I think people are underestimating how proficient Reneau can be as an outside shooter as well. He largely worked in the paint in conference play, but if you watch him play/practice, he has a decent shot. It’s not a TJD situation where he’s never going to shoot from outside the paint.
I think that’s a decent IF, no? Thought there were motor concerns at Oregon IIRC.
I think the toughest part is how unproven those guys are. Last year you had both a guard and forward who could get you a bucket when you needed one. Having XJ back gives you that from the guard spot but I think the frontcourt will have some growing pains especially when no one has any idea what to expect from Ware. I wonder how effective Reneau can be in an expanded role too.
I guess I just don’t see him shooting 3’s next year, maybe he can space the floor with midrange jumpers.
I’d bet that had more to do with Dante and Bittle being ahead of him on the depth chart.
I think it’s the “believe it when I see it” situation. Could he be? Absolutely. But it hasn’t happened yet. It’s like people freaking out when there are videos of Edey making 3’s. Could he in games? Sure but that’s not the higher percentage shot and Reneau’s strengths are closer to the basket versus out on the perimeter IMO.
I’m guessing people will treat him like Race until he proves otherwise. If Reneau beats you with midrange/3’s you tip your cap and move on.
I wonder if the transfer from Ball State will push him honestly. Lot of minutes available in the frontcourt with TJD gone.
I’d say probably 70/30 he comes back. If this were pre-NIL days, I’d agree with you that he wouldn’t have much reason to come back (think Carsen Edwards after his tournament run in 2019). If NIL was a thing back in 2019, I could’ve seen Carsen coming back for his senior year. Unless he gets a guarantee that he’ll be getting a guaranteed NBA contract, I think he’ll be back and will have a really solid NIL deal waiting for him.
Obviously this is against a nothing opponent, but this is an example of what I’m talking about:
Not sure about Ware, but I expect good things from Reneau. He showed throughout the year that he can produce. He's not gonna be TJD numbers, but I don't think we'll see any material growing pains. He's got really good post moves and touch around the rim. I'm pretty excited about him this upcoming season.
I think I'm gonna take your "unproven" thoughts and apply it to Purdue here. Gonna be a lot different for the rest of the team if Edey does leave. Those four haven't shown me anything to really scare me without Edey. Could they? Potentially. But I haven't seen them play a ton without him to really gauge how effective they can be without someone demanding all of the opposing teams attention.
I’m talking catch and shoot, opposed to creating his own shot off the dribble.
Definitely think he's better at the 5, he was pretty good around the rim last year for a freshman. His game probably expands a little more outside the paint than TJD but he's not at all some outside threat. He had some issues defensively, he def got behind and picked up a lot of fouls trying to make up for it. Feel it was more to do with understanding where to be.
Ware has a very good looking shot...And he's capable. Like you said, if dude works on it, he culd be very lethal.
Agree 100%...I wouldn't mind him stepping out on occasion, shooting a three...He has a nice looking stroke. But his bread/butter IMO is in the post...Or off the elbow.
I laughed at your post because you try to poke fun at me for questioning your returning players without Edey all while completely ignore the same conversation we're having again with a Purdue fan about our 5* players which is exactly the same thing we hear from Purdue fans regarding every other 5* player IU ever had, amirite @otte21? You could add the "it's going to take them time" argument from Purdue fans, too. But by all means, carry on. I'll continue to let you know the hypocrisy. LOL.
Where’d I poke fun? I was simply discussing what it might be like for your team without two proven commodities. I never said things would be good if Edey left but I still think we’d be a top 25 team (and I’d imagine most pundits would agree). We don’t know what Furst and TKR would look like without Edey but I think Painter has the track record to fall back on when you think about how we’ve done in years after big-time players left. More often than not, Painter will finish in the top 4 of the conference and history bears that out. A lot of your examples were before Woody took over and doesn’t really have too much significance compared to Purdue/Painter. Painter has the track record while Woody is only in year 3. I think that’s the key differentiator.
In fairness, your recent prior success with 5 star freshmen guards was not great.
I was talking specifically to @otte21 which is why I tagged him. Post wasn't directed at you.
What are you even talking about? You that hurt over that Zeller pic I posted like 5 days ago still?
Nah, just giving you a tissue because you cried about me questioning the returning players you have at Purdue. Hope you get that all dried up sometime soon.
I'd personally put both Romeo and Lander in that category. Yes, I know he averaged 16 ppg but I think he fell short of most IU fans' expectations (albeit in part due to injury).
I don't consider Langford a disappointment at all. Lander I absolutely do. He's the only one that really didn't live up to expectations.
Landers is just as below avg at WKU, Langford did pretty well despite injuries and being misused by Archie. It's a bad take by you it's ok to admit.
Romeo was in Bailey status---Never could have lived up to what people expected. AS for me---I was fine with the kid. Saw him play all through HS----officiated his games. Kid was really good. Wrist and thumb injuries---then his back, slowed him...But even then..
Right. He was part of the shooting woes on that team, but he was objectively good otherwise…while having no chance to live up to the god status he was elevated to upon commitment.
His shooting was absolutely injury related.. Saw the kid play a ton in HS....Worked probably 7-8 of his games. After he got hurt vs Priceton(OH), you could see it impacted his shooting. Just was neverthe same....Then hurt his thumb vs Duke----Not to mention the back issues; lingered in HS. Still believe HS coach played him waaaaaaaay to much.
I really haven’t followed him since IU but is he still injured? He’s shooting 28% from 3 in the NBA in 5 seasons and averaging 4.6 pts.
He never was an outside shooter. How's Carsen Edwards NBA career going? But yes has dealt with some injuries from what I remember.
I think this was zz's point, where Borden said it was all due to injuries.
