Durham has more than Phinisee lol.
***Official B1G In-Season Thread***
- Thread starter dragonhawk1855
- Start date
Durham has more than Phinisee lol.
Durham has very little experience? He averaged 18.8 minutes as a freshman and 28.8 as a sophomore.
WTF? I have quite literally stated “play before these guys” in every post you have responded to. Sure Franklin could contribute, probably at the end of games in blowouts. I highly doubt he would see any minutes other than that on this Purdue team.
Saying this is about contributing is bizarre as I am sure they both could contribute but the difference is, IU needs Franklin to play and Purdue doesn’t need Newman to play. Somehow IU fans think that means he isn’t ready and it’s pretty clear that there are no minutes to be had and that is why he is redshirting.
Yeah Borden and I weren’t trolling just saying a player had a good game. Looks like you missed the mark.
Lol. Clearly you have no clue what you’re taking about. IU returns ALL of it’s starting backcourt from last year. Durham doesn’t have much experience? He’s got more experience than Thompson, Newman, Sasha and Hunter. Oh, and he put up 21 in our first game.
Literally, you have no clue what you’re talking about. Plus, our returning backcourt shot it better from 3 and I believe it returns more points and minutes than Purdue.
And yes, I dont know who’s backcourt is going to be better. It’s not even close to clear at this point.
Okay, my mistake. Perhaps I didn’t notice because of the underwhelming performances the last two years.
That still leaves IU thin at guard unless you play walk-ons and less experienced than Purdue.
lol nice way to take a shot...since you don’t have a clue on his performances or him in general. Go ahead and take a look at his stats and see the nice bump from Freshman to Sophomore year.
People trying to compare two players from two completely different programs when one player has played one game, and the other hasn’t played a single game yet is just dumb.
There has been one game and your projecting those stats moving forward. Didn’t you just say something about reading too much into one game?
It’s cute IU shot a better % at 3 in the first game. Keep that hope alive. Lulz
And his put up 21 in our first game. It’s clear that @proudopete is nothing more than an uninformed fanboy. He’s demonstrated that clearly for us today.
Yeah, and Durham also has two full years of experience. The guys you’re projecting for Purdue have hardly any experience (Hunter, Sasha, Thompson, Newman).
IU’s returning backcourt shot a better percentage from 3pt on more volume than anything Purdue has returning. Stats/facts matter more than your fanboy feelings.
I’m so glad the season has begun. It took you one game against one of the worst teams in D1 for you to go all fanboy on us.
This year, actually just last week, Purdue shit 47% from 3. I will take that over your retuning players stats from last year. There is zero chance that IU shouts it better from deep than Purdue this season. Measure it by percentage or by shots made and it will still favor the Boilers.
Thanks for the early morning laugh. Enjoy your NIT season and I’ll just hang out watching a top 25 team all year.
I was actually questioning if some stuff going on in his personal life lead to this decision. Its just surprising to me that he's not even going to play a little bit giving his elite shooting ability and high recruiting ranking.
I didn’t. You made those comments and I missed where the resident troll swoops in and calls you a fanboy. That’s the point. It’s a damn shame that pos trashes the board up so bad.
Are you still wanting to bet that Newman shoots a higher 3pt % than Franklin this year?
Proctor and Hunter played 38 and 34 minutes respectively. I can't imagine thats ideal long term.
Yeah? How did they shoot last night? How did they shoot in their scrimmage? LOL! Oh man. They shot it well during their exhibition game? Stop the press!
And again, the returning players from IU had a higher 3pt percentage on more attempts than what Purdue has returning. The stats are out there.
I don't think any of the IU fans were trolling in our conversation about Franklin. It's extremely encouraging what we've seen from him. I even made comments alluding to him not being some major impact guy, but carving out time to contribute every game even when Green comes back.
Sasha was hurt. Those numbers will go down a lot when he comes back.
Oh goodness. Stats are fine but they don’t occur in a vacuum. There is a reason why the retuning Purdue players shot less threes last year than your returning players. I’ll let you kill that one over and figure it out for yourself.
We are in this season and your first game although a nice percentage, was one guy hitting all three of his attempts and two other guys hitting a whopping one each.
You can keep looking at your stats if you like but Purdue will have numerous games with 5 or 6 guys all hitting 3’s and IU will maybe see that once...maybe?
IU has experience alright. The problem is it’s experience losing games. Maybe next year will be better but this season will not be kind to you.
Purdue fans continue to ask if Newman could play ahead of Proctor, Sasha, or Hunter.... yet, the real question is why can’t Newman beat out IT? Hunter was fine as the backup PG for Purdue last year, so don’t give me the “IT is a PG “ bs. The truth is Newman isn’t where Purdue fans expected him to be at this point. Anyone who says they saw Newman as a redshirt this year prior to this week is not telling the truth. IT has always been the center of redshirt talk among Purdue fans this offseason.
Yeah that was a weird take. He has more experience than Phinisee, Sasha and Hunter. And has more at a Big Ten level than Proctor.
Change it to fewer misses, and you've got yourself a bet.
Well, do you want to know why a wing can't beat out a point guard for point guard minutes or don't you? Make up your mind.
Hunter is better suited as a combo guard playing alongside another ball-handler. I'm not sure there's really much debate there. I would have liked for Newman to be in the rotation for his ability to stretch the floor, but as long as Sasha's injury isn't long-term, we have enough wings to make it work and not burn a year of eligibility.
It's not a perfect comparison, but I do wonder if Newman is having similar struggles to what Raphael Davis encountered his freshman year. Davis was physically ready, but struggled with a lot of the concepts and defensive principles his first year. If Newman can take the Wheeler route and be an impact guy next year, it'll all be fine.
As others have said, Sasha was out, and Nojel had to leave the game for a bit due to his wrist. So while I do think those guys will log a bunch of minutes in competitive games, it definitely will even out.
However, sounds like Sasha will be a week or two.
I think Painter is really comfortable with Nojel/IT playing the 1, and Proctor/Hunter/Sasha playing the 2/3 (Wheeler also played some 3 last night), hence the redshirt for Newman. But things could change quickly if Nojel's wrist/ankle or Sasha's foot are lingering issues.
Was pretty much what I was questioning if his shirt wood be burned. I know the first game against a nobody isn’t the time to make that decision.
You think Newman can play point? Have you ever watched him play basketball?
He's undoubtedly behind where we expected and guys like Hunter, Proctor and Sasha are ahead of where we expected. But he has never been the type that can play point, even at Purdue, as he's always been an off-ball, true shooting guard kind of player.
why can't a SG/WG beat out a PG for minutes. SG/WG can handle ball just as good as a PG, also with teams moving away from the traditional position BB to the positionless game.
the 1/2/3 all can handle the ball, defend and shoot out past the arc. this is why you see team going with a 4 guard, 1 forward lineup.
I think it's possible.
If I was Painter, I might think about burning Gillis' shirt before Newman's. Boudreaux still looked like a CPA at the Y out there as opposed to a Big Ten 4 man, and I think you could pretty easily give Wheeler some minutes at the 3 with Gillis manning the 4.
I get a lot of you guys want to troll this Newman stuff, but it sounds like his learning curve on the details of the game, playing within the system, etc. is pretty long. Where Gillis might be more prepared from that standpoint, and with a guy playing a handful of minutes a game, just having continuity and a guy knowing what he's supposed to be doing is probably more valuable.
Franklin would be the backup PG at Purdue imo, just like he is at IU.
Didn’t you disappear a few years back after making some dumb IU comments after a Duke loss?
Similar threads
