You would take Flagg over Zion?
If Zion didn’t take that injury break, that team wins the title.
This is the loss Duke needed
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If Zion didn’t take that injury break, that team wins the title.
The Zion team peaked game 1. They should have lost in the second round. Some interesting refereeing and a missed shot from 1 foot is the only thing that saved them. Truly Coach K's worst coaching job
Yes. Flagg over Zion.
And I disagree, they had not inside presence. Just a bunch of forwards and no great shooters.
This is the best team in 15 years to me.
Best team in 15 years? LOL, no way. 2012 UK, 2015 UK, 2019 Duke and probably 2017 unc doesn’t lose to UK, KU and Clemson.
2 of those losses happened early in the year and Clemson is a ranked team that Duke lost to on the road. All of the metrics have this team ranked a lot higher than those other teams. The eye test confirms it too.
You couldn't possibly watch this team this year with the different sets they were running and believe that. Scheyer is killing it on the recruiting trail and his in game management will improve over time. Are there any blue bloods in a better position right now to have success over the next decade?
The eye test saw duke choked that lead too.
How are you going to call this the best team when they weren't the best team this year?
The eye test confirms that Duke slapped around an awful conference, as they should've.
K did the same thing.
You win the off season and that doesn't always translate to titles.
When you beat bad teams by 20 and 30 points, your metrics are going to soar, but it’s flawed metrics.
This duke team was phenomenal, no doubt, but it’s not close to the best team the last 15 years.
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They were almost as good as this year's Houston team according to the metrics so they would've had a shot. Your offense wasn't good enough to "deep dick" an elite college offense though and our defense was way better than that Wisconsin team you lost to.
Duke beat Alabama by 20, Illinois by 40, Baylor by 23 and Arizona by 14 on the road. Our only losses were to ranked teams and we went undefeated at home.
You realize 2012 and 2015 Kentucky played in dog shit SECs right? Your point differential wasn't close to ours.
That 2012 UK team was different, duke wouldn't of beat them.
The 2015 UK team Cal managed to do what Scheyer did but in a different way.
At then end of the day you will be remembered by making only 1 FG with 9+ minutes left.
Great teams don't let that happen, duke will be remembered for pulling off the choke job of the century
and probably before then.
No matter how you spin it your boys choked plain and simple and the entire country saw it.
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The 2024-2025 UK team would beat the 2024-2025 Duke team. They were nowhere near the '15, '12, '10 team. It would have been fun watching them play the '10 team.
Fox, Monk, and Adeboyo team would have beaten this Duke team.
in the hypothetical game, none of you bitches (trademark owned by @Rod Dangerfield ) are touching 1981 DePaul!
Agreed, this is Duke's version of the 2015 Kentucky team with a bigger choke job loss in the Final 4.
The future is bright though. Our coach still hasn't hit his coaching prime and he's already recruiting circles around everyone.
In our next decade I'd be shocked if Duke didn't win 2 titles, go to 4 Final 4s, make 8 Sweet 16s and win a ton of ACC championships.
No other blue blood can have this level of confidence in their program going forward.
Your prediction history is under the Mendoza Line by a ton, you may wanna chill on that.
The future has always been bright for duke, the question is can you cash it in?
Scheyer laid an egg big time, who's to say that won't happen again?
Who cares that he is recruiting at a high level? Duke has had the either the first or second best recruiting class the past decade, and no championships to show for it.
You are elevating Scheyer to a level he does not deserve. Congrats on having a coach who craps down his pants in tight games.
By the way, I am beyond thrilled with Mark Pope, who is a better coach than Scheyer. He coached circles around him with a vastly inferior roster. Not to mention, Pope went to a Sweet 16 his first year after inheriting an empty roster and filling it with leftover portal guys.
On the flipside, Scheyer spent his first year sucking off K's tits and reaping the benefit of a #1 recruiting class, only to get beat down by UT in the second round.
Duke vs Kentucky is like the Gold vs Silver in the Underachieving Olympics.
And another Gold Medal.
Apparently, continuing to recruit at the same level while downgrading at HC is the key to a more dominant future.
Chances are, Duke won’t have another team this good for a long time.
Neither has ever underacheived like this though.
That never happened. Clearly AI generatedNeither has ever underacheived like this though.
Skip Dillard (who later served 11 years for 15 armed robberies) was the point guard.
This was a perfectly balanced roster. My biggest concerns for Duke was Scheyer and Proctor. Both are huge reasons they lost. I agree I don't see them having a roster this good for a while. But they'll have an elite talent roster every year because they can outpay everyone.
Hey man, you've got to build up some expectations first before you can underachieve them.
In the last 5 years, Duke has been to 2 Final 4s and another Elite 8 while winning 2 ACC regular season titles and 2 ACC championships. Kentucky has no conference hardware of any kind and 1 Sweet 16 appearance,
These aren't comparable programs right now but maybe Pope can bring them back to relevancy.
They won't, I think Scheyer will likely coach for another 2 decades and this will probably be looked back as his GOAT team. Luckily college basketball won't be this stacked every year and the best team doesn't always win. If you keep getting to the Sweet 16 and beyond, shit will eventually break your way.
With Scheyer, expect 1st or 2nd round losses for Duke to rarely happen since this new era is tailormade for recruiting powerhouses. Duke will get the bast talent, have some upperclassmen develop and then plug in the holes with proven performers at lower levels of college hoops or successful role players from other high major programs.
Upsets will be more rare.
You trying like hell to spin that choke job as a positive.
The only way Scheyer can fix that is to pull a UVA next year and I don't see that happening.
This duke team never saw a single team the likes of 2012 UK, 2015 UK, or 2017 NC. But you can certainly dream I guess.
This thread is like the message board version of playing Dungeons & Dragons. But, instead of wizards and elves, your characters are specific season college basketball teams.
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