***Official 2019 B1G Off Season thread***
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Certainly forgot how to shoot here in the clutch
Not really. He wasn’t a great FT shooter in his career.
To think that freshman are going to come in and average 40% probably isn’t a smart way to go.
Franklin was above 40% and I dont think he shoots 40% next year.
I think they’ll be in the 4-8 range. Trust me when I say I didn’t put a lot time into this quick ranking lol
I never said IT was going to shoot over 40% from 3. I used that stat to show he wasn’t a chucker.
It was already one of the worst years for shooting 3’s in B1G history. Sure it could get worse but I’d doubt that happens. But I also wouldn’t expect it to increase significantly either since you guys don’t really add anyone that’s known for being a shooter. Sure guys can improve from last year but you also lose two playmakers who helped free things up for the other guys. I expect a marginal increase.
You do realize that you lose 80% of your 3pt shots made, right? Nobody on Purdue shot better than anyone coming back for IU yet we’re going to be bad and Purdue is going to magically be good? Lol. Ok.....
I expect you guys to not be as good as you think.
Is 14 shots a game really chucking? Especially when he’s their best player by a long shot. For reference, Romeo averaged about 20 shots per game in high school.
I dont know. I simply asked if calling out a 3pt shooting percentage as a good way to “prove” he wasn’t a chucker. Lol
If shooting 40+% from three qualifies as "chucking" then I think you all have officially jumped the shark on overusing that word.
You do realize Purdue shot 37.4% from 3 and that included Carsen shooting 35.5% from 3? So while he made a lot, it actually hurt our overall percentage.
Oh and I’m pretty sure each of the last 2 years you didn’t expect us to be as good as we thought and that backfired on you just a bit.
And Cline and Eifert hit a high percentage. Stephonavic (sp?) was the only returning player to shoot 40% and that was on only like 25 made 3pt shots. Wheeler was a 36% and Hunter was at like 22%. So, I dont think it’s some certainty Purdue is going to be a good shooting team.
From a percentage perspective, Cline and Eifert were your best shooters. They are gone. You have two good shooters coming back SS and Wheeler.
@boiler1987 - Just to clarify man, I’m not saying IU is going to be a better shooting team or Purdue is going to be a bad shooting team. All I’m saying is that just assuming they’ll be a good shooting team isn’t backed by anything but hope IMO.
Wheeler/Sef/Hunter shot 34% on 192 3s
Green/Rob/Al shot 36% on 319 3s
Now you may bank on the kids coming in more than ours but thats on you, not based on anything substantial but past performance of previous players that doesn't include any of the above.
Going into this season Purdue only returned 31.8 ppg. Sometimes having guys that have been there for a few years really pays off when they get the opportunity.
Purdue will technically be young next season but you’ll have :
-Redshirt Junior Haarms (4th year in program)
-Junior Eastern (3rd year)
-redshirt sophomore Wheeler (3rd year)
-redshirt sophomore stefanovic (3rd year)
So while yes young in terms of class, that’s a decent amount of experience of being in the program and being ready to contribute when their name is called.
Shooting is the least of my concerns for next year’s team. Painter isn’t just stumbling on the Ryan clines and Sasha stefanovic’s by accident. He’s been adamant about recruiting elite shooters in every class.
It’s like literally the only reason he was even offered a scholarship. Unless his 41% from 3 in a limited role this season says something otherwise?
how a team defends certain players can and do affect their shooting %'s,
as a SO Jordan shot 43% in the 17-18 season, this season teams made him the focal point of their defense and he shot 38.3%, as a FR he shot 41.6% from 3.
teams shift their defenses to meet the players,
FR Wieskamp shot 42.4% from 3 and Moss improved to 42.1% from 3. so this fall it is a question as to who they will focus on as far as 3 point shooters go.
so predicting who is going to do what will have to wait until more information comes out.
as a SO Jordan shot 43% in the 17-18 season, this season teams made him the focal point of their defense and he shot 38.3%, as a FR he shot 41.6% from 3.
teams shift their defenses to meet the players,
FR Wieskamp shot 42.4% from 3 and Moss improved to 42.1% from 3. so this fall it is a question as to who they will focus on as far as 3 point shooters go.
so predicting who is going to do what will have to wait until more information comes out.
For the record I don't think Purdue will be a bad shooting team, they should be pretty good, but not what they were this year from 3s, at least from a volume standpoint. I think they pound it inside a little more which could lead to more of an inside out game and possibly higher % but there's not chucker and cline was chuker light, not in a bad sense they both were should have a green light. Just saying that the numbers may reflect more of a change in offensive philosophy more so than the quality of shooters. Same can be said for both teams, or any team in college basketball for that matter.
Shooting over 40% on his amount of attempts? Yeah, shooting isn’t greens problem. Greens problem is that he plays like a dumbass.
FU its a free country and free board that you don't own or control.
And he was recruited because he’s an elite shooter and has done nothing to prove that to be wrong.
Who thought going into the year that Eifert was going to shoot the highest percentage on the team last year? I’m guessing probably nobody? I don’t necessarily think we’ll be a good shooting team. Just that we’ll be better than IU.
Appreciate the shout out! We played Geo Baker out of position last year at point. We bring in a big time NJ PG (Paul Mulcahy) and Texas transfer Jacob Young who also looks like he can play the “1”.
Our kids have gotten better every year under Pikiell. We have gone from laughably awful to almost not bad. We were an Iowa answered prayer at the buzzer away from 8-12 and the same conference record as OSU. We might be good next year.
Greens problem is he isn't a PG. He trys too much to make flashy plays, this has been said since the beginning of time and Archie has expressed this from his first day. Phinisee should help that, Green not having the ball as much in his hands and more of a shooter. Hopefully that helps him more this year having to play off the ball more so with Romeo gone.
That’s fair. I just think based on what we’ve seen in recent years it’ll be another solid shooting team. Coming into the year, Cline was really the only known “shooter” you know? Carsen had his moment of course though.
Yeah I agree with that, I think they’ll work it into Haarms/Trevion more. I’m just not worried about spacing/shooting next season at all.
I'll say Purdue will be the better shooting team, the gap will narrow, volume and percentage.
And that’s fine and may be the case. I don’t expect either to be overly good shooting teams. But just to continue on the same theme, nothing returning for Purdue screams they are significantly better than IU or a lot of other B10 teams.
I would like to see a logical and thoughtful reply from @B-Westy on this post as it seems most here are being sensible.
So what are you trying to argue? Just because he was recruited for his shooting and shot well as a freshman in a limited sample that he all of a sudden is going to be a shitty shooter next season?