If he can put on legit weight before the year I think he can make an impact. Dude needs to gain like 40 pounds haha.
*Official* B1G Off-season Thread
- Thread starter jwardelt
- Start date
If he can put on legit weight before the year I think he can make an impact. Dude needs to gain like 40 pounds haha.
Reported.ready to arbitrarily pick an IU and Purdue guard and endlessly debate who's better.
LETS DO THIS
Green is better than Edwards don’t @ Me
With or without Langford, I would guess IU is a NCAA Tourney team.Yes, but which one?
where's the scoring coming from? badly need some shooting w/ the departure of RoJo.
Returning a good core of Morgan, who has a chance at 1st Team, Davis, Smith, Green, Durham, McRoberts. Bringing in Top 20 recruiting class with multiple guys who are known for being good shooters. Granted, I know they're going to be freshman and struggle at times. If we get Romeo, we could be a contender for the B10 Championship. Not saying we're going to win it or anything, but we should be right there, IMO. No Romeo, I think we're a Top five(ish) B10 team.
Gonna need to wait another year. You guys are all over early top-15 lists.
Next year, early speculation based on some known decisions and projections....
Top 11-20 - in no particular order
Michigan - no Mo, Matthews stays
Michigan State - Nick Ward comes back
Maryland - Jackson out, Bruno stays
NCAA 9-11 seeds
Nebraska - kids return from testing waters
Indiana - for now, cusp top 25 with Langford
Wisconsin - if Happ stays
NIT
Purdue - need another transfer for NCAA
Penn State - wish Carr was staying
Ohio State - need grad transfers
Minnesota - should rebound a little bit
No postseason
Rutgers
Illinois
Iowa
Northwestern
Top 11-20 - in no particular order
Michigan - no Mo, Matthews stays
Michigan State - Nick Ward comes back
Maryland - Jackson out, Bruno stays
NCAA 9-11 seeds
Nebraska - kids return from testing waters
Indiana - for now, cusp top 25 with Langford
Wisconsin - if Happ stays
NIT
Purdue - need another transfer for NCAA
Penn State - wish Carr was staying
Ohio State - need grad transfers
Minnesota - should rebound a little bit
No postseason
Rutgers
Illinois
Iowa
Northwestern
of course every 4* player on the Iowa roster are nothing but scum that is scrapped off the bottom of the barrel that can't even tie their own shoes.
why don't you take the perma ban bet?
I'd put them at almost a lock with Langford (injuries or suspensions being the potential limiter). Without Langford, I think it is better than 50/50. I need to see offseason roster shakeouts before finalizing how much better than 50/50.
Purdue is already an NCAA tournament team if Carsen returns.
Suspensions? Don't understand that one at all. Not sure where you're going with that. With Langford, I don't think it's even a question we'll make the tourney. Without Langford, I would agree with the greater than 50% and not sure on how much greater until we see final rosters and schedules.
Yeah. I know. I just think they have the pieces. Especially with an experienced 4 man in the fold.
sometimes people's opinions differ.
Why? They lose the most production out of, what, any of the other B10 team? They don't bring in anyone of major note. You have guys that should help, but Carsen can't do it all by himself.IMO they are.
Ugh. All MSU fans know it’s bullshit. All Big Ten fans know it’s bull shit. I don’t understand it whatsoever
I agree with this list, but I’d say Nebraska and Indiana (with Langford) will be higher than 9-11seeds. I’d say more like 6-8 ish
Carsen will be an All-American again. We bring in a productive forward who will rebound and play his ass off. We also are actively looking for another grad-transfer guard. I like Wheeler's potential off a redshirt year to contribute. I like Haarms & Eastern developing better jump shots. We will be more athletic overall. And we have a good coach who has proven he can develop players. It's definitely not ludicrous to look at Purdue's roster and say they aren't an NCAA tournament team.
they did including a 1st round win in the BTT. they beat Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois and NW
like I said take the bet or STFU.
That’s a bit wishful. Maybe if everything clicks all correctly, maybe 5? I don’t see them being a 4 or better.
Lots and lots and lots and lots of question marks and assumptions on your part. You lose most of your experience. Unproven starters. Unproven freshman/sophomores. You're basically assuming the best case scenario. It likely won't work out completely the way you laid it out. Edwards will be a beast. But who else? Haarms? Disappeared when his team needed him the most. Eastern? His jump shot looks worse than my grandmothers, and she's 93. You guys won't be terrible by any stretch. But again, tons of question marks that you are assuming work out in the best possible scenario. I assume some of those things will pan out, some won't. Bubble team. Which way will they fall? Not sure.
OK just thinking that guys will improve this off-season and other players will be able to step in and have an opportunity to prove themselves. I think we're a solid tourney team with this roster and especially when/if we add another grad-transfer guard.
Why not? If we get Langford, we're going to be tough. We need our guard play to get better and it's taken care of with Langford (given we get him). My whole assumption is based on our progression throughout the season. Our early struggles had a lot to do with Archie's new system offensively and defensively. Our defense got significantly better throughout the year and we were pretty darn tough at the end of the season. Offensively we just need more firepower. Don't forget that we also lost our only real big man in De'ron Davis. He'll be back. We bring in a Top 20 recruiting class that should contribute some. That recruiting class could be Top 10 if we add Langford. Given the year in Archie's system, returning most of our core players, our progression through the season last year, I don't think it's crazy to think we could be ranked next year. Don't think it's a given by any means, but not out of the picture at all.
I think I just witnessed the emptiest B1G outright championship in MSU followed by the emptiest title game run by UM.
Best absolutely no of consequence, set record for easiest draw, then just get absolutely run off the court in a pathetically boring game.
But MSU and UM both get to hang banners..yay
Best absolutely no of consequence, set record for easiest draw, then just get absolutely run off the court in a pathetically boring game.
But MSU and UM both get to hang banners..yay
I do think they will be ranked, but 4 seeds and higher are top 16. The team is quite good, but with the players plus Langford, I’m just not seeing a top 4 seed caliber team. I mean, there is always a chance, if everything clicks and they all hit in perfectly, but I wold say it is quite unlikely
Cmon man. Indiana & Maryland are just as questionable as Purdue. Don’t act like that it’s that cut & dry.
If Wagner leaves and Ward comes back really not that much of a stretch...but I still wouldn't put MSU ahead of UM.
Simpson, Poole, and Mathews at the 1,2 and 3 is better than what MSU has right now starting but Tilman/Ward will be a very solid front court.
Not out of the question that Winston and Langford become a better duo than Poole and Simpson but who knows. Need to see them play on the court.
Don't see Maryland being as questionable as Purdue. Their starting 5 will be very good and talented.
Similar threads
