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....as do you in actually staying on topic rather than troll/hijack every thread where "UK" is even mentioned.
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He was not the #TeenNumberDraftPick best player in college.
Cal didn't gift him height, didn't gift him reach, didn't gift him athleticism..
Potential and Talent, this kid had both long before Cal ever even offered.
Calipari gifted him an opportunity to earn play with other elite kids in an environment that was accessible and friendly for the NBA to keep tabs on. And Cal is an excellent coach. This post isn't to bash anyone at Kentucky.
The program gifted him great tools and coaches which this kid took advantage of and used them alongside his natural abilities to ball-out on the big stage.
Good on him.
Did Kentucky help this kid? Absolutely.
Is Calipari the reason this kid is in the NBA (or even went in the lottery) year one? Highly debatable.
More impressive than getting a #35 recruit drafted in the lotto, year one; getting an unranked kid drafted within 2 or 3 spots of the lotto, year one.
(Same Draft, so no snotty tears whine-os.)
It comes down to the same foundation- a great talent with length, great athleticism and when given a (great) opportunity the kid took advantage.
Donovan Mitchell was a 4 star recruit. He should have won rookie of the year. I don't get this overhype of SGA. I mean the kid is good, but why keep bringing up the 4 star to the lotto bs? I'll wait to see how good he is his rook season.
^ People are high on SGA because of 1) size/length, 2) feel/vision, and most importantly 3) Jerry West. Jerry loves him, so NBA writers/analysts love him, so plebs like us love him.
Haven’t you heard???? SGA is the GREATEST success story in the history of sports. I’m so thankful to have been alive to witness such a miracle.
It has to rank up there with Moses parting the Red Sea & Jesus walking on water.
Not a good look for Self and staff.
That said Self would have to be the dumbest coach to know directly about paying a player in Preston. Sitting him for the whole season because caught. Then taking on another player who he knows got paid and playing him on mop up minutes for 80% of the time he is there at KU. That just doesn't make sense.
That said Self would have to be the dumbest coach to know directly about paying a player in Preston. Sitting him for the whole season because caught. Then taking on another player who he knows got paid and playing him on mop up minutes for 80% of the time he is there at KU. That just doesn't make sense.
What else should one expect from a slow, short, unathletic PG?Laughing
This won't happen, as the NCAA has a tarnished reputation under Emmert. It is a question being asked by many national sports writers though.
Meh, not really. Zach Collins was rated a 4* by ESPN and Scout. THough a 5* by Rivals and 247. Picked 10th in 2017.
Marquesse Chriss was a 4*, selected 8th in the 2016 Draft
Cameron Payne was a 3* out of Murray State. Selected 14th in the 2015 draft...
Didn't have to work hard at all. And i only went back 3 years.
Note: Just realized Payne was a Soph. Thought he decalred as a freshman. Bust still. A non, Top 100 kid, in the lottery---after 2 years. About on the level as the 34th rated player going as a freshman.
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Calipari is the only one doing this Borden. The man is a fcking legend. He doesn’t just roll the ball out, he does a crossover, behind the back pass to himself, then gently rolls it out.
I'm just saying Cal takes a beating for not winning more titles with "all the NBA talent he has had", but he doesn't get credit for player development. I don't care what you or anyone else says, Cal had a lot to do with SGA going in the lottery. He didn't just "roll the balls out" and tell Shai to figure it out. Yes, Shai has the physical tools, but coaching was one of the ingredients that got him there.
I agree with you there. Mitchell is incredible.
The SGA stuff went much farther than I intended it to go. I didn't expect such a fight on it. I brought it up and have had to defend it ever since.
And people wonder why the thread got so far out of hand. It's stupid posts like this that caused it.
I never said SGA was any of those things.
You're a ridiculous poster. I've tried to be nice and post respectfully to you, but you don't know how to post with respect. No wonder you get a bunch of sh*t from UK fans where you live. You're the common denominator.
Well, I'm done talking about it. It's derailed the thread enough. I simply made a reference to a 4* that went lottery and I still contend it was great player development and some extreme hard work by the kid.
I still say it's a rare occurrence and extremely tough to do.
Now I'm done talking about it. Especially now that there appears to be a list of players that should be deemed ineligible.
Here's another one:
Zach LaVine(UCLA). 4*....13th pick. 2013
And another one.......
Tyrus Thomas, LSU----A THREE STAR....Selected 4th overall.
I mean , Jeff. It hasn't been that hard, brother..
You never once, until now, mentioned this; Hard work by the kid. The whole time you were pumping Cal, and getting SGA drafted.
Oh, and in case you missed it---I found two more:
Zach Lavine and Tyrus Thomas...Winking
Meeting with an AAU representative/sponsor is very common especially to go over recruits the schools are interested in. Gassnola later came out and said that Gatto and the other ADIDAS guys on trial created plans to conceal the payments from the coaches and universities. Tomorrow we will see if more info comes out about Self's meeting with Gassnola. At the moment it was just a meeting to help with recruiting which happens everywhere in recruiting. Using high school, AAU, and family to influence decisions is normal. The question is did Self and staff know that money was used to influence the decision. We may or may not find out in the next couple weeks.
Self knew adidas paid recruits but played de Sousa and not Preston. What’s the logic there?
Yep. Suppose to go more in depth tomorrow on the behind the scenes of the payments.
All the great coaches do. UK fans had always said and rightfully so that Dean should have more titles. Don't get upset when other fan bases do the same to your coach, it comes with the territory.
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