More Passionate: UK Fans or the Folks That Dislike UK Fans?
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It’s just the fact that you started the whole argument with Kentuckians have nothing to be proud of except cbb, bc we don’t have a pro team in the state.
Here's the problem: I didn't say this. You guys keep putting words in my mouth and ignoring the response. Then we go in circles.
Again, I've said nothing about state lines or the lack of a pro team in the state of Kentucky. I acknowledge that there are plenty of Reds, Titans, Bengals and even Cardinals fans in KY. I also never said they have "nothing to be proud of."
My original statement was that UK fans obsess (and brag) about CBB year-round because many of them haven't had much to brag about in other sports over the last few decades. As in, reaching the height of that respective sport. Obviously, Cardinals fans would be one exception. But again, I'm only saying that a large portion of them don't follow teams that have reached the height of their sport in the last 2-3 decades.
The only asinine point here is this technicality regarding KC. Who cares which side of state line the team is on? All that matters is that there's a complex with two pro teams in the KC metro. For many Kansans, it's a short drive. Not a few hundred miles, like STL to KY. The local media is 100% focused on Chiefs/Royals. Also, KC's a little unique in that it's split between two states.
And I never said that one can't be a diehard fan of a team that isn't nearby, although I did say that I question whether a huge percentage of the STL fans in Kentucky are diehards. Do you really think that the average Cardinals fan in KY is as diehard as a fan that lives a couple blocks from the stadium?
Not many ghettos in West memphis, those are mostly short south, short north, and short east.
Just can't help but leave everything he touches in shambles. Dirty bastard.
tick tock, it's only a matter a time. hang 'em with velcro.
You guys are lucky with your aww shucks Roy. I know the history, but come on. We're all fans here.
While Roy is my guy, Cal is definitely a top 5 for me. I really do like the dude.
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...the offseason moves they made and the roster they've built doesn't look like they're 'not giving a darn'.
I would rather read ten pages of Carolina scandal or the politics thread than read another post about baseball on this board. Gross.
But u also had a post, in another thread as you mentioned, where u said something along the lines of 2012 til now is a long time without having anything to be proud of, or something. I’m not going digging to try and find the thread.
I’ll concede, you didn’t say “Proud of” in this thread. You were right and I was wrong, and didn’t mean to put words in your mouth.
But both programs field football teams, as well, they just aren’t as successful. So while you didn’t technically say the words “proud of” in the post, it’s pretty easy to read between the lines. Especially when you went on to cite the Royals WS and Chiefs SB as why Kansas has more going on than Kentucky on the “sports front” as you put it.
And yes I know Stl Cardinal fans in WKY who are as die hard as they come. One of my buddies has seen the cardinals play in every MLB stadium in America, except the west coast (dodgers, Giants, A’s, mariners, padres, diamondbacks were the only ones he lacked the last time I talked to him). And he watches all 162 games of the season bc he gets the direct ticket or all access MLB on his satellite and told me he’s only missed like 6 games in the last decade, and that was bc he was hospitalized. Granted some of them he watched on dvr, but the point remains. And I also have a neighbor who never misses a reds game. He isn’t as wealthy and doesn’t travel to many away games, but he catches 10-12 in Cincy every year. Point being you can be a diehard fan without living in the city.
I mean just think about your argument for a second. Think of all the diehard Cardinals fans that do live in stl. Now if one of them gets promoted or has to move out of the city, does that automatically reduce their diehard fanhood status? And also I’m sure there are plenty of baseball fans in STL that are fans of teams other than the Cardinals.
I will concede though, that if Kentuckians were forced to choose, UK basketball or (insert favorite baseball team or football team here) then yes Probly 99% are going to choose uk basketball. Same with UL fans. But I imagine it’s pretty close to the same in Kansas regarding KU and the Chiefs or royals.
But I just can’t buy the, “do u really think Cardinal fans in WKY are as diehard as people living a couple blocks from Stl’s stadium” Hell im sure there are people in St. Louis that could hit the stadium with a golf ball that don’t give a damn about the cardinals. I guess point being, everyone is different, so you can’t lump everyone into the same category regarding their passion for their team, regardless of state lines or teams they root for.
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I'm just saying that the average person who grew up near Busch Stadium is more likely to be a diehard than someone who grew up in Kentucky. The biggest diehard on the planet could be living in KY, but he probably doesn't represent the average resident.
And my "all they have on the sporting front" post was mainly referring to JC and others that I know are Reds fans and/or don't follow a very successful NFL team. The original comment from a different thread was aimed at JC.
As for UK football, obviously they've done better over the last few years, but c'mon....even KU football has reached greater heights and had more ranked teams over the last few decades.
….and here we have Baracus reversing his own logic. As 'modern era' was once so important to him, here he goes in the opposite direction in his UK/KU football comments.
….dude... all you do is spin. Only Della can match your effort in that department.
That doesn't even make sense. I am talking about the modern era of football.
In the last 3 decades, Kentucky has finished ranked once; KU three times. And KU won the Orange Bowl 12 yrs ago.
….you clearly went against your own 'modern era' logic you've been spouting here so much in reference to the successes of UK and KU basketball.... switching it around to fit your narrative about 'UK football has had more recent success' but KU football has 'reached greater heights' the 'last few decades'.
...spin....spin....spin.
If I were going against the “modern era” logic, I’d be touting accomplishments from many decades ago. Unless you think the modern era began a few years ago?
Again, you’re making no sense.
You’re the only spinster here. Some days it’s the last 10 years that matter. Some days only championships matter (until UCLA is mentioned).
For football, you apparently only want to talk about the last couple years. As if they won anything substantial anyway.
Of course this thread has already gone 8 pages. This forum sucks balls during the off season.
….they've been wining bowl games... over teams like Penn St and Virginia Tech. KU...?
Keep playing dumb (I'm sure that comes easy for you).... anyone can see you're talking out both sides of your mouth.
I know many of you are really insecure and can't handle when someone points out the stupidity of your argument, but what do you say to someone who doesn't know the meaning of the word opposite?
Nothing I've said is inconsistent with "modern era" timeframing. But you have to have a sliver of sense to see this.
I’ll concede ur probably right on the Cardinals thing as far a likelihood and my buddy not representing the average resident.
the reason I mentioned to football teams, is bc yes they haven’t been great, but it’s still something we have on the “sports front” which is why I said it was pretty clear u were implying kentuckians have nothing to be proud of except cbb on the sports front. U didn’t say the words (in this thread at least) but it was implied or you would have said all they have is college basketball and college football.
regardless I’m tired of arguing this, so take it as a win if u want, idc. I’m gonna bow out of this thread/argument, bc imo its pretty pointless.
Well, I've already repeated myself about 6,000 times. One more won't hurt, I guess.
KC won the SB and is primed for a lot of success. The Royals went to back to back World Series and won one. KU won the national title and the Orange Bowl in football. And KC won the MLS title. In a little over a decade.
And it’s only May. Fml..
Longer offseason than folks are accustomed to. We might see some real crazy around July/August.
….again, more evading of the point.
UK/KU Hoops- Baracus: "We're better in the modern era."
UK/KU Football- Baracus: "UK has had more recent success, but KU has achieved/been ranked more over the last few decades."
….herein lies you contradicting your 'modern era' logic. Can't have it both, ways, clown. Your precious 'modern era' argument you've been clinging to until today got thrown away when it didn't fit your narrative.
I've been discussing the last few decades throughout the whole conversation, so I was keeping it consistent, actually. Not sure what you think I was trying to evade. Going back to the start of the modern era (1980) doesn't change either point. KU still has the only BCS bowl win in that span and more ranked teams.
Another fail.
If KU had to play in the SEC, do you honestly think they would get enough wins to qualify for an Orange Bowl? Be honest.
It just depends on the schedule. They were fortunate to avoid Oklahoma and Texas that year or they may not have done it. But they did beat a top 5 team and rolled some other decent teams.
It’s funny that you act like the Big 12 was vastly inferior when it had 4 teams that finished in the top 10. Imagine if you applied the same standard to SEC basketball.
Context helps.
He was claiming that I had said that one could not be a huge fan unless they lived within close proximity. Which I never said. Yes, I do think that there are more diehards in STL than in Kentucky. Hot take, I know.
It's easier to stay in the top 10 when you play a weaker schedule. When you have to play LSU, then turn around and head to the swamp, then play Georgia, then head to Tennesse.… you get the point and I didn't even bring up Bama, aTm or Auburn… good luck staying in the top 25.
I'll give you credit, you fight to the death to avoid admitting you were wrong and you spin more than the guy with the fake wife.
That’s the breaks when you play in a football conference. I bet a basketball school would do really well in a conference that only cares about football.
Why are you being so hard on the BIG12? The SEC has 3 programs that have won titles since 95, the BIG12 has one program that has won a title since what, the 40's? Yeah, good talk.
And don't act like ACC basketball is as dominant as SEC football, it's not close.
All I said was a basketball school would do really well in a conference that generally only cares about football.
Don’t spin it & make it more than it is.
