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Lazy lives matter.
 
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I'm going to leave you with white even earlier next time

Okay, I'm going to admit something... it actually went well. I just only went to the FAR side of lane, and he did a decent job driving and either dishing or trying to score, depending on what my defender did. We ended up winning maybe six in a row. So who knows... maybe it will work out...although it KILLS me that he simply refuses to post me up.
 
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Okay, I'm going to admit something... it actually went well. I just only went to the FAR side of lane, and he did a decent job driving and either dishing or trying to score, depending on what my defender did. We ended up winning maybe six in a row. So who knows... maybe it will work out...although it KILLS me that he simply refuses to post me up.
I thought you two were going to unfriend each other at the beginning there Laughing
 
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I thought you two were going to unfriend each other at the beginning there Laughing

Yeah... I'm normally pretty okay with whatever, but when he started in and I was like "Dude, for once I have to say 'Dont tell me how to play'" I was getting a bit on edge...
 
This is the douchebag we all know, right here, this type of response. Not only called what he linked garbage, likely because he doesn't agree with it, but he also pumps himself up as "a guy who knows a bit about this stuff." Never seen someone try sooooo hard to get people to think he's intellectual and smart. It's really weird. Add in his obsession with underage girls and it's just plain old creepy AF.
Pretty typical to not have any evidence at all either. @TheDude1 I'm always willing to learn, but you aren't going to sway anyone with statements like "as a guy who knows a bit about this stuff, I think I can safely roll my eyes at that a bit". Prove it then. Because the link I posted makes way more sense. Why would a party that has always been the one to champion civil rights suddenly decide to welcome a known racist group in with open arms. It makes more sense that Dems realized they needed to rid that monkey off their back to change their image, they saw an opportunity and took it.
 
Pretty typical to not have any evidence at all either. @TheDude1 I'm always willing to learn, but you aren't going to sway anyone with statements like "as a guy who knows a bit about this stuff, I think I can safely roll my eyes at that a bit". Prove it then. Because the link I posted makes way more sense. Why would a party that has always been the one to champion civil rights suddenly decide to welcome a known racist group in with open arms. It makes more sense that Dems realized they needed to rid that monkey off their back to change their image, they saw an opportunity and took it.
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TheDude1s display of addictive personality (can’t actually leave these topics) makes sense to me when you consider his educational background, fetish, and current job.
 
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Pretty much. He’s creepy AF.

I’ve seen people with addiction. They know gambling is wrong, but they still go to the casino. They know meth is wrong, but the still keep their dealers number. Etc.

They know having a fetish for underage looking girls is wrong.....
 
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Yes I did read it. Based on your comments, I don't think you did.

You said "there was an entire strategy to turn people who identified with the Democratic party into Republicans, and it succeeded, especially down south." Dems have tried to push the idea that the Dixiecrats turned Republican and therefore the Republicans are now the racists. This talks about how that just isn't true and in fact Malcolm X states that the Dems tried to "pass the buck" on to Republicans. Did you even listen to the audio clip?

I never said there wasn't anything such as a Dixiecrat. Nor did this article. It just states that the history that the Dems try to push that the Dixiecrats somehow became Republicans isn't really true.
I read it. TheDude1 is right: it's absolute bunk. That site is trash. I'm embarrassed for you that you would cite something so obviously skewed and agenda-driven.
 
This is the douchebag we all know, right here, this type of response. Not only called what he linked garbage, likely because he doesn't agree with it, but he also pumps himself up as "a guy who knows a bit about this stuff." Never seen someone try sooooo hard to get people to think he's intellectual and smart. It's really weird. Add in his obsession with underage girls and it's just plain old creepy AF.
No, it absolutely is garbage. It's a low quality right-wing site pushing their agenda at all costs. Agreeing w/ it is whatever. Citing it is ridiculous.
 
No, it absolutely is garbage. It's a low quality right-wing site pushing their agenda at all costs. Agreeing w/ it is whatever. Citing it is ridiculous.
You and @TheDude1 constantly post low quality extreme left wing nonsense that fits your agenda. Either he can do it and it’s not garbage or you’re admitting to citing garbage yourself. Me thinks it’s the latter.
 
You and @TheDude1 constantly post low quality extreme left wing nonsense that fits your agenda. Either he can do it and it’s not garbage or you’re admitting to citing garbage yourself. Me thinks it’s the latter.
If you mean my citations, you enthusiastically state that you refuse to read any of them (including last time, when I included links to articles supporting you), and no, I never post garbage. I post things I've vetted from reputable sources. If I ever post anything from blogs, I identify it as such and state that it is not objective, but has some other value.

If you mean our own words, you never actually address them. You dismiss them. And you routinely disparage us as high-falutin', which is pretty much the antithesis of low quality nonsense.

TheDude1 and I are academics and it's pretty obvious. I, for one, recognize the potential blindspots of that, but vetting sources and articulation are absolutely two strengths. It doesn't make me better than anyone or smarter than anyone, but it does speak to certain abilities.
 
If you mean my citations, you enthusiastically state that you refuse to read any of them (including last time, when I included links to articles supporting you), and no, I never post garbage. I post things I've vetted from reputable sources. If I ever post anything from blogs, I identify it as such and state that it is not objective, but has some other value.

If you mean our own words, you never actually address them. You dismiss them. And you routinely disparage us as high-falutin', which is pretty much the antithesis of low quality nonsense.

TheDude1 and I are academics and it's pretty obvious. I, for one, recognize the potential blindspots of that, but vetting sources and articulation are absolutely two strengths. It doesn't make me better than anyone or smarter than anyone, but it does speak to certain abilities.
Agree to disagree on all of this. Pure opinion. No facts.
 
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Agree to disagree on all of this. Pure opinion. No facts.
It's not really a factually quantifiable thing, so opinions are appropriate, but there are credible, well-supported opinions and then there's yours.

You disagree on "all of this"? Just "all of this"? Is that kind of like how Sarah Palin reads all the things? That kind of vague broadness w/o explanation or detail isn't a good look.

"All of this" would include that you did read the links I posted and they didn't support you. You should be able to cite a single measly thing as proof of that then.
 
I read it. TheDude1 is right: it's absolute bunk. That site is trash. I'm embarrassed for you that you would cite something so obviously skewed and agenda-driven.
Proof? The person cited two different historians. Prove them wrong.
 
It's not really a factually quantifiable thing, so opinions are appropriate, but there are credible, well-supported opinions and then there's yours.

You disagree on "all of this"? Just "all of this"? Is that kind of like how Sarah Palin reads all the things? That kind of vague broadness w/o explanation or detail isn't a good look.

"All of this" would include that you did read the links I posted and they didn't support you. You should be able to cite a single measly thing as proof of that then.
Funny. You don't agree with the article so you call it a right wing rag. Even though there's a clip of Malcolm X saying basically the same thing the article was getting at. Are you saying Malcolm X is a liar and pushing right wing agenda?
 
Funny. You don't agree with the article so you call it a right wing rag. Even though there's a clip of Malcolm X saying basically the same thing the article was getting at. Are you saying Malcolm X is a liar and pushing right wing agenda?


Very little has changed. The shame is that it was brought to their attention over 50 years ago and it never gained any ground in the black community despite the fact that these are two men who the black community champion. As they should. Candice Owens is a great example in today's society. Liberals have them brainwashed and are the true racists.
 
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Funny. You don't agree with the article so you call it a right wing rag. Even though there's a clip of Malcolm X saying basically the same thing the article was getting at. Are you saying Malcolm X is a liar and pushing right wing agenda?
I actually like the Malcolm X clip. I've very familiar with it. I take it as a cautionary note for white liberals: don't be an advocate & ally in words alone.

What that site has done with it is use it and the research of like-minded historians to further the writer's agenda.

To what would you attribute the GOP's struggles attracting people of color? Mass brainwashing? Diabolical schemes? Conspiracies? Jiggery pokery? Nefarious plots? The randomness of LBJ's being a Democrat and eternal devotion to his party ever after? All of those theories basically depend on denigrating the intelligence of poc.
 
I actually like the Malcolm X clip. I've very familiar with it. I take it as a cautionary note for white liberals: don't be an advocate & ally in words alone.

What that site has done with it is use it and the research of like-minded historians to further the writer's agenda.

To what would you attribute the GOP's struggles attracting people of color? Mass brainwashing? Diabolical schemes? Conspiracies? Jiggery pokery? Nefarious plots? The randomness of LBJ's being a Democrat and eternal devotion to his party ever after? All of those theories basically depend on denigrating the intelligence of poc.
Mass brainwashing. You called it.
 
I actually like the Malcolm X clip. I've very familiar with it. I take it as a cautionary note for white liberals: don't be an advocate & ally in words alone.

What that site has done with it is use it and the research of like-minded historians to further the writer's agenda.

To what would you attribute the GOP's struggles attracting people of color? Mass brainwashing? Diabolical schemes? Conspiracies? Jiggery pokery? Nefarious plots? The randomness of LBJ's being a Democrat and eternal devotion to his party ever after? All of those theories basically depend on denigrating the intelligence of poc.
You're right, Malcolm X and Muhammad Ali don't know what they are talking about. Seriously, they lived it and saw it. They obviously saw something happening that isn't being taught, or is being taught incorrectly. Just because something has been taught a certain way doesn't mean it was right. History is written by the victors and we all know that Liberals have had their mitts in education for a long time now. That's why some of the worst presidents in history are lauded as being so great in history class. First class garbage.

As long as we are bringing up LBJ, let's not forget this quote.

"These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don’t move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there’ll be no way of stopping them, we’ll lose the filibuster and there’ll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It’ll be Reconstruction all over again."

Sounds like LBJ may have signed the Civil Rights Act to gain votes of the black community to me.

I won't post the other quote he's potentially said because it's unsubstantiated, although the quote does sound like something he'd say.
 
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You're right, Malcolm X and Muhammad Ali don't know what they are talking about. Seriously, they lived it and saw it. They obviously saw something happening that isn't being taught, or is being taught incorrectly. Just because something has been taught a certain way doesn't mean it was right. History is written by the victors and we all know that Liberals have had their mitts in education for a long time now. That's why some of the worst presidents in history are lauded as being so great in history class. First class garbage.

As long as we are bringing up LBJ, let's not forget this quote.

"These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don’t move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there’ll be no way of stopping them, we’ll lose the filibuster and there’ll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It’ll be Reconstruction all over again."

Sounds like LBJ may have signed the Civil Rights Act to gain votes of the black community to me.

I won't post the other quote he's potentially said because it's unsubstantiated, although the quote does sound like something he'd say.
 
That's the one. Problem with that quote is it was reportedly said on Air Force One to two Senators and a person in the Air Force overheard the statement. There's no corroboration to his claim. It could be true, especially because it sounds like a few other things LBJ has said and done, but it's unverifiable.
 
That's the one. Problem with that quote is it was reportedly said on Air Force One to two Senators and a person in the Air Force overheard the statement. There's no corroboration to his claim. It could be true, especially because it sounds like a few other things LBJ has said and done, but it's unverifiable.
It's 2018. If the internet said it happened, it's verifiable.
 
Mass brainwashing. You called it.
Uh... no. I said that if that is your answer, it's basically disparaging the intelligence and competence of people of color.

Does any such brainwashing phenomenon exist on the right?
 
You're right, Malcolm X and Muhammad Ali don't know what they are talking about. Seriously, they lived it and saw it. They obviously saw something happening that isn't being taught, or is being taught incorrectly. Just because something has been taught a certain way doesn't mean it was right.
Where did I say that? I said I like and value what X said in that clip.

How much a fan of Malcolm X are you when he's talking about white devils and the use of violence where necessary? You have your sound clip and now you're pretending something he said in 1964 is the whole, eternal truth. (I notice you're using a present verb tense, as if they said these things yesterday.)

How much do you respect Ali's conscientious objection to military service based on his peaceful Muslim faith? I suspect you're using him when you can create your own context, but will turn around and call Islam inherently violent at the first opportunity. The irony of the right co-opting people they never supported to condemn the left. lol

History is written by the victors and we all know that Liberals have had their mitts in education for a long time now. That's why some of the worst presidents in history are lauded as being so great in history class. First class garbage.
It's logic, not conspiracy: education broadens minds and usually makes people more liberal. Liberals haven't perpetrated some surreptitious takeover of education; education naturally leans left.

I have no interest in your rankings of Presidents.

As long as we are bringing up LBJ, let's not forget this quote.
We weren't talking about LBJ, really, but that quote sounds very much in line with the current right-wing talking points about the so-called "race card," "personal responsibility," all lives matter, welfare queens, handouts, cultural problem, family problem, Chicago, referring to people of color as "breeders," slavery as a favor to black people, slavery as irrelevant today, cherry-picking a conservative quotation from a black person and touting it as Gospel, dismissing all claims of racism as an agenda when it comes from any non-conservative black person, denying privilege, denying institutional racism, denying ongoing white supremacy, so-called "black-on-black" crime, responding to complaints about racism w/ the idea that they could go back to Africa, and getting indignant that black people aren't quiet like X and Ali and MLK were by the time conservatives started quoting them.

Sounds like LBJ may have signed the Civil Rights Act to gain votes of the black community to me.
Are you saying black people are so stupid they've fallen for that en masse without any other reason to vote Democratic?

What have conservatives done since then for the black vote other than create the War on Drugs, gerrymander, and suppress their vote?

I won't post the other quote he's potentially said because it's unsubstantiated, although the quote does sound like something he'd say.
You'll comment on it when someone else does, though.

LBJ died in 1973. That's the same year President Nixon's Justice Dept sued real estate tycoon Donald J Trump for housing discrimination against people of color. Under President Ford, they sued again 3 years later. NJ fined his casino for racist practices in '92. He still thinks the Central Park 5 were guilty despite their convictions being overturned in 2002. And if you remember an LBJ quotation from 1973, perhaps you'll remember these gems from current President, Donald J Trump, in 2017:
"You also had some very fine people on both sides."
"I stand by my pardon of Sheriff Joe [Arpaio]."
"They are trying to take away our history and our heritage."
 
If we are being honest. Neither the right or the left really cares about black people because I don't think that either actually cares about anyone. It's a manipulative system that is designed to obtain votes and divide the public. What black people need to do is focus on policies. Socially speaking, things have improved for minorities at a faster rate than economically speaking. It can be argued that left has held them back economically with their policies all while making it seem as if they were helping them. I call this dirty politics just like it is dirty politics when the right fluffs the NRA or pretends to instill Christian values for votes. There are too many examples of political pandering to list, that's why people need to open their eyes and use their own heads. Stop letting others think for them and vote for the policies that are better for the people. Take a look at individual policies and weigh the pros and cons of the bad policies vs the good.
 
Sarcasm bro
I only quoted that b/c I couldn't quote your likes. You're alternating between attacking or supporting attacks on the left and claiming things about both sides. Where is any acknowledgement of examples* from the other side?

(*Edit: examples about race, I mean. You do mention the NRA and Christian pandering.)
 
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