It goes way beyond the top 20. Hell, they’ve already busted several outside the top 20.
Fear the Beard
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It goes way beyond the top 20. Hell, they’ve already busted several outside the top 20.
He gets all the props in the world but literally every coach says this. They don't take the job and say I want to take this program to an 18-15 record and first round loss.
Okay lets break it down.
1999–2000 Fort Scott CC
2000–2001 Seminole State JC
2001–2011 Texas Tech (assoc. HC) - Left after getting into it with BCG over how he treated the players.
2011–2012 South Carolina Warriors (ABA team)
2012–2013 McMurry (NCAA Division II)
2013–2015 Angelo State (NCAA Division II and part of Texas Tech University System)
2015–2016 Little Rock (NCAA Division I)
2016–present Texas Tech
Point is he's been at multiple schools recently but each job has been an improvement in someway. ABA driving the bus, Div 2, Div 2, Div 1 mid-major, Div 1 power conference.
Yes and my point is he has no problem leaving a job. Now could he pull a Mark Few? Sure, but the numbers aren't favorable for it to happen. I mean he left UNLV without a second thought, the mans word isn't worth much. He's likely the next Arizona head coach.
He's not competitive at all. Can't you tell? Your posts are comical.
Then why would he lock himself down at Texas Tech and limit himself? If you don't think Arizona or UCLA would right him a large $5mil check you're crazy.
Look where those schools are located. If you are relatively intelligent, you will get the drift. He also had a long tenure as an assistant.
Even if his words are genuine, I guarantee that he’d at least strongly consider if Duke or KU called. Those opportunities don’t come along every day.
Bill Self said the exact same thing to Illinois fans, btw.
He has no problem leaving a program. There's probably a dozen or more programs that would provide more than Texas Tech, this already taken into your consideration that he likes it in Lubbock, and at least 2 of them are open already, its not a slight its just reality.
KU will be on probation soon so I am not sure that would be the case. BTW, there is a very good chance KU will be open very soon.
Were you made to sit in the front of class because you don't pay attention? There are other factors outside of liking Lubbock. I will let you re-read. He is going to get a nice raise as well.
A coach would have to be a real buffoon to turn down a job like that because they might lose a few scholarships. Give me a break.
Why specifically do you think the job will open soon?
Are they going to pay 4-5mil? How about practice facilities? Locker rooms? Player dorms? Private planes? Higher asst pay pool? There's more than just giving a guy another 500k a year and expecting him to be happy.
the UCLA program is in a position as it can recruit on name alone, there is also the numbers of highly rated recruits are better. the downside if you can call it a downside is the fact UCLA fans expect FF's on a annual basis.
They don't understand the sport that they just started caring about, and are on cloud 9 right now with a very winnable Final Four on deck (congrats again BTW TT fans), so they are not going to look at things reasonably right now, and for good cause. Admittedly, we can all be wrong about Beard and he could stay there forever. We could all be wrong and this seemingly once in a lifetime event for TT fans will become commonplace. Why? I don't know why anyone would willingly be a lifer at a run of the mill program that values football over basketball, but anything is possible.
Self is going to be subpoenaed in the next round of trials. I believe he will bolt to the NBA prior to being forced out.
One thing is for certain, and you are right. You don't know. I guess it is human nature to project negative outcomes for others when one's own situation has taken a downturn. I wonder why a WVU fan would try and disparage a conference mate. Hey, you can claim the mountaineers beat the National Champion if Tech wins it. You guys are fortunate to be in the B12.
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It’s pretty easy to see a scenario in which they fall short this year and never get back, with a number of average/mediocre years to come. And then all those football fans check out, because basketball is only worth their time if the results are exceptional.
Yeah I'm not saying 100% TT won't decide to put 100s of millions into their program or that Beard won't pull a Few and pick a comfortable life over succeeding at the highest level of the sport. One or both will have to happen for Beard to stay. It doesn't happen very often, the numbers don't support it. Schools like Texas, Bama, etc that have a huge football program can afford to put some extra money into their basketball program, TT football isn't at that level to support the basketball program to the level they'll need to in order to keep Beard.
Same thing was said last year when they went to the elite 8 and then lost 5 Sr and a Freshman NBA 1st rounder.
I thought winning a National Title was winning at the highest level of the sport. I think you are just confused about what constitutes success.
No doubt that will help keep him as it shows he can succeed at TT but can it be sustained? It will force TT to dump money into their program if they want to keep Beard. It'll also make Beard even more of a wanted man. He's the 28th highest paid coach as of today. I'm not entirely familiar with TT athletic budget but as of last reported they were ranked 44th in the country in athletic revenue. I'm not sold that they can continue to afford Beard. You're not getting trolled or whatever you think it is. This is a tale as old as time and almost every other time it ends with the coach taking a job at a better program.
I don't "hate" on other programs. I don't put blue and gold shades on either and blindly praise everything WVU does either. Im a longtime CBB fan that went to WVU and Im offering my two cents, the school I went to doesn't mean that I am comparing WVU and TT. Ive been following CBB for a long time, coaches leave secondary programs, its just life in this sport and business. The only coaches I can recall in my timeframe of following the sport that have stuck it out at a previously less than desirable job for life is Few and Calhoun, and the business and game have grown exponentially and changed dramatically since then, additionally those coaches were at basketball schools without football towering over their program.
So...we should believe Beard when he says that he wants to stay at a mediocre program for life, but not take Self at his word when he emphatically states that he not only wants to stay at KU, but is motivated to coach longer than he previously planned to?
That kind of goes against your argument though that he won’t jump for a blue blood or blue blood light. If he jumps when he has a chance to move up, then why wouldn’t he if he gets another chance, i.e. going to a hostorical powerhouse. I’m not saying he will, I’m staying out of that argument. Just pointing out that your post didn’t support your argument.
I doubt we’ll be on probation, but even if we are, we’ll be able to attract a quality coach.
Nobody ever said Self didn't want to stay. He will be getting out ahead of the Posse, imo. His complicity in the Adidas recruit funding scandal is going to force his hand. Pitino didn't get the chance to move on ahead of the Posse, but Self is. I believe KU has been on probation more often than the residents in the Leavenworth Federal Hotel.
this year you had 3 SR's. only see also since this Beards 3rd season he was using someone elses recruits, unless they were all transfers,
Duke, UNC, Kentucky, etc I worry about. Not sure he would want to go to Kansas and play Tech twice a year but maybe he will do that.
Yes. He makes like 3 mil something now. Now we got that NCAA tournament money.
Under construction is the 23+ mil budget practice facility. "The Dustin R. Womble Basketball Center for both Men's and Women's basketball programs. The facility will house, at a minimum, 2 practice courts with associated run-off space and bleachers, locker rooms for both men and women programs, coaches offices, trainer area, catering & dining space, two film review rooms, 2 team lounge spaces, as well as all associated current day practice facility amenities specific to top tier Division 1 basketball. The facility will be located west of USA and Indiana with pedestrian walkway between the two facilities. Utilities will be independent to the new facility."
We can redo the locker rooms however he wants. Not sure where the players live now but we can build a dorm. Pretty sure we have a planes and the airport is maybe 10 mins from campus. We can pay assistants.
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