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Rule #1 of life: Don't attempt to get in a fist fight with a teammate in the middle of a game
Rule #2 of life: Don't EVER attempt to get in a fight with a teammate who is miraculously playing after battling cancer for several years



also, when you're up nearly 20 points, you probably don't need to be getting in a teammates face about one blown defensive assignment.


I didn't have a horse in the race at the start, but after seeing the fight and then the collapse start to happen I was instantly a WVA fan.


And how about Ramey. Guy had his career best offensive day and it will now be forever ruined in his memory because of this.

Of course Shaka had no answer for the collapse. Im pretty sure Jones didn't make a shot after the fight either.
 
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Villian07 said:
Me too and Texas used to be my favorite big12 team, bc I was a huge TJ Ford fan as a kid. But watching the predictions of Sheriff crash and burn is a helluva lot more fun than watching old tj ford highlights 😂
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👍 According to some...him, regular season rankings are meaningless. I think not. AP has them ranked 14...too high IMO. Coaches poll at 16 is more realistic.
 
That Texas collapse cost me so much money, they were never the same after that altercation.
 
We got a big game against Texas tomorrow. Texas' roster poses all types of problems for us whether they are ranked in the top ten or 5-5 in their last ten. We shot 13% from 3 and allowed a hot shooting UT to sink 9 more from deep. We barely shot 30% from the field and got out rebounded. Not a good recipe to beat a long and athletic team. I fully expect a better showing this outing and if we can shot from the outside like we are capable of, we will be in position to win the game after the last under 4 timeout. If we don't come out ready to play they can and will bury us, which would erase all momentum we have and kinda prove we are what we are.
 
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man @ OP's rule #2... who is the cancer survivor? Guys make mistakes, that seemed like a giant issue ...

It's crazy this team looked like they could push for a Final Four a few months ago.
 
toonces11 said:
We got a big game against Texas tomorrow. Texas' roster poses all types of problems for us whether they are ranked in the top ten or 5-5 in their last ten. We shot 13% from 3 and allowed a hot shooting UT to sink 9 more from deep. We barely shot 30% from the field and got out rebounded. Not a good recipe to beat a long and athletic team. I fully expect a better showing this outing and if we can shot from the outside like we are capable of, we will be in position to win the game after the last under 4 timeout. If we don't come out ready to play they can and will bury us, which would erase all momentum we have and kinda prove we are what we are.
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We've been shooting poorly for a while. They're good shooters too, but they're struggling. Something's gotta give.

As for Texas.... Shaka has continuously underperformed with the talent he's had on roster. He can't gain control of his team and once the team attitude takes a downturn for his teams, he struggles to get them back on course.

FWIW, I have no idea why any big man would ever want to play for Shaka. His underutilization of talented big guys has been damn near criminal. Yet they continue to commit to him.
 
Ipartiedwithhopgood said:
man @ OP's rule #2... who is the cancer survivor? Guys make mistakes, that seemed like a giant issue ...

It's crazy this team looked like they could push for a Final Four a few months ago.
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They’re a 4 seed headed to a 5 if they don’t start winning some of the close ones.
 
Turinturumbar said:
We've been shooting poorly for a while. They're good shooters too, but they're struggling. Something's gotta give.

As for Texas.... Shaka has continuously underperformed with the talent he's had on roster. He can't gain control of his team and once the team attitude takes a downturn for his teams, he struggles to get them back on course.

FWIW, I have no idea why any big man would ever want to play for Shaka. His underutilization of talented big guys has been damn near criminal. Yet they continue to commit to him.
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I would kill for sims at KU
 
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Ipartiedwithhopgood said:
man @ OP's rule #2... who is the cancer survivor? Guys make mistakes, that seemed like a giant issue ...

It's crazy this team looked like they could push for a Final Four a few months ago.
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Andrew Jones. Kinda surprised someone posting here didn't know that. It's been a massive national CBB story for the past 4 years.
 
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WeAreDePaul said:
0 wins vs DePaul since 2006. :cool:
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Crappy Davenpot said:
👍 According to some...him, regular season rankings are meaningless. I think not. AP has them ranked 14...too high IMO. Coaches poll at 16 is more realistic.
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Thats a lot more reasonable than his stance on coaching not mattering.

Or that nothing random happens in March 😂
 
bignish said:
That Texas collapse cost me so much money, they were never the same after that altercation.
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I backed off em at the last moment, had it que’d up and everything, even got pissed at myself when they got that big lead.



Ive been losing my @ss this year, well already lost my yearly limit. Good luck to anyone making $$$ this year. Hell teams will play back to backs in these small conferences and one team will win the first by 10 then the other wins the second by 20 or vice versa it’s nuts.

Then my website gave me a free 20$ casino promo and I made 100$ playing three card poker 2$ a hand 2$ in the hole 😂 been bettin off that ever since. Probly be better off in the online casino 😂
 
Villian07 said:
Thats a lot more reasonable than his stance on coaching not mattering.

Or that nothing random happens in March 😂
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Rankings matter a lot more than they let on. Not supposed to, but they do. It’s a template. And if you watch the seedlings, they usually follow pretty close. Yeah, coaching doesn’t matter was a doozy.
 
Oh I wasn’t disagreeing about rankings. Just that was on the low side of silly things he’s doubled down on. I can’t remember if it was me and you or me and ge Nole or all 3 of us that kept going back and forth with him about how big a role preseason rankings plays bc when the number of losses is equal lots of times the rankings just revert back to who was ranked higher in the preseason rankings.

Bc we were basically saying that no more losses than Louisville and FSU (Especially FSU who only had 2 losses) had at that time, had either started the preseason in the top ten, which is obviously based on pure speculation, we would have still been in the top ten. The same is still true for FSU, sadly not so much for Louisville.
 
Villian07 said:
Oh I wasn’t disagreeing about rankings. Just that was on the low side of silly things he’s doubled down on. I can’t remember if it was me and you or me and ge Nole or all 3 of us that kept going back and forth with him about how big a role preseason rankings plays bc when the number of losses is equal lots of times the rankings just revert back to who was ranked higher in the preseason rankings.

Bc we were basically saying that no more losses than Louisville and FSU (Especially FSU who only had 2 losses) had at that time, had either started the preseason in the top ten, which is obviously based on pure speculation, we would have still been in the top ten. The same is still true for FSU, sadly not so much for Louisville.
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Injuries and the constant start and stop of this covid season has really hurt UL. It’s been a weird year.
 
Villian07 said:
I backed off em at the last moment, had it que’d up and everything, even got pissed at myself when they got that big lead.



Ive been losing my @ss this year, well already lost my yearly limit. Good luck to anyone making $$$ this year. Hell teams will play back to backs in these small conferences and one team will win the first by 10 then the other wins the second by 20 or vice versa it’s nuts.

Then my website gave me a free 20$ casino promo and I made 100$ playing three card poker 2$ a hand 2$ in the hole 😂 been bettin off that ever since. Probly be better off in the online casino 😂
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I’ve stopped betting on games reg about 3 years ago. Never got far enough ahead and then I risk it all to make up for it. I def don’t have a nose for it...unless I don’t bet.
 
SheriffBufordTJustice said:
All those one possession regular season losses are going to cause Texas trouble....
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Bottom line is your ass get missing when your team is struggling but you were here 24/7 at the beginning of the season talking shit. The entire board knew what it was, that Texas/Shaka aren't ready for the big time. And yes coaching matters and that dust up with Ramey/Jones would of of got checked had that happened to UNC, UK, KU and other teams.
 
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Of note, an overrated TT team lost for the 8th time. A team that beat Texas.
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Wouldn’t call them overrated at 18. They swept Oklahoma and won at Texas and LSU. Every team they’ve lost to is solidly tourney-bound.

When will people acknowledge that the Big 12 round robin is rough this year?
 
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ExitFlagger said:
Wouldn’t call them overrated at 18. They swept Oklahoma and won at Texas and LSU. Every team they’ve lost to is solidly tourney-bound.

When will people acknowledge that the Big 12 round robin is rough this year?
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Sorry I’m old school and any loss is not a good loss. 8 losses is crap. A losing record in conference is crap. Should not be ranked IMO and they are tanking late in the season.
 
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The big12 is round robin is rough no doubt.

you’ll likely find more people agreeing with you now that a certain poster isn’t around claiming the big12 will have 5/8 elite eight teams, bc they have superior athletes over every other conference in the nation.

I mean I get it, It’s hard to count out Beard bc of his past few seasons, it’s hard to count out huggy or Kruger either. And of course Self is probably the best of the bunch so hard to count out Kansas either. Idk about Texas, will see how they respond to the wvu collapse. Then of course Baylor is Baylor. And obv okie state would probably be dancing if they weren’t banned. So 8/10 tourney teams is ridiculously tough.

But when non big12 fans have had to sift through how much chest beating was going on when the big12 had 5 of the top 15 around New Years and sheriff claiming how they’d have 5/8 elite eight teams, or that FSU as an example I remember would be a bottom tier big 12 team. no non big12 fan was gonna align themselves with those opinions.

I mean hell in the original Big12 hype thread the OP had Oklahoma with Kansas state/iowastate/tcu as the scrubs of the conference and OU might end up being the second best team in The conference.
 
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Sorry I’m old school and any loss is not a good loss. 8 losses is crap. A losing record in conference is crap. Should not be ranked IMO and they are tanking late in the season.
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Most of the top 10 has 5-6 losses.

You do realize that some teams have played a lot more games than others, right? Kind of silly to knock a team for having a few more losses when they've played several more games.

I realize that you're taking this "all losses are equal" stance because Florida St lost by double digits to a terrible Central Florida team and a weak G Tech but only has 3 total losses. But it stands to reason that they'd probably have more losses with more games played and a tougher schedule.
 
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Villian07 said:
The big12 is round robin is rough no doubt.

you’ll likely find more people agreeing with you now that a certain poster isn’t around claiming the big12 will have 5/8 elite eight teams, bc they have superior athletes over every other conference in the nation.

I mean I get it, It’s hard to count out Beard bc of his past few seasons, it’s hard to count out huggy or Kruger either. And of course Self is probably the best of the bunch so hard to count out Kansas either. Idk about Texas, will see how they respond to the wvu collapse. Then of course Baylor is Baylor. And obv okie state would probably be dancing if they weren’t banned. So 8/10 tourney teams is ridiculously tough.

But when non big12 fans have had to sift through how much chest beating was going on when the big12 had 5 of the top 15 around New Years and sheriff claiming how they’d have 5/8 elite eight teams, or that FSU as an example I remember would be a bottom tier big 12 team. no non big12 fan was gonna align themselves with those opinions.

I mean hell in the original Big12 hype thread the OP had Oklahoma with Kansas state/iowastate/tcu as the scrubs of the conference and OU might end up being the second best team in The conference.
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I don't think anyone but Sheriff has done a lot of chest-beating in regard to the Big 12. He's no doubt the ultimate Big 12 homer. Like Iowa fans, Sheriff needs to pump up the league to feel better about his team's lack of success.

I don't view the Big 12 as being absurdly loaded, but the reality is that you're playing a tourney team almost every night. One third of your schedule is vs teams in the current top 10, and about half are top 15.

Unless you're Baylor/Gonzaga, you're going to have some losses.
 
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Sorry I’m old school and any loss is not a good loss. 8 losses is crap. A losing record in conference is crap. Should not be ranked IMO and they are tanking late in the season.
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To be fair, of the 5 games they had suspended, 3 were against TCU and ISU. You say it doesn't matter, but when the games you are missing are the winnable games and the games you are playing are the better teams, then it will reflect inaccurately on your record.

KU had something similar earlier in the year, where we had our schedule stacked with the better teams, and the easy game on the schedule was postponed, so not only did we lose several games, but the brutality of the schedule took a mental toll on the team that we still haven't completely recovered from as we've still got our best two shooters struggling to hit wide open shots right now.
 
Villian07 said:
The big12 is round robin is rough no doubt.

you’ll likely find more people agreeing with you now that a certain poster isn’t around claiming the big12 will have 5/8 elite eight teams, bc they have superior athletes over every other conference in the nation.
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The Big XII's strength has generally not been that it has elite teams, though last year could have been the Big XII's year with KU and Baylor being two dominant teams.....damn COVID. The Big XII's strength has been its parity. The fact that it's filled with average to above average teams and very few bad teams. Now don't get me wrong, ISU and KSU are terrible, and TCU is below average, but the rest of the conference, aka 70% of the league, is above average to good, with Baylor being dominant unless they come out quarantine rusty. So the round robin is very difficult.

I do think that due to having so many above average teams and the difficulty of the round robin, it inflates the seeding of several Big XII teams by a seed or two, because the computers look at the ranking of opponents, so if you're playing very few poor teams, you're going to get ranked higher, even if another team is as good or better. But that doesn't take away from the difficulty of the league. Conferences like the Big East, ACC, and SEC are top heavy most years and have a lot of bad teams generally, while conferences like the Big XII and Big 10 have more parity, but sometimes fewer elite teams.
 
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Most of the top 10 has 5-6 losses.

You do realize that some teams have played a lot more games than others, right? Kind of silly to knock a team for having a few more losses when they've played several more games.

I realize that you're taking this "all losses are equal" stance because Florida St lost by double digits to a terrible Central Florida team and a weak G Tech but only has 3 total losses. But it stands to reason that they'd probably have more losses with more games played and a tougher schedule.
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The UCF loss was a bad loss. Not going to argue. I will point out this team lost 2 lottery picks and a 3rd, their team leader to the NBA. A lot of new starters, guys getting a lot more minutes. Is there another team that lost 2 or more lottery picks? I don’t know the answer. So this explains some early stumbles. Chemistry that should have been developed some during pre-season, wasn’t due to covid restrictions. BTW, GT is not a weak team at all. They can beat anyone in the ACC.

FSU cannot be held responsible for covid delays. 2 of the big games cancelled were VT and Duke. FSU still has UNC Saturday, 2nd time. Texas would lose to UNC at this point. UNC has improved greatly, Texas has not. Tex won by 2 early in the year. Tho we’ll never know for sure.

At some point losses matter. Look at the coaches poll. Evidently the coaches believe this. FSU is ranked ahead of Illinois. You’re right FSU may have more losses if they had played a full schedule, but we’ll never know.
If you’re team has been able to play a full schedule and not been put on pause, congrats. FSU has had 2. How about giving them some credit for coming out of both pauses and blowing teams off the court! Look how other teams stumble out of covid delays.
 
Villian07 said:
I mean hell in the original Big12 hype thread the OP had Oklahoma with Kansas state/iowastate/tcu as the scrubs of the conference and OU might end up being the second best team in The conference.
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I think it's more like Kansas, OU, WVU, and Texas are all pretty much on the same level. It's hard to say which team is 2nd best. KU is 1-1 against OU and 1-1 against WVU, and 0-1 against Texas, but that could change tonight depending on which Texas team KU gets. Last time they brought probably their best performance of the year against us, so maybe it'll even out and tonight they'll be bricking shots and fighting each other.

But yeah, that's the difficulty of the Big XII. None of those 4 teams are great, but all 4 are top 20-ish. That's the problem that OSU and TT have right now. They're tourney quality teams and probably top 30ish, but they've got 9 opponents in the league, and 1 of them might be the best team in the country, and 4 of the other 8 are top 20ish type teams. Then they each have to play each other twice as well.... So 6 of the 9 opponents in the league are on their level or above, being likely 5 or 6 seeds in the tourney or better. Then TCU is capable of beating them if they have an off night... TCU isn't talented, but they're well coached, and I believe they did beat OSU. KSU and ISU though are as bad of two teams as I think I've ever seen in the Big XII.
 
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