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Uh, no. They had huge demands in general. And we know that Nike was willing and planning to pay. But for some reason both parties changed their minds? Brilliant!
Btw, why do I need to prove anything? What I’m doing is no different than what you did. You said “everybody knows” that KU/Self have cheated. And I said that everybody knows that Duke/Kentucky cheat. You have zero proof, so why am I being asked for proof?
KU and Self have actually been caught and punished. Duke not so much. Are you really this stupid.
It’s common sense.
Look, if you actually truly believe that Kansas was offering a fat bag of cash and he turned it down to go play at DUKE for free, then you truly are a smooth brain and not worth talking to. Either you’re incredibly naive and that makes you a child or you’re incredibly dumb. Either makes you not worth talking to.
Actually it isn’t. Again, you have no proof. If it is so obvious, why is there no proof. Any recordings or emails or texts proving your accusations. Provide them and I will happily say I was wrong. But many have said it, but none have proof.
Actually it is. Your stance is incredibly naive.
As for proof, proof is hard to come by. The only reason there’s any proof against KU is because a guy didn’t report his taxes properly. And the NCAA never even investigated DUKE. They just asked Duke to investigate it themselves and predictably they found nothing and the NCAA just took them at their word.
Besides which, many ex players have said plenty about getting paid, so it isn’t like there isn’t proof of K doing it in the past.
In a federal court, KU was ruled to have been defrauded by Adidas. To date, nothing has come from the NCAA’s charges.
You have proof of zilch.
If the police found texts between a prostitute and a john discussing cost and arrangements, are you going to assume that nothing illegal occurred? Bwahahaha…
Unlike you, my head isn’t buried. But if you clowns are going to demand proof, be prepared to provide some.
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Proves nothing, other than that they're willing to absorb a minor punishment in order to make this go away.
Are you going to respond to the prostitute example? According to you, we should assume that nothing happened, right?
Now go ahead and provide some proof that KU was involved in financial transactions. According to you, it should be easy to find. Chop chop.
So you agree. Self was guilty of recruiting violations and Sat out 4 games. GUILTY. Or did he just want to give Roberts a chance. The guilty don’t sit out.
When has K or Scheyer Sat out due to violations? Oh. NEVER.
Just admit it. KU cheats. Cheated under Roy. Lester Earl. And continue to cheat under Self.
Less talk, more proof. Chop chop. You fired the shots. You said that Preston's words "confirmed" cheating. So show us the proof.
I've never buried my head or denied that they were aware of violations. I'm just laughing at the fact that fans of teams with NBA payrolls are the ones pointing the finger. Never fails to amuse.
Duke and Kentucky each produce twice as many NBA players as the next program on the list. In a pay for play landscape, you got your pick of the litter year after year. We don't even have to look at the litany of evidence. Do the math, morons. 😆
The same idiots who scream that the NCAA is a joke for not hammering KU (nevermind the fact that they still haven't figured out that the case isn't even decided by the NCAA) also think that an absence of NCAA punishments for Duke/Kentucky proves their innocence. Can't make it up.
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Still no proof. Completely understand. In normal real life, like most of us live. Not your pretend life. Absence of guilt means innocent. KU guilty. Duke, not guilty. Simple. Simpleton.
Did I say that there is concrete "proof" against Duke? No. Therefore, I'm obviously not attempting to provide any.
For the 20th time, where is the proof against KU? Still waiting. A minor self-punishment is not proof of anything. Plea bargaining isn't proof of guilt for one charge, let alone all charges. Even a man-child like you should understand that.
Is it difficult to breath with your head so far up your ass. Pretty obvious it is hard to see the facts.
So we need hard proof to point the finger at Duke, but not KU? It's like arguing with a 5 year old.
Speaking of things that are obvious...
Person A demands compensation for playing basketball. Company B wants to pay Person A specific amounts to play basketball. Mr A commits to one of the flagship schools sponsored by Company B.
Afamu logic: It is very unlikely that Mr A received any money from said company to play college basketball.
Tell me more about what's "obvious," chief. 😂
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Still no proof. Got it. Self sat out just for a break huh? KU admitted the cheating. But E *** says no proof. Got it.
If the NCAA or IARP had hard proof of anything, this thing would have been over long ago and certainly wouldn't have taken 5 years. If you had a little common sense, you'd have figured this out by now.
They negotiated a halfway point to appease the IARP and to potentially avoid more severe punishments.
Someone like you says "why wouldja punish yourself if you're innocent?" Maybe you think this is a court of law. It's not. The NCAA/IARP don't need proof to impose a penalty. If KU were to sit on their hands, it does them no good. There's no guarantee that they'll ever be exonerated, even if completely innocent. And while they're waiting for resolution, rival programs/coaches continue to negative recruit against them.
If it were known that major punishments were on the way, obviously it would be pointless and counter productive to self-punish. They know there are no major punishments on the way, and they want to move on and put this behind them.
Now that that's established....if someone held a gun to your head and asked you if Zion received money prior to playing at Duke, what's your answer? A false answer gets your little head blown off.
Afamu is truly one of the most dense and naive people I’ve ever seen on the internet. Room temp IQ….at best. Anybody that naive and stupid is not worth talking to.
Welp. Say goodbye to your head. 😂
I'd love to know how someone determines it's unlikely that a transaction (or multiple) occurred, despite there being two willing parties. Not to mention evidence of other transactions involving his father.
Then again, we all know it's best to not waste time trying to make sense of the stuff you type.
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Prove it and I will believe it. Simple. Not sure why that is hard to understand.
Not at all. I just ask that you prove your accusations. No, it has to be or assumptions. Actual proof. I don’t think is too much to ask. K was there 45 years and was accused of cheating for at least the last 25. There has to be some documented proof.
I can throw in some more adjectives about that clown but I engage with him because it's so easy to get under his skin. No one on this board is more sensitive and naive than him.
Coming from the biggest cheater school fan, this really means nothing.
After a 15 minute internal investigation, Duke confirmed they did nothing wrong and Zion chose them because they actually offered nothing and he wanted to play for a clean program.
Coming from the fool who’s handle makes him naive, sensitive and obsessed. Looks like you got everything covered Charmin.
Gee. That is only the 1,000 time you have said that. It really gets to me. Always a reminder of the the school you root for and the 23 year cheating scandal.
Zion was smart enough to know that the long term financial advantages of joining #TheBrotherhood outweighed the up front cash payment clearly.
Also if Nike execs bribed Zion and his family and "steered" him to go to their flagship school Duke and no one on the Duke side is aware of this the school isn't culpable.
Money, house for mom and dad, whatever. Zion still got screwed. Nobody told him he'd have to play home games in front of 10,00 dorks every game, many of them dressed in weird Sesame Street costumes.
Pretty obvious you have never been to Cameron. But I guess with all those dental bills you can’t afford to travel.
It’s pretty clear that everyone recruiting Zion was aware of his family’s demands (which were massive).
I mean, is it possible that K and his staff were the only ones oblivious to the situation, or that they overcame a massive bidding war to land him for nothing? Yeah, sure, I guess so…
On second thought….no. No, it isn’t. 🤣
Indeed. They've been using that since at least the 90s.
Maggette: Yes, I took money from Piggie when I was an amateur.
K: I wasn't aware of that.
NCAA: That's all we needed to hear.
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