Yeah? Considering we've gotten two 5* in-state kids the last two years and multiple other ranked in-state kids, why are we not in a position to be picky?
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Seems that the number of true PGs is dwindling each year with combo rising.
Because your teams have been poorly constructed and have yielded 0 results from those 5 stars.
Well, one of those five star kids hasn't played yet so of course he hasn't yielded any results. My point was that it doesn't seem as though we have to be picky with instate kids as we've gotten who we've wanted (mostly) regardless of your views on roster construction and results.
Yep. i think Painter’s has some appeal to those kids...and he’s targeting them in almost every class.
Not trolling. Your teams have sucked recently. Recruiting has had something to do with that. You’re getting 5 stars and are still struggling. That’s a problem.
Archie has had one recruiting class and one five star on the roster to this point. Indiana's previous 5 star was Thomas Bryant 4 years ago.
If you think Archie's recruiting has had something to do with it, wouldn't you want him to be more picky and not just throw offers to every single top 200 ranked in-state kid?
Edit: Depending on where you look the last was 2014. Indiana's recruiting especially in-state went to shit that is why Crean was let go. That, to this point, has not been an issue with Archie, so he can be as "picky" as he wants
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This is where I'm at. I see a 8 seed type team, but hopefully some guys make some big strides offensively. I do think we'll be tough to score on, get a good number of steals, and impact a lot of shots.
At the same time, it's hard to doubt Painter. We lost Hammons and Davis, got better. Lost Biggie, got better. Lost Mathias/Haas/PJ/Vince, [arguably] got better. You'd think it'd catch up, but he's starting to look Bo-like.
Just love the fact he’s piling shooters upon shooters with each class. Pair good shooting with his defensive principles/putting players in a position to succeed and good things happen.
could be wrong but i think snow said eastern wasn't athletic coming out of high school
Galloway isn’t known as a shooter though. I guess he based that on overall play. The 2020 state of Indiana class is about as weak as they come
Yeah he’s had some good hot takes over the years. I in general respect his analysis but he strikes a nerve with me the way he loves to tear people down while hiding behind a keyboard.
Agree on the shooters, and he seems to be targeting more length as well.
TBH, I think you'll have multiple guys contribute big throughout the year. Meaning, you won't have one or two guys average 18 ppg or anything, but you'll have multiple guys capable of putting up 20 plus on any given night. So one night Wheeler will carry the team and the next Newman or Haarms might. I'm guessing it's way more balanced. But I can get on board with an 8 seed type. Think that's fair.
EDIT: Also think it's a bit too early to start the whole Bo Ryan comparison. You've had two All American type guys in Swanigan and Edwards over the last four years. If you keep getting guys to that level, then sure, but I don't see anyone on the roster close to that level right now.
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Morton, Love, Leal, Saunders
I am sure I will be able to add 277 names to this list after this weekend.
if you can't shoot, that's an issue. There are exceptions and Nojel has turned into a good player without one, but if you're shooting as poorly as Galloway, it's not a good sign if you want to play in the Big Ten imo
He also said Eastern would never be a P5 point guard and he just played PG for a P5 team in the Elite Eight.
He's shot very well so far this spring. With that being said, I'd pass on him. We should have offered Leal already.
To be fair, Purdue doesn't have a typical PG. The motion offense prevents that. For example, Nojel was 3rd on your team in assists behind Carsen and Cline.
Did I ever say I wasn't an IU fan? You can be a fan of a B1G team while also being a fan of the conference said team plays in.
Now go back to your trolling.
True. I think a lot of people weren’t high on Eastern because he can’t shoot but he’s clearly shown how valuable of a player he can be. I expect him to have a really good year next year.
Is @B-Westy one of the least informed posters on the board? His takes are only worsted by the 60+ year old who has had a stroke.
Yea I'm not sure I'd actually classify him as a true PG. He's more like a point forward, utility wing. Was not top20 in assists / assists per game / assist rate (both Carsen and Cline were in all 3 categories). Very good defender and can do a little of everything
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Hausers update. It sounds like they are done to MSU if a certain player who averages 0 points a game loses his academic eligibility due to grades.
If said player doesn’t and nobody else unexpected leaves we are probably rolling into the season with an open spot and no hausers.
If said player doesn’t and nobody else unexpected leaves we are probably rolling into the season with an open spot and no hausers.
Yeah he’s a PG essentially because he brings it up and gets us into sets/motion, similar to what Octeus did a couple years ago and even PJ. The value we get out of him is that he can guard 1-4 and he gets us extra possessions and garbage buckets just by being so much bigger than the guy guarding him. But I’m not sure he works at the 1 if we don’t have a combo alongside him, which we pretty much always will.