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***Official 2019 B1G Off Season thread***

Who is the worst Purdue poster?

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I'm going to watch the hell out of the Big Ten this year.

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Kershaw is a starter not a reliever again that loss is solely on the manager. that why you have a bull pen to have relief pitchers to use not starters,

this is not HS or even College. every pro team has multiple relievers in their bull pens. stop blaming a player for trying to do something he is not paid to do.

would you let a welder, plaster your wall. or maybe a single engine pilot flying a 747? in the Pro's they have specialists to do certain jobs.
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here are top players this season using Rivals ratings
JR 4* #111 6'11 Garza
RSSO 4* 6'5 Connor
SO 4* #42 6'6 Wieskamp
FR 4* #75 6'8 Patrick

this just shows how big a hypocrite that @dukedevilz is
then you add in 7'0 Nunge and 6'8 Pemsl to the front court this makes a very formidal Front court.
 
here are top players this season using Rivals ratings
JR 4* #111 6'11 Garza
RSSO 4* 6'5 Connor
SO 4* #42 6'6 Wieskamp
FR 4* #75 6'8 Patrick

this just shows how big a hypocrite that @dukedevilz is
then you add in 7'0 Nunge and 6'8 Pemsl to the front court this makes a very formidal Front court.
Why is he a hypocrite? Because he doesn't think Iowa is a FF team, and or a team capable of reaching the FF? Dude---Iowa hasn't been to a FF in 39 years. Thats not being a hypocrite...

Thats called being smart..Laughing
 
@hailtoyourvictor here are a comparison of the stats between Teske and Garza
Teske 27.9 mpg
Garza 23.1 mpg
T 9.5 ppg 4th on the team
G 13.1 ppg 2nd on the team
T 7.0 rpg
G 4.5 rpg
T 2.0 bpg
G 0.5 bpg
T 52.1% from the field
G 53.1% from the field
T 29.9% from 3
G 29.2% from 3
T 59.3% from the FTL
G 80.4% from the FTL
T 7'1
G 6'11

other than Blocks and rebounds Garza was the better player playing 4.8 mpg less.

there is the avatar.
 
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@hailtoyourvictor here are a comparison of the stats between Teske and Garza
Teske 27.9 mpg
Garza 23.1 mpg
T 9.5 ppg 4th on the team
G 13.1 ppg 2nd on the team
T 7.0 rpg
G 4.5 rpg
T 2.0 bpg
G 0.5 bpg
T 52.1% from the field
G 53.1% from the field
T 29.9% from 3
G 29.2% from 3
T 59.3% from the FTL
G 80.4% from the FTL
T 7'1
G 6'11

other than Blocks and rebounds Garza was the better player playing 4.8 mpg less.

there is the avatar.

He actually posted the Heights of both players

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Why is he a hypocrite? Because he doesn't think Iowa is a FF team, and or a team capable of reaching the FF? Dude---Iowa hasn't been to a FF in 39 years. Thats not being a hypocrite...

Thats called being smart..Laughing
no he is a hypocrite by saying Iowa doesn't have good enough players or any top 50, top 100 or anybody in the top 150,

also saying that because Illinois's players will improve then implies that Iowa players won't,

to bad that he ignores these that could be this years starting 5
FR PG 4* by ESPN 6'0 Troussaint
RSSO CG 4* Top 100 6'5 Connor
JR SF 4* top 100 6'6 Wieskamp
FR F 4* top 100 6'8 Patrick
JR 4* C top 100 6'11 Garza

that still = 4 top 100 players that could start. the only ones that have not played are Toussaint or Patrick.

if Patrick plays like Wieskamp. THIS team will be far better than you or anybody WANT THEM TO BE.
 
He actually posted the Heights of both players

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this was to show each player in how they match up in showing who was/is better and nothing more.
this season they could go head to head or Nunge could get the head to head matchup

as Fran is going to positionless BB. as these can play these positions
Toussaint PG/SG or 1/2
Evelyn PG/SG or 1/2
Fredrick PG/SG/WG or 1/2/3
Connor PG/SG/WG or 1/2/3
Wierskamp SG/SF or 2/3
Patrick SG/SF/PF or 2/3/4 or even the 5 depending on the matchup
Till SF or 3
Kriener PF/C or 4/5
Garza F/C or 4/5
Nunge F/C or 4/5
these last 3 all can shoot out past the 3 point line, so the all can play inside or outside.

Pemsl SF/PF/C or 3/4/5 depending on the matchups is suspened right now but will start practicing with the team on Monday.

as a FR he started 17 games
19.3 mpg
8.9 ppg 4th on the team
5.0 rpg with these
Cook 5.3 rpg
Jok 5.5 rpg
Baer 5.8 rpg
a team effort in going after rebounds WHICH is how Fran wants it to be, play as a team win as a team or play as a team and lose as a team, that way nobody has to carry the team or shoulder the blame by themselves.

novel concept isn't it.
 
no he is a hypocrite by saying Iowa doesn't have good enough players or any top 50, top 100 or anybody in the top 150,

also saying that because Illinois's players will improve then implies that Iowa players won't,

to bad that he ignores these that could be this years starting 5
FR PG 4* by ESPN 6'0 Troussaint
RSSO CG 4* Top 100 6'5 Connor
JR SF 4* top 100 6'6 Wieskamp
FR F 4* top 100 6'8 Patrick
JR 4* C top 100 6'11 Garza

that still = 4 top 100 players that could start. the only ones that have not played are Toussaint or Patrick.

if Patrick plays like Wieskamp. THIS team will be far better than you or anybody WANT THEM TO BE.
No one cares about Iowa. They will finish 10th and Fran will have 5 Frantrums throughout the year.
 
@hailtoyourvictor here are a comparison of the stats between Teske and Garza
Teske 27.9 mpg
Garza 23.1 mpg
T 9.5 ppg 4th on the team
G 13.1 ppg 2nd on the team
T 7.0 rpg
G 4.5 rpg
T 2.0 bpg
G 0.5 bpg
T 52.1% from the field
G 53.1% from the field
T 29.9% from 3
G 29.2% from 3
T 59.3% from the FTL
G 80.4% from the FTL
T 7'1
G 6'11

other than Blocks and rebounds Garza was the better player playing 4.8 mpg less.

there is the avatar.

Teske better
 
This seems like some bullshit and I am not sure how they will be able to police it...

"The Purdue University trustees have approved a policy banning faculty, staff and non-athlete students from gambling on sporting events involving any Purdue teams, coaches or student-athletes.

The policy approved Thursday was developed at the urging of some faculty members and the Department of Intercollegiate Athletics after sports betting became legal in Indiana earlier this year. The policy applies to wagers placed worldwide and online.

Trustee Mike Berghoff said campus leaders weren't comfortable with the idea that the campus community could now legally bet on student-athletes in their classrooms and dormitories.

Faculty and staff violators of the rule would face discipline up to and including termination. Sanctioning guidelines for non-athlete student violators haven't been set yet."
Seems mostly like a CYA policy that's nearly impossible to enforce.

Unless people are posting their slips on social media, no one's getting punished.
 
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no he is a hypocrite by saying Iowa doesn't have good enough players or any top 50, top 100 or anybody in the top 150,

also saying that because Illinois's players will improve then implies that Iowa players won't,

THIS team will be far better than you or anybody WANT THEM TO BE.
He didn't say any of that.

Do you really think people concern themselves with Iowa?

Really?
 
Seems like a waste and if something like that was to happen it would be publicized pretty quick. Telling students of legal age they can not bet on Purdue is something that can not be forced.
Actually, they can include it in the student code of conduct, which is separate from anything they can do from a legal standpoint.

Frankly, I think it is being done to discourage rather than eliminate student betting but it's also being put there if something stupid happens (like a student threatens a student athlete because of a wager or something), they'll have recourse.

I'm sure other administrations are reviewing and I'd be stunned if some schools don't follow suit (and perhaps some in other states already have).
 
rutgers
Iowa
Northwestern
Minnesota
Nebraska
Michigan
Illinois
Purdue
OSU
Wisc
MSU
Psu
IU
Maryland

that was easy.
I mean this is bad, but good job. IU second? Maryland 1st? PSU 3rd? Wisconsin 5th? Three of the four likely will be on the bubble or not make the tournament.
 
no he is a hypocrite by saying Iowa doesn't have good enough players or any top 50, top 100 or anybody in the top 150,

also saying that because Illinois's players will improve then implies that Iowa players won't,

I don't believe I said any of that - or "implied" any of that.

Probably not the most accurate list out there. But, here's my top 150. I'm sure I missed a few.

74. Joe Wieskamp, Iowa

Don't think there's a huge difference between player 100 and player 175. I'd be okay if someone had LG in their top 150.

And yes, I assume Bohannon will be out for the season. I see them as a bubble team.

Wieskamp deserving a higher ranking is fair game. I could see him being a top 50 player. FWIW, he's the 10th ranked Big Ten Player on my list, which would make him 2nd Team All-Confernece. Not exactly chump-change.

Wait.Wait. Wait. I said Wieskamp could be a top 50 player?! That doesn't sound like something I would write. I distinctly remember saying Iowa sucks ass and can only hope to compete with the likes of Nebraska and Northwestern.

Also, fun fact to consider: bubble teams can make the tournament.

2nd round will remain your ceiling.

I even said you guys could make the 2nd round. Which I think is still very possible. If you guys make it the Round of 64 or 32, someone has to be improving to compensate for the losses of Cook, Bohannon, Moss, and Baer.

I also said Garza is probably good enough to be in the top 150. Not a huge difference between someone ranked 100th and someone else ranked 200th. Feel free to draw up your own rankings.

I'm usually much more generous with sophomores. Seems like that's where the biggest improvements occur.

Could this be the reason why I have a little more faith in Illinois? Is there a little difference between a team that was led by two freshmen from the previous season - and a team that returns 8 of their top 9 players? Iowa will be fine. But, they are losing 4 of their top 6 scores. Wieskamp absolutely could have a huge surge in productivity if he's hitting on all cylinders.

Honestly man, you seem a little insecure. Did you miss the part where I said I was okay if someone had Garza in the top 150 - or Wieskamp in the top 50. Those are perfectly reasonable assessments.

This again? I'm starting to repeat myself. Although, I'm sure you can appreciate that aspect.

I'm okay if someone doesn't have Illinois in the top 25. My issue was more with not even having them as the first 8 out. Tell you what. I'll gladly do an avatar bet with you. I'll wear an avatar of your liking for one month if Iowa finishes ahead of Illinois in the Big Ten.

I don't have any issues with journalists excluding Illinois from the top 25. I realize that's a little bit of a reach on my part. But, I think they're more than good enough to at least be considered a top 60 team. That's my issue. I openly said Iowa was a bubble team. Illinois, in my mind, should at least be considered a bubble team, if nothing else.
 
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Should be an entertaining year in the Big Ten. I’m excited to see Ohio State and Illinois, those are must watch teams for me. Seeing how Purdue bounces back from losing Edwards and seeing UM post Beilein will be interesting. MSU will be good basketball to watch. Not to mention the big man little man combo of Jalen “Logs” Smith (used to be sticks but his legs are logs now” and Anthony Cowen.

I’m excited for Big Ten basketball this year.

No doubt! A lot of exciting teams to see this year. I'm even a little intrigued by Rutgers.
 
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I mean this is bad, but good job. IU second? Maryland 1st? PSU 3rd? Wisconsin 5th? Three of the four likely will be on the bubble or not make the tournament.
Pretty sure he just put together a random list that has Mich outside the top 5.
 
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Actually, they can include it in the student code of conduct, which is separate from anything they can do from a legal standpoint.

Frankly, I think it is being done to discourage rather than eliminate student betting but it's also being put there if something stupid happens (like a student threatens a student athlete because of a wager or something), they'll have recourse.

I'm sure other administrations are reviewing and I'd be stunned if some schools don't follow suit (and perhaps some in other states already have).

My thing is it isn’t like students/faculty just now began betting on Purdue. Wether online or through a bookie the threatening a student athlete thing could have happened anytime since the creation of sports.
 
Teske better
why? because he plays for Michigan
lets compare a few stats
played 4+ mpg and still didn't avg dbl digits and was the 4th leading scorer
shot these
52.1% from the field a little lass than Garza
pretty even on shooting 3's
the major difference is in the FT shooting
Garza shot 80+% from the FTL
Teske shot 56+% from the FTL
this alone would put Teske on the bench in crunch time. because Teske would get the Hack a Shaq fouling approach.
 
why? because he plays for Michigan
lets compare a few stats
played 4+ mpg and still didn't avg dbl digits and was the 4th leading scorer
shot these
52.1% from the field a little lass than Garza
pretty even on shooting 3's
the major difference is in the FT shooting
Garza shot 80+% from the FTL
Teske shot 56+% from the FTL
this alone would put Teske on the bench in crunch time. because Teske would get the Hack a Shaq fouling approach.

Check big ten only stats it’s way more of an even comparison.
 
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I mean this is bad, but good job. IU second? Maryland 1st? PSU 3rd? Wisconsin 5th? Three of the four likely will be on the bubble or not make the tournament.

Completely random.

Seriously though, and I think preseason lists are pointless but here goes. I've read nothing about anyone or remember anything about anyone. Just an off the hip prediction.

MSU

Maryland

OSU
Purdue
UW
Michigan
Illinois
IU

Rutgers
Nebraska
Iowa
Minnesota
PSU



Northwestern
 
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why? because he plays for Michigan
lets compare a few stats
played 4+ mpg and still didn't avg dbl digits and was the 4th leading scorer
shot these
52.1% from the field a little lass than Garza
pretty even on shooting 3's
the major difference is in the FT shooting
Garza shot 80+% from the FTL
Teske shot 56+% from the FTL
this alone would put Teske on the bench in crunch time. because Teske would get the Hack a Shaq fouling approach.
What gets lost in just looking at stats is that defense is actually 50% of the game

Edit: And yes, Teske is miles ahead of Garza on the defensive end
 
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