that game but 2/7 is looking more and more like the improbable B1G GOY. I know I can’t wait to see what happens the rest of the B1G season between all the top teams and I’m hoping the B1G tournament will be amazing.

No offense, but the game of the year in the B1G will include both MSU and Purdue this season.

 

[MileHighSpartan]

What’s his history with MSU?

Been on the board for 30+ years, doing gangster shit like in the link I posted previously where he was trying to weasel his way into a big development project by conspiring with the mayor. Link here:

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/...an-state-university-joel-ferguson/1058920001/

East Lansing is a stupid ass town. They make a ton of stupid decisions, make it hard for local businesses to open shop while making it easier for corporate chains to move in, treat students like crap, etc. There is an eyesore just north of campus in what used to be an old bank building (like 20 years ago) that they've been putting out to bid for years, for someone to develop. Multiple development companies have bid on the site, before backing out because of all of the BS from East Lansing city council. Tax credits have come and gone, lawsuits, all kinds of trash.

https://www.lansingstatejournal.com...town-east-lansing-killed-developer/689876001/

 

[boilerzz]

The Boilers look like a lock on a #1 seed and could actually be ranked #1 by that game.

I like that sentence. Can you type it a few hundred more times?

 

[Jaycg15]

I like that sentence. Can you type it a few hundred more times?

I'm sure your compatriots that have flocked to this board will do so happily.

 

[Mgkcbb]

JayC its good to see you change course and start talking about other teams now. You were starting to sound like Giligan telling everyone how 0-8 Illinois is just as good as all the other teams in the conference.

For a minute there, I thought Giligan became an Illini fan.

 

[ScarletnGrayBuck]

No offense, but the game of the year in the B1G will include both MSU and Purdue this season.

Looking at the B1G standings and the results between OSU, Purdue, and MSU so far... I don’t agree but that game will huge also.

 

[Jaycg15]

JayC its good to see you change course and start talking about other teams now. You were starting to sound like Giligan telling everyone how 0-8 Illinois is just as good as all the other teams in the conference.

For a minute there, I thought Giligan became an Illini fan.

Eat shit. I should put you on ignore for saying something like that. I may be a homer, but I don't make outlandish statements like Gil.

 

[Jaycg15]

Looking at the B1G standings and the results between OSU, Purdue, and MSU so far... I don’t agree but that game will huge also.

It's not nearly as interesting as MSU and Purdue. If I was an OSU fan, i might feel the same way, but I think OSU loses to both of those teams.

 

[pig1960]

Looking at the B1G standings and the results between OSU, Purdue, and MSU so far... I don’t agree but that game will huge also.

If OSU and Purdue can get to that game undefeated it will be GOY. How often (ever?) have two teams gone that deep undefeated? I've been watching for 40+ years and can't recall it happening.

 

[bMORE607]

JayC its good to see you change course and start talking about other teams now. You were starting to sound like Giligan telling everyone how 0-8 Illinois is just as good as all the other teams in the conference.

For a minute there, I thought Giligan became an Illini fan.

He's not entirely wrong though, Illinois has lost ,what, 3 games in OT. They are one of the unluckiest teams in country and not that far behind the pack of NW, Iowa, Indiana, etc in KenPom.

 

[Jaycg15]

JayC its good to see you change course and start talking about other teams now. You were starting to sound like Giligan telling everyone how 0-8 Illinois is just as good as all the other teams in the conference.

For a minute there, I thought Giligan became an Illini fan.

He's not entirely wrong though, Illinois has lost ,what, 3 games in OT. They are one of the unluckiest teams in country and not that far behind the pack of NW, Iowa, Indiana, etc in KenPom.

3 OT games and a buzzer beater in big play.

If I were Gil, I'd be talking about racist and referee conspiracy theories.

 

[Mgkcbb]

Yeah I mean other than Indiana losing their starting center, Minnesota losing 2 starters and B1G DPoTY, Maryland losing multiple rotation players, and Wisconsin being forced to play 3 walkons because of injuries, Id say Illinois has been the team with the least amount of luck of the remaining half of the league or so.

 

[nitewing]

comparing Garza and White as FR.
White 23.8 mpg, 11.1 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 0.9 apg, 0.7 bpg shooting 50.4% from the field, 27.9% from 3 and 69.9% from the FTL in 35 games.

Garza 19.5 mpg, 11.2 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.0 apg, 1.2 bpg shooting 58.8% from the field, 37.5% from 3, 64.3% from the FTL in 22 games.

White made the All BT FR Team and was named a FR AA and ended up #2 on the Iowa all time scoring list. plus he led Iowa in rebounding all 4 years.

Garza has his work cut out for him to = White but he is off to a good start, he is now leading Iowa in rpg, leading the team in bpg and is .3 ppg from being 3rd on the team in scoring avg.
Garza also posted his 4th dbl dbl and set a career high of 16 rebounds

this should give him a spot on the All BT FR Team.

 

[ThreeTwaunMoore]

It’s looking more and more like the B1G GOY and probably regular season B1G championship is on 2/7 at Mackey Arena. Wow. Who would have thunk it. Both OSU and Purdue could be 12-0 in league at that point. OSU with 3 games yet against PSU, Ind, ILL (all home) and Purdue games yet against MICH, @Ind, Mary, @Rut. The Boilers look like a lock on a #1 seed and could actually be ranked #1 by that game. OSU also possibly could be a top 10 ranked team by the time they meet on 2/7. Of course Purdue will be favored and has such a strong team, but it’s been such an unbelievable season for OSU that Coach Holtman just might have the Buckeyes believing they can shock the Boilers even at Mackey as surprising as most think that would be. Either of course could get knocked off before that game but 2/7 is looking more and more like the improbable B1G GOY. I know I can’t wait to see what happens the rest of the B1G season between all the top teams and I’m hoping the B1G tournament will be amazing.

Long way to go before OSU game. I'm certainly rooting for both squads to be undefeated because I am going to the game and that atmosphere would be absolutely nuts. I think Purdue's very, very good, way better than I ever thought they could be, but I also think its performance lately has been a tad bit exaggerated because of its opponents. Minnesota, Iowa and Wisconsin are not good teams.

 

[Jaycg15]

Yeah I mean other than Indiana losing their starting center, Minnesota losing 2 starters and B1G DPoTY, Maryland losing multiple rotation players, and Wisconsin being forced to play 3 walkons because of injuries, Id say Illinois has been the team with the least amount of luck of the remaining half of the league or so.

Yeah, that's not the same thing. You should know as an analytical genius. Illinois is ranked 341/351 in luck.

 

[Mgkcbb]

Yeah, that's not the same thing. You should know as an analytical genius. Illinois is ranked 341/351 in luck.

I dont care enough about this to argue I was simply trying to give you a hard time, but Illinois has the 10th offense and 12th defense in conference play. Takes a pretty delusional leap of faith to blame their poor record on luck. But carry on, Im not trying to get a dog in this fight.

 

[ScarletnGrayBuck]

It's not nearly as interesting as MSU and Purdue. If I was an OSU fan, i might feel the same way, but I think OSU loses to both of those teams.

Anything can happen but OSU already beat MSU by 16.

 

[nitewing]

I think they might have to be voted out. Possibly in a case like this, they can be fired or whatever... but not sure who has that power.

Some of the tweets linked in this article suggest it would be by vote only:

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/...an-state-university-joel-ferguson/1058920001/

the state of Michigan does have a Board of Regents Right? if so they have the power to fire him and anybody including the President of the University if they are found either guilty or not doing anything.

 

[hawkeye bb n fb fan]

comparing Garza and White as FR.
White 23.8 mpg, 11.1 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 0.9 apg, 0.7 bpg shooting 50.4% from the field, 27.9% from 3 and 69.9% from the FTL in 35 games.

Garza 19.5 mpg, 11.2 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.0 apg, 1.2 bpg shooting 58.8% from the field, 37.5% from 3, 64.3% from the FTL in 22 games.

White made the All BT FR Team and was named a FR AA and ended up #2 on the Iowa all time scoring list. plus he led Iowa in rebounding all 4 years.

Garza has his work cut out for him to = White but he is off to a good start, he is now leading Iowa in rpg, leading the team in bpg and is .3 ppg from being 3rd on the team in scoring avg.
Garza also posted his 4th dbl dbl and set a career high of 16 rebounds

this should give him a spot on the All BT FR Team.

White played SF and Garza plays Center. Why are you comparing them?

 

[Jaycg15]

I dont care enough about this to argue I was simply trying to give you a hard time, but Illinois has the 10th offense and 12th defense in conference play. Takes a pretty delusional leap of faith to blame their poor record on luck. But carry on, Im not trying to get a dog in this fight.

You're so transparent. If you weren't trying to argue like the 99% of the time you spend on here, why even mention any rankings?

Luck is a stat. Illinois is ranked 341st. I guess ole KenPom should come on here and learn from the guy who uses them for porn.

 

[Jaycg15]

It's not nearly as interesting as MSU and Purdue. If I was an OSU fan, i might feel the same way, but I think OSU loses to both of those teams.

Anything can happen but OSU already beat MSU by 16.

My bad, I thought they played again.

 

[Fatsquirrel]

the state of Michigan does have a Board of Regents Right? if so they have the power to fire him and anybody including the President of the University if they are found either guilty or not doing anything.

Ferguson is a board member for MSU. The state of Michigan as a whole does not have board, they are unique to their specific university system.

 

[Mgkcbb]

You know what youre right JayC and I was so wrong. Illinois is dope. Once luck turns around for them watch out.

 

[Jaycg15]

You know what youre right JayC and I was so wrong. Illinois is dope. Once luck turns around for them watch out.

I know you think you're smart, so go back and read what I wrote. Maybe your reading comprehension will drastically improve. I'll judge you on your retake because your initial take has me confusing you for Gil.

 

[Mgkcbb]

No Im being serious. I like Underwood. Was just trying to joke around with you and you went full Gil and took it super serious.

Illinois is dope man I like that turnover inducing pressure defense Underwood has instilled.

 

[nitewing]

Ferguson is a board member for MSU. The state of Michigan as a whole does not have board, they are unique to their specific university system.

thanks, as Iowa BOR does have that power.

 

[boilerzz]

He's not entirely wrong though, Illinois has lost ,what, 3 games in OT. They are one of the unluckiest teams in country and not that far behind the pack of NW, Iowa, Indiana, etc in KenPom.

Big Ten luck ranks:

Indiana - 69
OSU - 104
Nebraska - 106
Michigan - 121
Minnesota - 157
Purdue - 177
Northwestern - 187
Maryland - 212
MSU - 213
Rutgers - 244
Iowa - 313
Wisconsin - 318
PSU - 331
Illinois - 341

 

[bMORE607]

Big Ten luck ranks:

Indiana - 69
OSU - 104
Nebraska - 106
Michigan - 121
Minnesota - 157
Purdue - 177
Northwestern - 187
Maryland - 212
MSU - 213
Rutgers - 244
Iowa - 313
Wisconsin - 318
PSU - 331
Illinois - 341

What I said was true Illinois is one of the unluckiest teams in the country.

 

[RutgHoops]

We play (at least) three guys who are playing basketball two levels too high. But man, we play hard. Pikiell bringing in five new kids next year. I am getting a little excited. Not Iowa excited, but excited none the less.

Go RU!

 

[Jaycg15]

No Im being serious. I like Underwood. Was just trying to joke around with you and you went full Gil and took it super serious.

Illinois is dope man I like that turnover inducing pressure defense Underwood has instilled.

 

[IUfanBorden]

You defeated two teams without significant pieces that we dealt with. Both teams lost a guy that killed us. We went to OT against Maryland. We likely win that with no Justin Jackson. He went 20pts and 6reb against us. We played Maryland with Reggie Lynch. He put up 11pts and 12reb (5 offensive). We have a better chance against Maryland without a guy who goes for 140 ORtg and 83 Drtg against us.

Northwestern beat us in OT by 4. I guess that's an ass beating, or you're just ignorant and talking out of your ass about it.

All I'm saying is that we have a better chance of winning games with the way scheduling/injuries have played in favor to your schedule. We played 5 of our first 7 in the B1G on the road with one of those home games being MSU. The only away game you've even won is against a Minnesota team that was 13-3 with Lynch and is 1-6 without him. It will even out.

Man, you make 0-8 sound so good. Great job.

 

[IUfanBorden]

Yeah, that's not the same thing. You should know as an analytical genius. Illinois is ranked 341/351 in luck.

SImply a stat to make people feel better. You're 10th in scoring and 12th in defense........But luck is why you are 0-8?

Ok.

 

[IUfanBorden]

And for the record----I think tonight's game is going to be a toughie. I just find it comical how JayC is trying to sugar coat 0-8.

If, if, if, if............

 

[Jaycg15]

96 in KP last I checked. Your wins in conference look pretty without context, but the 2 wins you get on the back half are going to shut all you IU slappies up.

 

[Jaycg15]

And for the record----I think tonight's game is going to be a toughie. I just find it comical how JayC is trying to sugar coat 0-8.

If, if, if, if............

Yeah, I'd say the same thing because you know despite the difference in record, you're no more talented.

 

[bMORE607]

SImply a stat to make people feel better. You're 10th in scoring and 12th in defense........But luck is why you are 0-8?

Ok.

They are 11 spots behind you in Kenpom. Also lol @ you trying to save face and saying tonight's games a toughie. Come on they are an 0-8 team, this should be no problem.

 

[IUfanBorden]

They are 11 spots behind you in Kenpom. Also lol @ you trying to save face and saying tonight's games a toughie. Come on they are an 0-8 team, this should be no problem.

Not trying to "save face". We are 12-8. Not 18-2. We start a freshman and a walk-on. MSU had trouble there. Thinking it would be anything but a toughie would be stupid.

 

[IUfanBorden]

Yeah, I'd say the same thing because you know despite the difference in record, you're no more talented.

Never said we were more talented. Never said we were that much better. Not once. I just disagreed with your take on the only difference between Ill/IU is their schedule. But our schedules are damn near identical. Sure we played MD and Minny shorthanded. But dude, we start a walk-on and a freshman. Lost De'Ron Davis. Yet still managed to win those games. Then you start yapping about the "luck factor". What's next? Donald Trump's the reason you guys are 0-8?

Illinois has always been a tough place for IU to play. It's a rivalry game. We've had much, much better teams go there and lose. So I 100% expect a dog-fight. It usually is.

 

[Jaycg15]

Never said we were more talented. Never said we were that much better. Not once. I just disagreed with your take on the only difference between Ill/IU is their schedule. But our schedules are damn near identical. Sure we played MD and Minny shorthanded. But dude, we start a walk-on and a freshman. Lost De'Ron Davis. Yet still managed to win those games. Then you start yapping about the "luck factor". What's next? Donald Trump's the reason you guys are 0-8?

Illinois has always been a tough place for IU to play. It's a rivalry game. We've had much, much better teams go there and lose. So I 100% expect a dog-fight. It usually is.

Playing two teams without major pieces is a huge reason you won. The end.