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Avenatti on Duke

KU fan wants so badly for someone else to be cheating as badly as KU did. Lol

Nah. You guys badly want to believe that you’re the only power 5 not cheating though.Laughing

Let’s be candid for a second. Tell me...with everything you’ve gathered to this point about shoe companies and the FBI investigation, do you truly believe that Nike hasn’t paid any of the 600 NBA players that Cal has had?
 
Why did we stop getting top 5 recruits after 2015?

From 2010-2015 we had three #1 picks and 13 lottery picks and every player that stayed more than 1 year played in a final four. There is literally ZERO reason we stopped getting the elite of the elite except that other schools started payimg and we didn't.

Since 2015, duke has had ZERO #1 picks, 7 lottery picks (almost half what we had in the previous 5 years) and has only been to one final four.

So what has made them the "hot" school? Money. That's what.
Any proof?
 
Nah. You guys badly want to believe that you’re the only power 5 not cheating though.Laughing

Let’s be candid for a second. Tell me...with everything you’ve gathered to this point about shoe companies and the FBI investigation, do you truly believe that Nike hasn’t paid any of the 600 NBA players that Cal has had?
No, we want to be proven guilty instead of some loudmouth assclown making assumptions because his school has been blatantly cheating for years. At least provide something that indicates UK is cheating. At this point, I'd believe creepy porn lawyer if he said it. You have less credibility than that guy. Let that sink in.
 
Nah. You guys badly want to believe that you’re the only power 5 not cheating though.Laughing

Let’s be candid for a second. Tell me...with everything you’ve gathered to this point about shoe companies and the FBI investigation, do you truly believe that Nike hasn’t paid any of the 600 NBA players that Cal has had?
Any actual proof?
 
Any proof that Self is a cheater, btw? I see that word thrown in his direction a lot, but I haven’t seen any proof yet.
Again. Any proof to what you are saying about UK or any other University?
 
Again. Any proof to what you are saying about UK or any other University?

Nope. It’s called common sense. The same thing we use to infer that Self knew that Gassnola was landing commitments through financial means.

Apparently it’s something you don’t have?
 
No, we want to be proven guilty instead of some loudmouth assclown making assumptions because his school has been blatantly cheating for years. At least provide something that indicates UK is cheating. At this point, I'd believe creepy porn lawyer if he said it. You have less credibility than that guy. Let that sink in.

You and your sidekick Jeff always act like I’m on an island here. Open our ****ing eyes. I’m one of about 30 on this forum alone who are saying it.

And where is proof of KU cheating at all, much less “for years?” Would it be the sworn testimony that Self was NOT involved? The hypocrisy and lack of rational thought is truly impressive.
 
Nope. It’s called common sense. The same thing we use to infer that Self knew that Gassnola was landing commitments through financial means.

Apparently it’s something you don’t have?
Cool. You have nothing except innuendo and rumor and then think you have common sense.

And the kids that have sat out and left KU and the rumors around them. They are false, but the UK ones are just common sense.

Are you this stupid in real life?
 
Cool. You have nothing except innuendo and rumor and then think you have common sense.

And the kids that have sat out and left KU and the rumors around them. They are false, but the UK ones are just common sense.

Are you this stupid in real life?

I haven’t once denied that KU players were paid by Adidas or that Self knew. You’re just too ******ed to see that.
 
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So you’ve chosen the “continue burying my head because CBB is my life” option. Big surprise.

Let’s just deal with facts then. Your HC coached cheating players at his previous two schools. Your school has been involved in several scandals by different staffs. One of your past coaches was confirmed to be paying players. Some of Cal’s players were confirmed to have taken money from agents. It’s confirmed that Nike is paying top players to go to its top brands. Cal has had twice as many NBA players as anyone but K.

But sure, pal...it’s highly likely that Kentucky is the only “clean” program. RollLaugh
None of what you just said pertains to anything going on right now.

So when you were 10 years old and you were with a couple of kids that stole some candy from the local grocery store, you were a thief and should still be labeled a thief.

That's exactly what you are saying about Calipari. Camby took money from an agent, something that was proven Cal didn't know about, so that makes him a cheater???

The NCAA cleared Rose....twice. Cal played him, then the NCAA came back after the season and decided to change their minds, that means Calipari is a cheater??? I don't follow you.

But again, none of that crap has anything to do with what is happening today.

So what scandals are you referring to with regards to UK basketball? You talking about whatever happened under Eddie Sutton? Yeah, that matters.

Or are you talking about the point shaving scandal from the 40's? Yeah, that matters.

You're just going off at the mouth because your school is under the microscope. Why don't you wait until something comes out on UK and/or Duke before you continue making a fool of yourself?

If cheating is happening the way you say it is, proof will surface, but until then, you just look like a Louisville fan flailing away while your program gets exposed for what they are.

My head isn't in any sand, I just choose to not accuse people of cheating without something telling me there is something going on? Who does that?
 
No, we want to be proven guilty instead of some loudmouth assclown making assumptions.

Does this mean that in the quote below, you are the loudmouth assclown making assumptions?

They were clearly stacking the deck against those schools by pushing the elite talent to a few. In Nike's case, it was Duke.

I am not calling you a loudmouth assclown. But you seem okay with making assumptions about Nike pushing players towards Duke with nothing but the word of a proven liar to go by. But when it is someone making assumptions about Kentucky, they're a loudmouth assclown.
 
Does this mean that in the quote below, you are the loudmouth assclown making assumptions?



I am not calling you a loudmouth assclown. But you seem okay with making assumptions about Nike pushing players towards Duke with nothing but the word of a proven liar to go by. But when it is someone making assumptions about Kentucky, they're a loudmouth assclown.
So you're saying creepy porn lawyer is lying about Nike paying Zion's mom? That's what he says. Has he said anything about UK up to this point?
 
Nah. You guys badly want to believe that you’re the only power 5 not cheating though.Laughing

Let’s be candid for a second. Tell me...with everything you’ve gathered to this point about shoe companies and the FBI investigation, do you truly believe that Nike hasn’t paid any of the 600 NBA players that Cal has had?
The only thing we know for sure is that Kansas has been involved with a felon working for Adidas and that some Kansas players have been paid and Kansas and Bill Self is in trouble with the NCAA. That we know for sure. Everything else is speculation.
 
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None of what you just said pertains to anything going on right now.

So when you were 10 years old and you were with a couple of kids that stole some candy from the local grocery store, you were a thief and should still be labeled a thief.

That's exactly what you are saying about Calipari. Camby took money from an agent, something that was proven Cal didn't know about, so that makes him a cheater???

The NCAA cleared Rose....twice. Cal played him, then the NCAA came back after the season and decided to change their minds, that means Calipari is a cheater??? I don't follow you.

But again, none of that crap has anything to do with what is happening today.

So what scandals are you referring to with regards to UK basketball? You talking about whatever happened under Eddie Sutton? Yeah, that matters.

Or are you talking about the point shaving scandal from the 40's? Yeah, that matters.

You're just going off at the mouth because your school is under the microscope. Why don't you wait until something comes out on UK and/or Duke before you continue making a fool of yourself?

If cheating is happening the way you say it is, proof will surface, but until then, you just look like a Louisville fan flailing away while your program gets exposed for what they are.

My head isn't in any sand, I just choose to not accuse people of cheating without something telling me there is something going on? Who does that?

The past is relevant. Why should we give Kentucky the benefit of the doubt in the present if they have a shady past?

I’ve linked to video of AAU coaches detailing how all the top players are steered and paid (which of course you ignored). The poster turintumbar (or whatever) has posted many times about his own experiences with friends who were paid to be benchwarmers at programs like Nebraska and K-State.

“Proof” is not guaranteed to surface, by any means.

Again, it’s axiomatic that if Nike is paying top players to attend its top schools, the flagship school that has had the most top players probably ain’t getting them for free. But that requires being able to calculate 1+1.
 
So you're saying creepy porn lawyer is lying about Nike paying Zion's mom? That's what he says. Has he said anything about UK up to this point?

No...but Gassnola has. Are you saying he was lying in his private conversation with Self?
 
Calipari is hated by the media? It takes skill to be wrong this often.
How stupid can you be?
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No...but Gassnola has. Are you saying he was lying in his private conversation with Self?
I'm saying it was speculation from somebody who has not provided any facts whatsoever. Meanwhile Porn guy has posted a 41 page pdf with dollar amounts, transactions, dates, text message screenshots, etc. One of those is substantial, the other is opinion. You choose what you want to believe and I'll do the same.
 
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Bill Self mentioned in one of his wire tapped calls “that’s how it works at Duke and North carolina”
No mention of Kentucky

Avenatti?? Tweets about Zions mom and her consulting fee. What would Nike need her to consult on? There might be a serious answer to that as I don’t know her history or education level etc etc...

Avenatti tweets about other schools like UNLV and 2-3 others, but again, no mention of Kentucky.

Zions mom is living in a $700,000 house this year not far from campus. She wasn’t living that large last year. We’ve all known about her living in that house all season. Not to mention the job his dad got, which to be honest, I can’t recall what it is right now. I don’t believe it was against any rule but giving unqualified people jobs, most likely with a good payout is shady. Wonder why he got that job...

Has any player under Calipari had their parents living in a house like that? Not even Eric Bledsoe’s family went from homeless to $700K house.

All these fans have been clamoring about Cal since the day he was hired. Yet, Kentucky isn’t mentioned in anything or by anyone. Evidence continues to pile up of other programs doing/being shady but there continues to be no mention of Kentucky.

College basketball is a shady business, it’s obvious. Cal knows who has asked for handouts and has backed off of their recruitment plenty of times. If a player ended up at Kentucky that received a payment, I don’t think Calipari would have a clue about it. Say I’m defending him all you want but I’ve got plenty of post since his choke job against Auburn wanting to move on from him.
 
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Bill Self mentioned in one of his wire tapped calls “that’s how it works at Duke and North carolina”
No mention of Kentucky

Avenatti?? Tweets about Zions mom and her consulting fee. What would Nike need her to consult on? There might be a serious answer to that as I don’t know her history or education level etc etc...

Avenatti tweets about other schools like UNLV and 2-3 others, but again, no mention of Kentucky.

Zions mom is living in a $700,000 house this year not far from campus. She wasn’t living that large last year. We’ve all known about her living in that house all season. Not to mention the job his dad got, which to be honest, I can’t recall what it is right now. I don’t believe it was against any rule but giving unqualified people jobs, most likely with a good payout is shady. Wonder why he got that job...

Has any player under Calipari had their parents living in a house like that? Not even Eric Bledsoe’s family went from homeless to $700K house.

All these fans have been clamoring about Cal since the day he was hired. Yet, Kentucky isn’t mentioned in anything or by anyone. Evidence continues to pile up of other programs doing/being shady but there continues to be no mention of Kentucky.

College basketball is a shady business, it’s obvious. Cal knows who has asked for handouts and has backed off of their recruitment plenty of times. If a player ended up at Kentucky that received a payment, I don’t think Calipari would have a clue about it. Say I’m defending him all you want but I’ve got plenty of post since his choke job against Auburn wanting to move on from him.
Zion’s folks were homeless? Any proof yet? Thought so. Go brush your tooth.
 
The past is relevant. Why should we give Kentucky the benefit of the doubt in the present if they have a shady past?

I’ve linked to video of AAU coaches detailing how all the top players are steered and paid (which of course you ignored). The poster turintumbar (or whatever) has posted many times about his own experiences with friends who were paid to be benchwarmers at programs like Nebraska and K-State.

“Proof” is not guaranteed to surface, by any means.

Again, it’s axiomatic that if Nike is paying top players to attend its top schools, the flagship school that has had the most top players probably ain’t getting them for free. But that requires being able to calculate 1+1.
Different coaches? Different administrators?
 
Zion’s folks were homeless? Any proof yet? Thought so. Go brush your tooth.

With your terrible reading comprehension, I’m not surprised at your failed attempt at trying to shame someone else when you are the one who ended up looking stupid.
 
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If Bagleys dad didn’t get in trouble, pretty sure Duke is fine.
I don't care what Duke or UNC does the NCAA will do nothing. Duke and Carolina are the NCAA darlings that can do no wrong. Be glad you are a Duke or UNC fan. Enjoy it.
 
And honestly, the more I think about that Self/ Gassnola conversation, the more it reads like Gassnola was trying to justify paying players to Self. It was the equivalent of "C'mon man, everyone else is doing it, so let's do it."

If that's what Baracuda wants to hitch his wagon up to, then by all means. I'm believing porn guy at this point. Even if he implicates UK. He's shared too many specifics to refute.
 
Bill Self mentioned in one of his wire tapped calls “that’s how it works at Duke and North carolina”
No mention of Kentucky

Avenatti?? Tweets about Zions mom and her consulting fee. What would Nike need her to consult on? There might be a serious answer to that as I don’t know her history or education level etc etc...

Avenatti tweets about other schools like UNLV and 2-3 others, but again, no mention of Kentucky.

Zions mom is living in a $700,000 house this year not far from campus. She wasn’t living that large last year. We’ve all known about her living in that house all season. Not to mention the job his dad got, which to be honest, I can’t recall what it is right now. I don’t believe it was against any rule but giving unqualified people jobs, most likely with a good payout is shady. Wonder why he got that job...

Has any player under Calipari had their parents living in a house like that? Not even Eric Bledsoe’s family went from homeless to $700K house.

All these fans have been clamoring about Cal since the day he was hired. Yet, Kentucky isn’t mentioned in anything or by anyone. Evidence continues to pile up of other programs doing/being shady but there continues to be no mention of Kentucky.

College basketball is a shady business, it’s obvious. Cal knows who has asked for handouts and has backed off of their recruitment plenty of times. If a player ended up at Kentucky that received a payment, I don’t think Calipari would have a clue about it. Say I’m defending him all you want but I’ve got plenty of post since his choke job against Auburn wanting to move on from him.


"In my mind, it's KU, Bill Self. Everyone else fall into line. Too (expletive) bad," Gassnola replied. "That's what's right for Adidas basketball. And I know I'm right. The more you have lottery picks and you happy. That's how it should work in my mind."

"That's how ur (sic) works. At UNC and Duke," Self replied.

Gassnola answered by saying Kentucky as well.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...evel-college-basketball-recruiting-works/amp/
 
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So you're saying creepy porn lawyer is lying about Nike paying Zion's mom? That's what he says. Has he said anything about UK up to this point?
I am saying that you are calling someone else a loudmouth assclown, which they may or may not be, for making assumptions about Kentucky. But then you are willing to make assumptions about Duke based on the word of a proven liar. Everything he has said may be true. I think he threw Duke out there for clicks. Why would Nike care if a player goes to Duke or Kentucky?
 
The past is relevant. Why should we give Kentucky the benefit of the doubt in the present if they have a shady past?

I’ve linked to video of AAU coaches detailing how all the top players are steered and paid (which of course you ignored). The poster turintumbar (or whatever) has posted many times about his own experiences with friends who were paid to be benchwarmers at programs like Nebraska and K-State.

“Proof” is not guaranteed to surface, by any means.

Again, it’s axiomatic that if Nike is paying top players to attend its top schools, the flagship school that has had the most top players probably ain’t getting them for free. But that requires being able to calculate 1+1.
If Nike is paying players, but the schools, coaches or compliance officers don't know about it, then those schools aren't cheating, that's on Nike.

But nothing you have posted is proof of any wrongdoing by anyone you are accusing of cheating and I'm sorry, but Calipari and his staff can't be held responsible for what happened under Eddie Sutton or Adolph Rupp's watch. You're just being an ass.

UK has put processes in place and hired the right people (Sandy Bell) to endure that they are compliant and to prevent getting caught up in KU and UL type scandals.

So you're just going to have to deal with the fact that KU is going down, but there is zero proof on UK. I know you hate that, because you want UK to go down so bad it hurts, but you using internet rumors and past transgressions as your proof is hilarious.
 
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"In my mind, it's KU, Bill Self. Everyone else fall into line. Too (expletive) bad," Gassnola replied. "That's what's right for Adidas basketball. And I know I'm right. The more you have lottery picks and you happy. That's how it should work in my mind."

"That's how ur (sic) works. At UNC and Duke," Self replied.

Gassnola answered by saying Kentucky as well.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...evel-college-basketball-recruiting-works/amp/

The problem with that is, you have an Adidas exec bringing Kentucky up who is a Nike school. It would have more credence had Bill Self brought up Kentucky. This Amanatti guy isn’t referencing any Adidas schools that I’ve seen, but we have an Adidas exec referencing Nike schools. One he certainly has no dealings with or conversations with anyone connected to the UK program or Calipari.
 
It is if you are a fan of those two programs. UNC proved they are untouchable with the fake classes and I believe Duke probably falls into that same category.
With not one bit of proof. Just opinions.
 
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