makes me cringe every time.
Reminds me of some crazy Muslim on street screaming Praise Allah!
It's weird.
Reminds me of some crazy Muslim on street screaming Praise Allah!
It's weird.
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Have fun burning in hell for eternity, infidel.
Why? For a lot of people, including myself, faith is a strong part of life. I thank God every night/morning for what I have. MOF, if people in this world would spend more time being thankful for what they do have, instead of worrying about what they don't have, our society would be a lot better.
I'm very thankful. Very religious as well. I also don't really get thanking God in some instances. I don't mind thanking God for how fortunate one is but when it is framed as making it sound as if God blesses one with athletic success or something like that it seems silly .
Yeah, I can agree. But I don't think many, if any, are thanking God for winning.. Seems to me most are thanking God for the opportunity. Not the win.
I don't understand it at all. You can be grateful and humble with out thanking magic beings. Will never understand how smart people are able to believe such things.
I guess it's a figure of speech for saying "I'm lucky."
I guess it's a figure of speech for saying "I'm lucky."
You don't really have an issue with thanking God though. You just have an issue with God in general. That's cool and all. I get it but that isn't really what it sounded like at first.
SO your issue with the belief. Not the action. Which is cool. But that is not what your initial post sounded like.
I don’t really understand either. Like God wanted you to win more than the other guy. Not how it works haha
Why would an atheist spend any time thinking about, let alone concocting a topic just to talk about God on a message board at 11:00 pm?
If they’re truly an atheist that’d be like me starting a topic about unicorns.
See I don't see them as thanking God for winning. I see it as thanking God for having the opportunity. Being where they are. Etc, etc.....WHen I hear, "First off I want to give all the Glory to God....." I just see that as a person being thankful for having the opportunity.
JMO.
Evem thanking God for the opportunity is a bit self centered. As if God chose these people to be special humans with special opportunities. There are like a trillion universes with a billion suns in each. Are any of these people important?
Would be more accurate to thank their parents and ancestors for mating.
Also, seems more like a political statement and obligatory post game comment rather than saying something with any authenticity.
I guess. ANd really-----------A "political" statement? Where the fvck did that thought come from?
For most Christians, God is the reason of all. I believe that. IMO, He has given us all "special talents". Its on us to how we use them. Or if we even use them at all.
I mean, for him his faith seems important. Seems just as self-centered to claim it isn't authentic. I think it is more him thanking God for being blessed, not special. I get that as a non-believer people like to make a little more of things like that though. A good friend of mine is an atheist and we have these sort of discussions a lot. I completely understand not believing. Looking at this as more than someone feeling blessed (or lucky as you would say) and being thankful for that is kind of reaching though IMO.
i don't get people taking the time to complain because someone thanked God after something good happened in their life
I feel we are all blessed. That we all have been given "special talents". I just think some choose not to use the God given talent they have been blessed with. Instead, they want the "talent" they want; Or think they need. IMO, God has a plan for all of us. But just b.c He has a plan, doesn;t mean that plan will go as He wants it to. That's because he also gave us free will.
Again, I am quite thankful for all I have. Quite thankful.
Again, I am quite thankful for all I have. Quite thankful.
Right. And my friends are the same way. Of course it comes across as if I'm an asshole on the internet, but it's what I think.
Wasn't insulting Borden. The athletes are well intentioned I guess. Just not on side of science necessarily.
I never felt you did. I respect your belief. I mean how can I expect someone to respect my belief, if cannot respect theirs?
I never took anyting you said as being disrespectful.
Oh, I don't really think it comes across that bad or anything. I think a lot of it is in how it is framed by someone. I think the idea of saying God put someone in a certain situation, when the situation is winning a football game, is crazy. I think the idea of personally thanking God because one feels blessed (and think lucky is a perfectly acceptable substitute) is just a way of stating how fortunate one is in their own way. I thank God every day but it is never because I feel like I have been given this or that. It is more just because I feel lucky to be in the situation I'm in and do have faith. For me, it isn't a causal thing but more a grateful thing.
I'm not religious, it's cool if ppl are, whatever. But it is ridiculous when people thank God for awards or championships. If there was a God, like he would care about man made contests and who triumphed in them.
It does come off kind of arrogant like oh yes God chose me and let or helped me do this instead of you.
No, you won that award, your team did that, etc. That work you put in, thats what put you in the position to do that. A God had nothing to do with that. Why would he care if you did or what benefit would it give him if you did? You are more special? Because ppl that don't believe win too.
It does come off kind of arrogant like oh yes God chose me and let or helped me do this instead of you.
No, you won that award, your team did that, etc. That work you put in, thats what put you in the position to do that. A God had nothing to do with that. Why would he care if you did or what benefit would it give him if you did? You are more special? Because ppl that don't believe win too.
Hope it can be a respectful religious discussion but here’s where I question this kinda of viewpoint.
This kind of thinking makes sense for those who live in countries such as America Australia England etc. this kind of thinking is impossible in many countries around the world like North Korea, parts of Africa, Liberia and the list goes on and on. How can god have a plan for you and not these people? What makes us so special? Are we really “blessed” or just lucky to be born to people in the right situation. Nobody is born with a religion or affinity to a certain god, rather it is taught by others. We know the idea of god/ Jesus Christ was developed in a centralized location and spread out through war and forced conversion. Look at the Spaniards and their missions. Anyways that’s just a little of what runs through my head.
Back to the point. It’s absolutely ridiculous to say that god is giving athletic gifts or praising god, who is said to be pure good,to be winning something as truly meaningless as a sports game when there are billions of people that don’t know where their next meal is coming from
Again, I don't think people generally are saying they have been given anything. They are just thankful. As part of their belief system, they are thankful to God for everything. They are saying they are blessed. It is in essence saying how lucky they are, not claiming some special blessing has been bestowed upon them.
See here is where I feel people are getting confused. I don't interpret the comments of "Thanking God" after a win, as thanking Him for winning. More as thanking Him for blessing you, to be in such a position. In other words, just giving the Glory to God, for being what you are. Where you are. So on and so forth. I don't think any true Christian feels that God plays a role, or cares who wins a sporting event. I know I do not. But I do feel He plays a role in the opportunity.
As for places like N.Korea Africa, etc, etc....What makes you think He doesn't have a plan for them? I for one believe he does. Again, just b/c God has a plan, doesn't mean that plan will come to fore front. After all, He gave us free will as well. Which means you don't have to accept the plan he has blueprinted for you.
As for my choice to believe in God, and heaven? Well, I'd rather have that faith, and be disappointed there isn't a God or heaven. Then not believe and be disappointed there is.
SO much this. But for those who do not believe, its a way to denounce those who do. I don't thank God for winning. I thank him for blessing my life, and giving me the opportunity.
Again how does god give some these amazing opportunities or place people in these positions when others get crapped on since the moment they are born. It’s basically eliteism. For example, 99% of North Koreans will never have the opportunities that you and I have been lucky to have. This isn’t just limited to special skills like athletic abilities im talking basic human needs for survival.
What makes me think he doesn’t have a plan for them? Dude there are generations of people who have live the worst lives for centuries. I think it’s absurd to say you don’t have to accept the plan he has for you when most “plans” are terrible. Most people will never even learn the concept of the Christian god.
I mean damn. How is a god who supposedly loves all his people of the world equally let this happen? Where some are given the position to make millions of dollars playing a meaningless game when there are some who will never taste clean water?
That’s fine. Obviously we have the free will as Americans to believe whatever we want. I’d argue that you’re wrong and some people truly do not have free will but that’s an opinion. Glad we could share our thoughts
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I mean, they are thankful, just like you are thankful. There really is no difference. I don't think God has put me here because I am me. I'm lucky to have been born where I was and into the family I was. I can still be thankful and thank God for that. It isn't me saying God placed me in a fortunate situation. I just thank God that I am in fact in that situation. It isn't what you are making it out to be nor is there any real reason to make it into something it isn't.
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Agree with OP, weird af. I see the topic did rustle you zealots though. Made for a good laugh with my coffee.
Are there any God fanboys influenced by the threat of of the punishment of blasphemy? Does the threat of eternal damnation of hell influence your opinion on the OP's opinion?
OP hadn't told anyone he was an atheist for 24hrs. He just couldn't help it. BTW its not that God helped them win, its that God gave them the will, strength, life, etc to get to that position. Its also typically a PR move.
Honestly, if anyone seems rustled in this thread it is those who don't believe (outside of the OP who wasn't rustled at all). Some of them even seem a little angry.
No idea what this means.
While I have faith it doesn't include God helping my team win. Praying for help to do your best in all your endeavors is a different thing.
Pretty sure if I started at class 101 (crazy concept for UNC fans), I'd lose you quickly. Instead, it's better to let people remain ignorant.
I doubt you would lose me if we are talking about the Bible (or anything else tbh). However, believe what you need to.
You seem like you have struggled with faith. I am not going to preach God's word because I am not a religious person and am an admitted sinner. But I find it a bit odd to criticize a person who openly gives thanks to the God they believe in for being blessed with the opportunity not to have the very struggles you described.
Not directed at you, but I also find it odd that seemingly, the same people who criticize athletes for thanking God are typically the same people who beat the islamophobic drum. It's strange to me.
When it comes to brass taxes, what are we complaining about here? If you don't believe in God, that's fine. How are you effected by 20 seconds of someone giving thanks to a higher being that they believe in?
I'm religious and I agree w/ OP that it's a weird convention. I like what Aaron Rodgers has said about it. I also think it's a bit self-aggrandizing, ironically. It's giving credit to God for the football, but it's drawing attention to your own faithfulness.
I greatly prefer the still visible but less in-your-face postgame prayer circle with members of both teams.
I greatly prefer the still visible but less in-your-face postgame prayer circle with members of both teams.
I agree with that actually. I just think people also turn it into something it isn't, which is someone thanking God for their ability. I think that is seldom what is meant. I'm not an outwardly loud person about my faith. I don't think it serves much of a point (nor is really supported by some scripture either tbh). Living it is more in line with my philosophy.
It's all made up perception. amrite?
When talking sports on forums at least there's facts involved. People could back up opinions with proven boxscores.
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