College Basketball Draft

[dukedevilz]

Hi all,

Looking to see if there is interest in getting a College Basketball Draft started again. Would love to have 10-16 posters this year. Here is the thread from last year, for reference.

Let me know ITT if you have any interests. I'm tagging the posters from last year, as well as some others that I think might be interested. But certainly all are welcome.

@BigBlueFanGA @bignish @ThePhog08 @Danger 35 Zone @imajericho @IrishInOntario @LetsGoDuke301 @Mgkcbb @WojoRising @schoonerwest @hailtoyourvictor @WeAreDePaul @GE Nole @lurkeraspect84 @duckboy33

 

[WojoRising]

I’m in!

 

[WeAreDePaul]

I'm in if there's a space. Just read the old thread, looks like fun.

 

[dukedevilz]

Absolutely! Hopefully we'll have a full roster of posters before the end of the week.. and maybe we can begin drafting next week.

Last year, I used win shares & postseason accolades to get a composite score. I'm open to refining the scoring system, though, if anyone wants to input. Here are the final results from last season:

edit: Here's how I had the initial scoring system for the postseason awards. But we can certainly revise these numbers, and include additional awards, if there is enough support.

10 points- National Player of the Year (AP for All-American Teams)
9 points- 1st Team All-American
8 points- 2nd Team All-American
7 points- 3rd Team All-American; NABC Defensive POY
6 points- Honorable Mention All-American
5 points- Conference Player of the Year
4 points- 1st Team All-Conference; Conference Defensive POY
3 points- 2nd Team All-Conference
2 points- 3rd Team All-Conference; All-Conference Defense
1 point- Honorable Mention All-Conference

 

[Big_C_KU]

 

[Scotty00]

Me, me...pick me!!!

 

[dukedevilz]

Me, me...pick me!!!

Awesome! Already up to 5 owners/general mangers.

Still room for plenty more.

 

[Matt Laurer]

Not interested but I am willing to share a little advice. If you want to win, make sure you draft:

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[Spacegrass]

Money involved?

 

[dukedevilz]

Money involved?

I don't think so. Is that a common thing on these boards?

 

[Spacegrass]

I don't think so. Is that a common thing on these boards?

FFB it is.

 

[dukedevilz]

If putting money into this league interests people, I suppose we could go that route. I don't know how the whole setup would work, however.

 

[jhmossy]

If putting money into this league interests people, I suppose we could go that route. I don't know how the whole setup would work, however.

I've organized money for March Madness in the past. I just have people PayPal me the money and keep it until the tournament is over. We do the same thing with @Da_Bull for fantasy football. These people trust us with money. I'm Jewish and he's a degenerate gambler so you should be fine.

 

[GE Nole]

I’ll join. Is every possible college player available, or just ones from the P7 (P5, plus Big East and Mountain West) and Gonzaga?

 

[Mgkcbb]

I will do this again this year but only in a free league. Not interested in a money league.

 

[ThroughBlue]

Add me in

 

[dukedevilz]

I’ll join. Is every possible college player available, or just ones from the P7 (P5, plus Big East and Mountain West) and Gonzaga?

Yep. Every possible player is available. I had Mike Daum (South Dakota State) and John Konchar (Fort Wayne) on my team last year, for example.

Bringing postseason accolades into the equation makes it a little more challenging for mid-major players to be rewarded, as they're rarely going to make an All-American team (Jock Landale was a nice exception last year). But if they're a sure-fire 1st Team All-Conference player, they're probably worth a pick or two in the middle-late rounds.

 

[dukedevilz]

Okay, we're up to 8 owners now. Hoping to get at least 10... I might be able to recruit a few from some other boards if need be.

If anyone is intimidated by trying to find a composite list of players, here are a few rankings:

The Big Lead's Top 50 Players

Three Man Weave's Top 100 Players

Also, I posted my top 100 players a few weeks ago:

Here's my top 100:

1. Dedric Lawson, Kansas
2. RJ Barrett, Duke
3. Tremont Waters, LSU
4. Luke Maye, UNC
5. Caleb Martin, Nevada
6. Cassius Winston, Michigan State
7. Reid Travis, Kentucky
8. Killian Tillie, Gonzaga
9. Carsen Edwards, Purdue
10. Payron Pritchard, Oregon
11. Tyus Battle, Syracuse
12. Ethan Happ, Wisconsin
13. Mike Daum, South Dakota State
14. Sagaba Konate, West Virginia
15. Shamorie Ponds, St.John's
16. Grant Williams, Tennessee
17. Cody Martin, Nevada
18. Zach Norvell, Gonzaga
19. Grant Williams, Tennessee
20. Bennie Boatwright, USC
21. Nassir Little, UNC
22. Cam Reddish, Duke
23. Markus Howard, Marquette
24. Bol Bol, Oregon
25. Eric Paschall, Villanova
26. Dean Wade, Kansas State
27. Ky Bowman, Boston College
28. Quentin Grimes, Kansas
29. Charles Matthews, Michigan
30. Jalen Hudson, Florida
31. Austin Wiley, Auburn
32. De'Andre Hunter, Virginia
33. Phil Booth, Villanova
34. Kamar Baldwin, Butler
35. Anthony Cowan, Maryland
36. Kyle Guy, Virginia
37. Keldon Johnson, Kentucky
38. Daniel Gafford, Arkansas
39. Udoka Azubuike, Kansas
40. Justin Robinson, Virginia Tech
41. Emmitt Williams, LSU
42. James Palmer Jr, Nebraska
43. Admiral Schofield, Tennessee
44. Romeo Langford, Indiana
45. Rui Hachimura, Gonzaga
46. Jordan Murphy, Minnesota
47. Clayton Custer, Loyola Chicago
48. D'Marcus Simonds, Georgia State
49. Lindell Wigginton, Iowa State
50. Jordan Caroline, Nevada
51. Juwan Morgan, Indiana
52. Marcquiese Reed, Clemson
53. Tres Tinkle, Oregon State
54. Barry Brown, Kansas State
55. Zion Williamson, Duke
56. Jon Elmore, Marshall
57. Quinndary Weatherspoon, Miss State
58. Nick Ward, Michigan State
59. PJ Washington, Kentucky
60. Terrance Mann, Florida State
61. Brandon Clarke, Gonzaga
62. Ashton Hagans, Kentucky
63. Jessie Govan, Georgetown
64. Simi Shittu, Vanderbilt
65. Remy Martin, Arizona State
66. Josh Perkins, Gonzaga
67. Kellan Grady, Davidson
68. Ty Jerome, Virginia
69. LaGerald Vick, Kansas
70. Joe Cremo, Villanova
71. CJ Bryce, NC State
72. Bruno Fernando, Maryland
73. Darius Garland, Vanderbilt
74. Jontay Porter, Missouri
75. KJ Lawson, Kansas
76. Charles Bassey, Western Kentucky
77. Kris Wilkes, UCLA
78. Nazreon Reid, LSU
79. KeVaughn Allen, Florida
80. Tre Jones, Duke
81. Nickeil Alexander-Walker, Virginia Tech
82. Matt Coleman, Texas
83. Bryce Brown, Auburn
84. Lamonte Turner, Tennessee
85. Jaylen Hands, UCLA
86. Sam Hauser, Marquette
87. Shelton Mitchell, Clemson
88. Mike Watkins, Penn State
89. McKinley Wright, Colorado
90. Yoeli Childs, BYU
91. Dewan Huell, Miami
92. CJ Jackson, Ohio State
93. Jared Harper, Auburn
94. Desmond Bane, TCU
95. Aric Holman, Miss State
96. Jaylen Fischer, TCU
97. TJ Gibbs, Notre Dame
98. Xavier Sneed, Kansas State
99. Oshae Brissett, Syracuse
100. Jaylen Nowell, Washington


Edit: I find myself frequently revising along the way (often switching the rankings of players). Just noticed that I put Grant Williams at #16 and #19, which means I probably left off a very significant player... wonder who that was.

 

[jhmossy]

I’m in this year. Thanks for organizing this.

 

[dukedevilz]

9 owners now... probably wait til the end of the week to see if there is any more interest. And then we can begin drafting next week.

The draft, of course, will be a snake draft. Last year, we had 8 rounds. But I'm kind of interested in expanding it to 10 rounds. Thoughts?

 

[LetsGoDuke301]

I got way too much going on right now. Won't be joining this year.

 

[GE Nole]

9 owners now... probably wait til the end of the week to see if there is any more interest. And then we can begin drafting next week.

The draft, of course, will be a snake draft. Last year, we had 8 rounds. But I'm kind of interested in expanding it to 10 rounds. Thoughts?

I’m assuming there’s no switching up “starters and bench players” on a weekly basis like regular fantasy, right? You just draft a guy and hold them for the whole year?

If that’s the case, I think 8 rounds makes more sense. More realistic of a real team.

 

[dukedevilz]

I’m assuming there’s no switching up “starters and bench players” on a weekly basis like regular fantasy, right? You just draft a guy and hold them for the whole year?

If that’s the case, I think 8 rounds makes more sense. More realistic of a real team.

Yeah, everybody accounts for the total points. So essentially everyone is a starter... 8 rounds might be the way to go, as I think some people start to get draft fatigue. Anyone else want to weigh in on this?

Also, last year I should note that nobody seemed to want any replacement players - in case of a suspension (Josh Okogie) or a season-ending injury (Michael Porter)... But I'm also open to have replacements, where you could prorate the points.

 

[GE Nole]

Yeah, everybody accounts for the total points. So essentially everyone is a starter... 8 rounds might be the way to go, as I think some people start to get draft fatigue. Anyone else want to weigh in on this?

Also, last year I should note that nobody seemed to want any replacement players - in case of a suspension (Josh Okogie) or a season-ending injury (Michael Porter)... But I'm also open to have replacements, where you could prorate the points.

Personally, I’d say suspensions and injuries are part of the game. But I’m open to other thoughts.

 

[Big_C_KU]

Personally, I’d say suspensions and injuries are part of the game. But I’m open to other thoughts.

Yep. You draft a player who gets suspended or Hurt then you're SOL.

EDIT: The only way replacements players would work for me is if you went 10 rounds. You designate who your top 8 are by a certain date before the season in the thread so those top 8 are locked in. Your 2 alternates are only available should one of your 8 miss more than 50% of the regular season due to injuries, suspension, or eligibility.

 

[dukedevilz]

Yep. You draft a player who gets suspended or Hurt then you're SOL.

EDIT: The only way replacements players would work for me is if you went 10 rounds. You designate who your top 8 are by a certain date before the season in the thread so those top 8 are locked in. Your 2 alternates are only available should one of your 8 miss more than 50% of the regular season due to injuries, suspension, or eligibility.

That seems fairly sensible. I like it.

 

[WeAreDePaul]

Yep. You draft a player who gets suspended or Hurt then you're SOL.

EDIT: The only way replacements players would work for me is if you went 10 rounds. You designate who your top 8 are by a certain date before the season in the thread so those top 8 are locked in. Your 2 alternates are only available should one of your 8 miss more than 50% of the regular season due to injuries, suspension, or eligibility.

I like this idea as well. I'm sure I'll be the guy on here who has a reserve player doing well and then I spend the whole season openly cheering for one of my bums to get hurt or get caught #metoo'ing somebody.

 

[dukedevilz]

Need one more owner. Any takers? Hoping to start drafting early next week.

 

[WojoRising]

Yeah, a big thanks to OP for organizing this. Thank God there aren’t more people like me or we’d have a lot less fun things

 

[Big_C_KU]

How many people we up to?

 

[IUfanBorden]

I'd like to...But can't. Rules are rules...

 

[Scotty00]

Hate to jump out man but I’m not gonna have time to do it. Got a lot going on with my mowing business right now and between that and my dispatching job I’m not gonna have the time. Sorry man!

 

[WeAreDePaul]

Looking at last year's thread how about we do away with the alphabetical draft order and have a random order? Or do reverse alphabetical order since you did alphabetical order.

I'm only saying this because I feel Wojorising got screwed last year and I don't want to see that happen again. Has nothing to do with my name also starting with a W if that's what you're thinking...

 

[dukedevilz]

you did alphabetical order.

I'm only saying this because I feel Wojorising got screwed last year and I don't want to see that happen again. Has nothing to do with my name also starting with a W if that's what you're thinking

I was planning on doing reverse alphabetical order this season, yes.

With Scotty dropping out, we're down to 8 owners now. I'm going to try and recruit on a few boards.

 

[WojoRising]

Looking at last year's thread how about we do away with the alphabetical draft order and have a random order? Or do reverse alphabetical order since you did alphabetical order.

I'm only saying this because I feel Wojorising got screwed last year and I don't want to see that happen again. Has nothing to do with my name also starting with a W if that's what you're thinking...

I’ve finished Top 3 every season though

 

[sdsufan10]

I'd be in, where would we draft?

 

[dukedevilz]

I'd be in, where would we draft?

We would just do it here on the message boards. I'll probably create a new thread for the actual draft. Let me know if you have any questions.

 

[dukedevilz]

Okay, looks like we're up to 10 owners now. Before we start the actual draft, I just want to check in with everyone and see if there are any lingering questions... I'm going to start a new thread for the draft so we don't have to sort through the first 40 messages on here.

Last year, we sped the draft up by including a 24-hour clock. Once 24 hours has expired, the person drafting behind you is allowed to make their desired selection. I would like to limit it to only one skip for the first 24 hours. After 48 hours, I'm okay with 7-10 owners making their picks (or however many it takes) skipping ahead of the stalled pick.

As mentioned earlier in this thread, we're going to have 10 rounds, but we'll need owners to lock in on an 8-man rotation before the start of the season. The last two rounds of the draft allow for an insurance in case of an injury or suspension to one of your core 8 players.

Last year the draft order was alphabetical order, so we'll go in reverse order this time. It will be a snake draft, so it will look like this:

Round 1 (and every odd round):
1. @WojoRising
2. @WeAreDePaul
3. @ThroughBlue
4. @sdsufan10
5. @Mgkcbb
6. @jwill133
7. @jhmossy
8. @GE Nole
9. dukedevilz
10. @Big_C_KU

Round 2 (and every even round):
11. Big_C_KU
12. dukedevilz
13. GE Nole
14. jhmossy
15. jwill133
16. Mgkcbb
17. sdsufan10
18. ThroughBlue
19. WeAreDePaul
20. WojoRising

 

[dukedevilz]

Looking at last year's thread how about we do away with the alphabetical draft order and have a random order? Or do reverse alphabetical order since you did alphabetical order.

I'm only saying this because I feel Wojorising got screwed last year and I don't want to see that happen again. Has nothing to do with my name also starting with a W if that's what you're thinking...

Wojo did pretty well for himself in the draft, actually. He had the last pick in the first round, where he selected Jalen Brunson, who turned out to be the MVP according the scoring system. And he got Jevon Carter with the 1st pick in the 2nd round. It's really hard to project how good these kids will be. Off the top of my head, I can name at least 3 All-Americans that weren't selected in our draft last year - Trae Young, Keita Bates-Diop, and Luke Maye.

 

[jwill133]

When will the draft be starting?