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If we are being honest. Neither the right or the left really cares about black people because I don't think that either actually cares about anyone. It's a manipulative system that is designed to obtain votes and divide the public. What black people need to do is focus on policies. Socially speaking, things have improved for minorities at a faster rate than economically speaking. It can be argued that left has held them back economically with their policies all while making it seem as if they were helping them. I call this dirty politics just like it is dirty politics when the right fluffs the NRA or pretends to instill Christian values for votes. There are too many examples of political pandering to list, that's why people need to open their eyes and use their own heads. Stop letting others think for them and vote for the policies that are better for the people. Take a look at individual policies and weigh the pros and cons of the bad policies vs the good.
Bingo. Problem is, both sides are willing to lie too much about said policies that it's really hard to make a good decision.
 
Where did I say that? I said I like and value what X said in that clip.


How much a fan of Malcolm X are you when he's talking about white devils and the use of violence where necessary? You have your sound clip and now you're pretending something he said in 1964 is the whole, eternal truth. (I notice you're using a present verb tense, as if they said these things yesterday.)


How much do you respect Ali's conscientious objection to military service based on his peaceful Muslim faith? I suspect you're using him when you can create your own context, but will turn around and call Islam inherently violent at the first opportunity. The irony of the right co-opting people they never supported to condemn the left. Lol


I don’t ever condone violence. You do realize that it’s entirely possible to agree with one thing someone says while disagreeing with other things. Just because someone condones something that is wrong doesn’t make everything they say/do wrong. You do understand that right?


It's logic, not conspiracy: education broadens minds and usually makes people more liberal. Liberals haven't perpetrated some surreptitious takeover of education; education naturally leans left.


I have no interest in your rankings of Presidents.


Education should broaden minds yes, but if you aren’t aware of the BS the Left has done in the name of education then you need to educate yourself.


Good, because I had no interest in raking Presidents. That wasn’t even the point I was making. Did it really fly right over your head?



We weren't talking about LBJ, really, but that quote sounds very much in line with the current right-wing talking points about the so-called "race card," "personal responsibility," all lives matter, welfare queens, handouts, cultural problem, family problem, Chicago, referring to people of color as "breeders," slavery as a favor to black people, slavery as irrelevant today, cherry-picking a conservative quotation from a black person and touting it as Gospel, dismissing all claims of racism as an agenda when it comes from any non-conservative black person, denying privilege, denying institutional racism, denying ongoing white supremacy, so-called "black-on-black" crime, responding to complaints about racism w/ the idea that they could go back to Africa, and getting indignant that black people aren't quiet like X and Ali and MLK were by the time conservatives started quoting them.



Are you saying black people are so stupid they've fallen for that en masse without any other reason to vote Democratic?


Please explain to me what is wrong with these things:

-personal responsibility

-saying all lives matter (I wasn’t aware they didn’t)


As for all the other garbage you post.

-There are issues with people living off of welfare and cultural issues. That has happened though in large part due to the policies of the Left.

-This video is excellent taking on “Cultural problems, black on black crime and the BLM movement. He uses statistics which prove his point. I’d love to hear how you explain this away.


Here’s another that tackles privilege, and other Left myths they use to skew the argument. I’d highly recommend watching the entire video, but I’ll save you the time and link you to where he talks about privilege. Oh and he also speaks on the War on Drugs you were referencing before. Watch it all. He uses statistics and facts.




Here’s Morgan Freeman on the whole race issue and I agree 100%.




Lil Wayne on racism. You’d think if racism was so rampant he’d have experienced it before, but claims he never has.




Black people vote Democratic in large part because they buy into the perception that the Left is helping them with all the social programs, but the reality is those programs are stagnating and dividing the black community.


What have conservatives done since then for the black vote other than create the War on Drugs, gerrymander, and suppress their vote?


Are you seriously trying to say the War on Drugs was created to specifically hold down the black man? I don’t know enough about gerrymander to comment on that, I do know that not everything the Right does is on the up and up.


Give me an example of the Right trying to suppress the Black vote so I have something to comment on. I’m not aware of any REAL attempts, but there are some issues the Left try to manufacture as such.


What Conservatives have tried to do is reverse the programs that Democrats have created that have stymied the growth of black communities for decades now. The Left is the reason why black communities are improperly policed, huge single family numbers, and don’t really try to help themselves get out of poverty. Of course you won’t agree with me on any of these things, but it is the truth.


You'll comment on it when someone else does, though.


Yes I did comment on it, and if you’d notice, I said the quote is unverifiable.


LBJ died in 1973. That's the same year President Nixon's Justice Dept sued real estate tycoon Donald J Trump for housing discrimination against people of color. Under President Ford, they sued again 3 years later. NJ fined his casino for racist practices in '92. He still thinks the Central Park 5 were guilty despite their convictions being overturned in 2002. And if you remember an LBJ quotation from 1973, perhaps you'll remember these gems from current President, Donald J Trump, in 2017:

"You also had some very fine people on both sides."

"I stand by my pardon of Sheriff Joe [Arpaio]."

"They are trying to take away our history and our heritage."


Not sure what your point is here… I didn’t vote for Trump and I am not a particular fan of Nixon, so…
 
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I was born in 1960. Dirt poor. Literally. Lived in rental houses on farms through pre-school. Out house, no plumbing, water from a well, in a bucket. Mom and dad were democratic, living around Republican relatives. We never, ever had government assistance. Mom was too proud. She worked in a clothing factory and dad struggled trying to farm...for others. Why am I sharing? To show how my political beliefs formed. Attended Berea college (liberal arts). This helped form my political thought process. Anyway, fast forward. Life didn' improve much over the years. The country seemed to pass me by. Mostly my fault. After voting Democratic for 40 years, and seeing what the party was trying to feed me last election, I changed my vote. Haven't regretted it yet. No matter what I read or hear. I think alot of folks did the same.

Edit: and I open doors for everyone. Man, woman, and confused.
 
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I was born in 1960. Dirt poor. Literally. Lived in rental houses on farms through pre-school. Out house, no plumbing, water from a well, in a bucket. Mom and dad were democratic, living around Republican relatives. We never, ever had government assistance. Mom was too proud. She worked in a clothing factory and dad struggled trying to farm...for others. Why am I sharing? To show how my political beliefs formed. Attended Berea college (liberal arts). This helped form my political thought process. Anyway, fast forward. Life didn' improve much over the years. The country seemed to pass me by. Mostly my fault. After voting Democratic for 40 years, and seeing what the party was trying to feed me last election, I changed my vote. Haven't regretted it yet. No matter what I read or hear. I think alot of folks did the same.

Edit: and I open doors for everyone. Man, woman, and confused.
Thanks for sharing. Hopefully things will turn for the better for you.
 
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Isn’t it just sad that if you’re black and endorse Trump or Republicans you’re called an Uncle Tom or something along those lines? Like it’s impossible to be a rational black republican in the eyes of the left.
The whole slavery bit Kanye bantered on about was somewhat superfluous and short sighted. Then again, dude is in it to be in the limelight, and to say asinine things, he will keep being in the limelight, so it somewhat worked in his favor. Though it was in poor, poor taste.
 
The whole slavery bit Kanye bantered on about was somewhat superfluous and short sighted. Then again, dude is in it to be in the limelight, and to say asinine things, he will keep being in the limelight, so it somewhat worked in his favor. Though it was in poor, poor taste.
Yea, the slavery comment was really stupid.
 
I don’t ever condone violence. You do realize that it’s entirely possible to agree with one thing someone says while disagreeing with other things. Just because someone condones something that is wrong doesn’t make everything they say/do wrong. You do understand that right?





Education should broaden minds yes, but if you aren’t aware of the BS the Left has done in the name of education then you need to educate yourself.


Good, because I had no interest in raking Presidents. That wasn’t even the point I was making. Did it really fly right over your head?






Please explain to me what is wrong with these things:

-personal responsibility

-saying all lives matter (I wasn’t aware they didn’t)


As for all the other garbage you post.

-There are issues with people living off of welfare and cultural issues. That has happened though in large part due to the policies of the Left.

-This video is excellent taking on “Cultural problems, black on black crime and the BLM movement. He uses statistics which prove his point. I’d love to hear how you explain this away.


Here’s another that tackles privilege, and other Left myths they use to skew the argument. I’d highly recommend watching the entire video, but I’ll save you the time and link you to where he talks about privilege. Oh and he also speaks on the War on Drugs you were referencing before. Watch it all. He uses statistics and facts.




Here’s Morgan Freeman on the whole race issue and I agree 100%.




Lil Wayne on racism. You’d think if racism was so rampant he’d have experienced it before, but claims he never has.




Black people vote Democratic in large part because they buy into the perception that the Left is helping them with all the social programs, but the reality is those programs are stagnating and dividing the black community.





Are you seriously trying to say the War on Drugs was created to specifically hold down the black man? I don’t know enough about gerrymander to comment on that, I do know that not everything the Right does is on the up and up.


Give me an example of the Right trying to suppress the Black vote so I have something to comment on. I’m not aware of any REAL attempts, but there are some issues the Left try to manufacture as such.


What Conservatives have tried to do is reverse the programs that Democrats have created that have stymied the growth of black communities for decades now. The Left is the reason why black communities are improperly policed, huge single family numbers, and don’t really try to help themselves get out of poverty. Of course you won’t agree with me on any of these things, but it is the truth.





Yes I did comment on it, and if you’d notice, I said the quote is unverifiable.





Not sure what your point is here… I didn’t vote for Trump and I am not a particular fan of Nixon, so…

Jesus man, all your videos and links are weird. And justfor future reference, every time you start a statement with something like "the left is..." it's basically followed by bullshit.
 
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I don’t ever condone violence. You do realize that it’s entirely possible to agree with one thing someone says while disagreeing with other things. Just because someone condones something that is wrong doesn’t make everything they say/do wrong. You do understand that right?





Education should broaden minds yes, but if you aren’t aware of the BS the Left has done in the name of education then you need to educate yourself.


Good, because I had no interest in raking Presidents. That wasn’t even the point I was making. Did it really fly right over your head?






Please explain to me what is wrong with these things:

-personal responsibility

-saying all lives matter (I wasn’t aware they didn’t)


As for all the other garbage you post.

-There are issues with people living off of welfare and cultural issues. That has happened though in large part due to the policies of the Left.

-This video is excellent taking on “Cultural problems, black on black crime and the BLM movement. He uses statistics which prove his point. I’d love to hear how you explain this away.


Here’s another that tackles privilege, and other Left myths they use to skew the argument. I’d highly recommend watching the entire video, but I’ll save you the time and link you to where he talks about privilege. Oh and he also speaks on the War on Drugs you were referencing before. Watch it all. He uses statistics and facts.




Here’s Morgan Freeman on the whole race issue and I agree 100%.




Lil Wayne on racism. You’d think if racism was so rampant he’d have experienced it before, but claims he never has.




Black people vote Democratic in large part because they buy into the perception that the Left is helping them with all the social programs, but the reality is those programs are stagnating and dividing the black community.





Are you seriously trying to say the War on Drugs was created to specifically hold down the black man? I don’t know enough about gerrymander to comment on that, I do know that not everything the Right does is on the up and up.


Give me an example of the Right trying to suppress the Black vote so I have something to comment on. I’m not aware of any REAL attempts, but there are some issues the Left try to manufacture as such.


What Conservatives have tried to do is reverse the programs that Democrats have created that have stymied the growth of black communities for decades now. The Left is the reason why black communities are improperly policed, huge single family numbers, and don’t really try to help themselves get out of poverty. Of course you won’t agree with me on any of these things, but it is the truth.





Yes I did comment on it, and if you’d notice, I said the quote is unverifiable.





Not sure what your point is here… I didn’t vote for Trump and I am not a particular fan of Nixon, so…
I'm not wasting my time with most of that. It's crap along the same lines as the things I will address and I'm pretty convinced you're a lost cause. @bkingUK already did a pretty good job addressing some: your videos and links are "weird," he says, which is putting it very nicely. They're extreme and slanted and you present them as if they're objective. And you are prone to sweeping statements about "the left is..."

"Personal responsibility" has been code for blaming people of color for their circumstances.
"All lives matter" is a response intended to shut down "Black lives matter." "Black lives matter" is necessary b/c there is little doubt other lives matter. There is tremendous doubt that society is fulfilling the promise of all lives mattering when it comes to black lives. If you and a group of friends go canoeing and Billy falls overboard and someone yells, "Hey! Billy needs to be in the boat!" are you going to respond with "ALL of us need to be in the boat"?

That you would even question those two things, and that you go on to refer to privilege as a myth, show me you're completely tone deaf and you won't learn until it affects you personally. So yeah, while I stand behind what I said about the War on Drugs and black voter suppression, you've already dismissed any proof as "manufactured" and stated your opinions as "truth," so there's no point trying to discuss it with you.

The overwhelming majority of crimes against people are committed within the same race. We don't call other crime "white-on-white" crime, so why the emphasis on calling crime committed in impoverished, largely segregated neighborhoods "black-on-black" crime? You love that Morgan Freeman doesn't want to talk about race, yet it's white conservatives pushing the language of "black-on-black" crime, and not to focus on the victims, either. It's usually brought up as a deflection when faced with an incident of alleged police brutality involving race and to condemn black communities. All of a sudden, it's what-about-black-on-black crime? What-about-Chicago?
 
Isn’t it just sad that if you’re black and endorse Trump or Republicans you’re called an Uncle Tom or something along those lines? Like it’s impossible to be a rational black republican in the eyes of the left.
Uncle Tom is unfairly maligned. He was noble and dignified, not a sell-out.

It's a term I'd never use and haven't heard other white people use in a long, long time.

It is a shame that it is used at all and that black conservatives are the targets of that epithet. Theirs is the only black struggle most white conservatives ever acknowledge.
 
Thanks for sharing. Hopefully things will turn for the better for you.
That explanation of why someone went from Democrat to something else you accept at face value. Why millions of black people vote Democratic you've generalized and slandered.
 
*Cries about people citing skewed and agenda driven sources*

*Cites Vox*




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That explanation of why someone went from Democrat to something else you accept at face value. Why millions of black people vote Democratic you've generalized and slandered.
Why would I lie? Context. Does this mean your comments are wrong? Don't understand "face value".
 
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You're white so you were automatically born into privilege in his eyes, regardless of how many struggles you faced.
White people do have many struggles and endeavors thy must face through adversity, however there is a leg up in a social standpoint for caucasians. It is what it is. Lotta conservatives have a hard time swallowing that pill.
 
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White people do have many struggles and endeavors thy must face through adversity, however there is a leg up in a social standpoint for caucasians. It is what it is. Lotta conservatives have a hard time swallowing that pill.
Well, there's different pills for different ailments.
 
Why would I lie? Context. Does this mean your comments are wrong? Don't understand "face value".
No! Nothing wrong with any of that. He accepts it as he ought to and I know of no reason anyone should doubt anything you said.

When black people share their experience with racism, they don't get the same, appropriate benefit of the doubt.
 
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I'm not wasting my time with most of that. It's crap along the same lines as the things I will address and I'm pretty convinced you're a lost cause. @bkingUK already did a pretty good job addressing some: your videos and links are "weird," he says, which is putting it very nicely. They're extreme and slanted and you present them as if they're objective. And you are prone to sweeping statements about "the left is..."

"Personal responsibility" has been code for blaming people of color for their circumstances.
"All lives matter" is a response intended to shut down "Black lives matter." "Black lives matter" is necessary b/c there is little doubt other lives matter. There is tremendous doubt that society is fulfilling the promise of all lives mattering when it comes to black lives. If you and a group of friends go canoeing and Billy falls overboard and someone yells, "Hey! Billy needs to be in the boat!" are you going to respond with "ALL of us need to be in the boat"?

That you would even question those two things, and that you go on to refer to privilege as a myth, show me you're completely tone deaf and you won't learn until it affects you personally. So yeah, while I stand behind what I said about the War on Drugs and black voter suppression, you've already dismissed any proof as "manufactured" and stated your opinions as "truth," so there's no point trying to discuss it with you.

The overwhelming majority of crimes against people are committed within the same race. We don't call other crime "white-on-white" crime, so why the emphasis on calling crime committed in impoverished, largely segregated neighborhoods "black-on-black" crime? You love that Morgan Freeman doesn't want to talk about race, yet it's white conservatives pushing the language of "black-on-black" crime, and not to focus on the victims, either. It's usually brought up as a deflection when faced with an incident of alleged police brutality involving race and to condemn black communities. All of a sudden, it's what-about-black-on-black crime? What-about-Chicago?
Pass Dattier some more kool aid.
 
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