Yes, I'll agree, that's damn good coaching.
But I don't think some of you realize how big of a deal it is for a 4* high school kid to go in the lottery after 1 college season. To me that's incredible.
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But I don't think some of you realize how big of a deal it is for a 4* high school kid to go in the lottery after 1 college season. To me that's incredible.
Want me to name some 5* O&D players that were drafted higher than Bradley & also played in the G league?
Looks to me like you're the one that originally moved the goalposts. Here is the first post in which Shai Alexander was brought up. I clearly stated that he was a 4* that went lottery. This is post #131:
This is the post where you moved the goalposts. You're the one that stated "OAD". This is post #133.
I never said OAD, I said Lottery from the start.
I'll name another 4*, IF....you'll name me another Top ranked player(As in #1), that didn't go in the lottery.
I think you are putting waaaaay to much into this, Jeff. He was a fringe 5* player. In other words---highly regarded. There is a difference in a being a 4*, rated 34th. Than a 4* who's ranked 105th.
I mean , this. When you are getting multiple, Top 10 kids, year after year after year..Well, I mean, you;re going to have a lot of guys in the NBA. He does a terrific job selling this. BUT...he does put his kids in a position to showcase their skills. And TBH, I think at times, that has hurt(him).
Anyways..Really good coach. Great recruiter. I'd take him.
What does a #1 recruit missing the lottery have to do with it? That's a totally different topic.
You might not think a 4* going lottery is a big deal, but I and many others do. That just doesn't happen very often and it takes a good coach to get a player to that level.
8th. As rare as it may be in hoops, it's kind of the opposite in football. How often do you see 3-stars and below blow up and become NFL studs? Pretty often. Then again, there are a ton more kids playing football and it's impossible for all of them to get fairly evaluated in HS.
You may not think the overall #1 player not going in the lottery is a big deal, but I and many others do. That just doesn't happen very often.
See my point now?
Again, SGA was rated 34th....Percentages from being a 5*. You are acting as if SGA was some bottom 100 player. He was not.
Then why recruit him? If he is a slow, unathletic, short player---Why recruit him? Why was he a 5*? See, when a 5* at UK "falters" its because, "oh, he wasn't that good...Overrated...to short...to slow....Etc, etc...But....But....when a kid like SGA, a highly rated 4*, is taken in the lottery----Yep, its all Cal. Cal turned him into a lottery pick.
Why couldn't he do that with Skal? Sure didn't need to make him taller.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ya...-to-potential-nba-lottery-pick-221737745.html
This kid was a 3* recruit & not ranked in the top 100. He played 2 years at Murray St.
he was drafted 14th
This kid was a 3* recruit & not ranked in the top 100. He played 2 years at Murray St.
he was drafted 14th
Isn't it obvious why Green was recruited? Because Cal needs at least 1 new PG nearly every season and Green happened to be one of the best available, it was either him or Young and Young waited too long to decide, so it was Green and SGA. Who said Green has faltered? After his injury when SGA took over the point Green moved over to the 2 a lot of the time and played great, as undersized as he was. He was solid for UK last year and I expect him to play a huge role this season.
He was a 2* by 247. Everyone knows Murray State is an NBA factory.
@kyjeff1 might change his name to Murraystatejeff1.He was a 2* by 247. Everyone knows Murray State is an NBA factory.
not to mention there are 10 times the amount of 3 stars as they are 5 stars in FB
a lot of kids fall through the cracks in FB, like you said they are just too many to evaluate all of them
we have a 2 star that could be a top 10 pick
How about Morehead State product Kenneth Faried? 2* by 247, barely in the top 1000 and not even on the Rivals and ESPN radars. 1st round pick in 2011, now in his 8th year in the league.
right now he is the highest rated edge rusher in CFB
just have to wait and see how the year plays out
i think if he has a great game against UGA he will crack top 10
Trying to catch up here. Did Dick Vitale tweet about UNC or UK?
I was reading about the trial, now this.
I was reading about the trial, now this.
Yeah, I know, but we'll see. It's just super rare for those guys to go that high unless they are absolute super freaks.
Couldn’t have been about UNC, UNC doesn’t cheat.
If somehow uofl ends up the only program getting dinged from this after they’ve already had a postseason ban, fired a Hall of fame coach and vacated a title...man.
Even though I’m a uk I’m also a lifetime resident of Louisville and I gotta say, this is a sports town and this all stings a little. It’s depressing.
Regardless of what happens I think the basketball team will recover. But how long it takes depends on what further action the NCAA takes.
Even though I’m a uk I’m also a lifetime resident of Louisville and I gotta say, this is a sports town and this all stings a little. It’s depressing.
Regardless of what happens I think the basketball team will recover. But how long it takes depends on what further action the NCAA takes.
Regardless, uofl will get hit the hardest. 2 major infractions occurred. They're staring at the death penalty. If the NCAA wants to remain the NCAA, then they'll have to hit the teams hard. Otherwise I just don't see how that organization survives.
There’s two more trials after this one, the NCAA will have many teams to discipline. As for the Louisville ordeal, schools have been hammered in the past for this, but none have already cleaned house before the latest allegations were found. We’ll see, this is unprecedented.
No, I'm certainly not acting like he was a sub 100 recruit.
Bottom line is it doesn't happen very often and it takes some serious player development to make that happen.
I'm not exaggerating anything. You really have to work hard to find anyone else that has done it.
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Is 14th still lottery?
Again, Shai went lottery after 1 year. Goal posts never moved, you just keep missing.
Tyler went pro after year 2, Green is just now entering his 2nd year. So he is being consistent.
Either you’re 8 years old or female. There are 14 teams in the NBA lottery, try knowing about what you’re arguing about because you kinda suck at it.
Blame Calipari. Not even part of the OP, but boss enough to command attention.
why did UL fire Jurich, Pitino and the assistant coaches
they were not fired because of whoregate
BTW, when a school gets caught paying players the coaches always get fired
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They got fired for accumulating scandals, and the coaches weren’t the only ones fired.
I asked you a question ("Is 14th still lottery?"). Kind of an odd response to a question. For whatever reason I thought it was 12.
Still, the fact that several people in this thread are having a tough time even finding 3 guys that have gone lottery from 4* status after 1 season in college ball tells me it's pretty freaking tough to do. You can disagree with me if you want, you would be wrong, but you can still disagree.
one of those scandals was the FBI probe that named UL assistant coaches
they were not going to be fired after all the other scandals, as a matter of fact they were not fired until the FBI scandal
you can throw that "they are fired" argument out the window
it does not matter
He actually said “I could give a shit about North Carolina right now.” I don’t think how he said it reaches the level of an exclamation point, but that’s just me.
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