Oh, so compassion is an objective thing that can be proven factually now?
If you understand it, you should also know that however bad President Clinton's '96 immigration law may be, it is nothing more than a scapegoat for this completely unnecessary and immoral policy.
This. Over and over. All I have done is pound my own head against the wall ITT on this topic. It is why I don't like discussing it to begin with. People will question your empathy, compassion and morals if you say something, anything other than "it is horrible that families are being separated". It goes without saying. It is horrible, we all want a solution. But some want to use common sense and see a bigger picture. And some have tunnel vision and go with a false and unfair narrative.
Not sure why you think I don’t understand? I just said I’m not a fan. If you can find me a link showing the outrage and horrible things said about president Clinton when he made the law in 96, I will bow out. Just calling out the double standard, not necessarily on this board, in general though. Even though you understand what happened 20 years ago, most people do not. They use their hatred for our current President as fuel to be keyboard warriors who act big and loud on social media. Even in today’s world, Clinton wouldn’t be lashed at nearly the way Trump has been.
You are judging a stranger's compassion based on believing there is more to a situation than what is being portrayed by liberals and the msm. Based on discussing facts that don't support your narrative.
You think threads from the Internet as it existed in 1996 are available anywhere?
I didn't question it. I answered it. You threw down the gauntlet. I picked it up, turned you over my knee, and paddled you with it. Now you're crying about opinions and how condescending it was when I thoroughly, completely trashed you.
Hey Datt, these people are breaking the law. They are endangering their own children to do so. If it were so terrible, getting their kids separated from them while they're moved along through the process, why cross illegally? Don't cross illegally and there wouldn't be any issue. Problem solved.
You oversimplify and victim-blame. They're committing a misdemeanor in order to escape situations where they may be murdered.
You having a bad day? Or was this not nasty enough for you lefties?
Good job bro. You firmly put me in my place.
Dat doesn’t care that parents are endangering their own children. He doesn’t care that these illegals KNOW THE RISK of entering the country illegally. Just blame Trump, rinse, and repeat. It is possible to place blame on both sides, believe it or not.
They can enter at ports of entry. LEGALLY. that wouldn't even be a misdemeanor. If a poor person walks by a food shelter to go into a grocery store and steal, should he not be prosecuted?
And you're excluding the people who are taking advantage of the system. It goes both ways. There are people who claim they're seeking "asylum" and have been coached by lawyers on what to say. It's waaaaaay more complex than we can get into here. Yet, the MSM and the Democrats are literally screaming about the issue like it's a simple fix. It's not. The Democratic bill put forward recently shows they have zero desire to fix immigration. They want to open the borders as much as possible. Trump is fixing a broken system and enforcing the laws on the books. And you know what? I'm glad he is. It's about time.
You're calling out a double standard that is irrelevant and therefore entirely hypothetical.
I feel like he had been better lately? At least as far as the back handed insults go. Maybe not.
Insultingly stupid.
The reason it takes a unanimous verdict to convict someone in a criminal trial is because it is far preferable that people who did it get away w/ it than that innocent people hang. That's why the burden of proof is on the prosecution and people are innocent until proven guilty and profiling is wrong, etc, etc.
They're all breaking the law, Datt. They're entering our country ILLEGALLY.
I’ll remember this quote for when the shoe is on the other foot. Won’t be long before I use it, I bet.
Hmm. They weren't arrested, weren't separated from their families. Come back and try again. From your article.
Not quite. The detention centers were a big part of the narrative. They were used to spark outrage. Now that it is known that the majority of the kids in the centers were not separated by our government, it is off topic to bring it up.
Completely took me out of context, which I’m sure you meant to do. I also added “if” right before the STFU, maybe you missed that? Probably left it off on purpose. Regardless, if what I posted doesn’t apply to you, then you have nothing to worry about.
If you're using it correctly, it will be after an occasion where I present you with two deliberately stupid, trolling choices, you ignore them and give an on-topic response like an actual adult, then I continue the troll act. But then, you didn't specify you'd be using it correctly, so yeah, I'm sure it'll be as soon as possible.
It's a misdemeanor. Separating children from parents is new, official policy being used as a weapon to intimidate even legitimate asylum seekers.
My point had to do with how insultingly stupid it is to act as if the simple solution is just going to a correct point of entry. I'll add that it's tone deaf and lacking in compassion.
I have never claimed that there is a simple solution. I only suggested that there is no crime if they enter at points of entry. You said "correct" point of entry. So, I guess that you know that entering anywhere else would be incorrect. Which is against the law.
And you're unlikely to, as long as you fight against admitting there is a problem.
Or not coming into the country illegally. That would solve the problem too.
It would fail to solve a worse problem.
Seriously? One is willfully breaking a law. You can’t help get sick. You can’t help where you’re born. Surely you aren’t this stupid.
