Can we get an apology from everyone who doubted the Big Ten?

[hailtoyourvictor]

Are we talking about last year or this year?

Bottom line is, Michigan didn't win last year and they aren't winning this year.

But instead of beating around the bush, why don't you tell me where I am wrong?

Are you saying the BIG10 has a better title contending team than UNC, UVA or Duke? I don't.

I'm pointing out how useless the term "true title contender is".

Virginia was a "true title contender" last season and lost to a 16 seed.

Michigan wasn't a "true title contender" last season and made the National Championship game.


The phrase is stupid and when you trumpet it around you look like a simpleton. Find better and less played out phrases.

 

[kyjeff1]

but your FR are 1 n done players, ready to play in the NBA from day 1 when they get drafted. BIG difference between 1 n done players and 4 year player that develop as they get older.

Iowa has had just one 1 n done player and that was 20 years ago. if and that is a big IF Fran can get a couple 5* 1 n done players then the expectations of them reaching the FF the expectation of going to the FF goes up 10X Fold.

next year the expectation will go up with 5 SR's on the team, 1 of them being #38 #8 PF By ESPN Cook top 100 by Rivals
then there is SO F Wieskamp #42 by Rivals and top 100 by ESPN,

LIKE I said there is a big difference between 5* 1 n done players and even 4* 3-4 year players that need to be developed.

every year Kentucky has to replace those 5* players and they ussually do with more 5* 1 n done players.
Duke is loaded with 5* players with Zion being a possible #1 pick.

Stopped reading again after the first sentence (bolded part). That is a completely false statement.

Again, if you think it's easier to start over from scratch every year with a bunch of new players that have never played before against veteran teams that have been in power 5 college programs with college coaching, strength training and weight training, then you are clueless.

Keep in mind, there is a HUGE difference between one and done players (Keldon Johnson, Herro, Shai Alexander, Tre Jones etc ..) and transcendent players (Anthony Davis, Zion, Barrett, Karl Anthony Townes etc). You're acting like UK has a team full of transcendent players and that is where you fail in this argument .

 

[dragonhawk1855]

Don't tell Della, but I will be a Hawk tomorrow at 11:10 CST.

your secret is safe with me.
this will be Iowa's 3 game against the #2 seed in the NCAAT
Gonzaga was the 1st
Villinova was the 2nd and they won the NCAAT Championship
now Tennessee

maybe the old adage about the 3rd times the charm. will work in Iowa's favor.

 

[kyjeff1]

I'm pointing out how useless the term "true title contender is".

Virginia was a "true title contender" last season and lost to a 16 seed.

Michigan wasn't a "true title contender" last season and made the National Championship game.


The phrase is stupid and when you trumpet it around you look like a simpleton. Find better and less played out phrases.

Again, Michigan didn't win the title last year and I really don't care what your opinion is on this. I really don't.

If you think the term "true title contender" is a simplistic term, then that's on you. Sorry you don't understand what it is, but it's the truth.

Again though, you're purposely avoiding the question. Is there a BIG10 team that is a stronger title contender than any of the top 3 ACC teams? Answer the question.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

Stopped reading again after the first sentence (bolded part). That is a completely false statement.

Again, if you think it's easier to start over from scratch every year with a bunch of new players that have never played before against veteran teams that have been in power 5 college programs with college coaching, strength training and weight training, then you are clueless.

Keep in mind, there is a HUGE difference between one and done players (Keldon Johnson, Herro, Shai Alexander, Tre Jones etc ..) and transcendent players (Anthony Davis, Zion, Barrett, Karl Anthony Townes etc). You're acting like UK has a team full of transcendent players and that is where you fail in this argument .

Multiple UK fans on your forum told me that Kentucky would beat an All Big Ten team.

 

[dragonhawk1855]

Stopped reading again after the first sentence (bolded part). That is a completely false statement.

Again, if you think it's easier to start over from scratch every year with a bunch of new players that have never played before against veteran teams that have been in power 5 college programs with college coaching, strength training and weight training, then you are clueless.

Keep in mind, there is a HUGE difference between one and done players (Keldon Johnson, Herro, Shai Alexander, Tre Jones etc ..) and transcendent players (Anthony Davis, Zion, Barrett, Karl Anthony Townes etc). You're acting like UK has a team full of transcendent players and that is where you fail in this argument .

blah blah b*** s*** blah blah, maybe Cal should stop recruiting those 5* players since you think they can't reach the FF.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

Again, Michigan didn't win the title last year and I really don't care what your opinion is on this. I really don't.

If you think the term "true title contender" is a simplistic term, then that's on you. Sorry you don't understand what it is, but it's the truth.

Again though, you're purposely avoiding the question. Is there a BIG10 team that is a stronger title contender than any of the top 3 ACC teams? Answer the question.

Michigan wasn't a "true contender" last year. Michigan made the national championship game.
Virginia was a "true contender" last year. Virginia lost to a 16 seed.


Silly phrase. You are a parrot.

 

[VulvHa]

Multiple UK fans on your forum told me that Kentucky would beat an All Big Ten team.

Yikes

 

[lurkeraspect84]

You are a parrot.

Laughing

 

[Bert Higginbotha]

Hell, I am rooting for the Big Ten as the dumbass talking heads on ESPN, all ACC; mostly Duke just announced that Kentucky should forfeit the game with Wofford.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Multiple UK fans on your forum told me that Kentucky would beat an All Big Ten team.

I thought to ask for a link just to see if you'd spend time, but to be honest, I couldn't care less.I'll just chalk it up to one of those.

I'm not sure how to say this.

Some fans rely on stats to talk smack. On court success.

some other fans poke holes in homers smack talk.

Does that make sense?

 

[FaithPlusOne]

Hell, I am rooting for the Big Ten as the dumbass talking heads on ESPN, all ACC; mostly Duke just announced that Kentucky should forfeit the game with Wofford.

I was really looking forward to that game, but if you decide to forfeit I think we can all get on board with that.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

Hell, I am rooting for the Big Ten as the dumbass talking heads on ESPN, all ACC; mostly Duke just announced that Kentucky should forfeit the game with Wofford.

Kentucky isn't a true title contender. This is 7 straight years Kentucky hasn't been a true national title contender.

 

[kyjeff1]

blah blah b*** s*** blah blah, maybe Cal should stop recruiting those 5* players since you think they can't reach the FF.

Why would Cal stop recruiting 5 star players? He's won more tournament and regular season games the last ten years than any other coach. Why would he stop doing what he's doing?

I don't get your point. Maybe Fran should start doing something different, when is the last time Iowa made it out of the first weekend?

You say "blah, blah, blah", but you're an idiot if you continue this farce of an argument. You don't know what you are talking about.

You are an Iowa fan. Iowa has zero success in the post season. Calipari has accomplished more in his 10 years at UK than Iowa has in it's history.... literally.

Bow out while you still have an ass left.

 

[jhmossy]

Funny thing is, even with all those 1 seeds UVA hasn’t been able to do much with it. Hopefully that changes this year.

You don’t say? I’m the first one to admit that UVA has choked in the postseason. I like our chances as long as we can stay healthy.

 

[kyjeff1]

Kentucky isn't a true title contender. This is 7 straight years Kentucky hasn't been a true national title contender.

I'm starting to believe you don't understand what the word "contender" means.

 

[dragonhawk1855]

Again, Michigan didn't win the title last year and I really don't care what your opinion is on this. I really don't.

If you think the term "true title contender" is a simplistic term, then that's on you. Sorry you don't understand what it is, but it's the truth.

Again though, you're purposely avoiding the question. Is there a BIG10 team that is a stronger title contender than any of the top 3 ACC teams? Answer the question.

MSU and Michigan are the title contenders from the BT.

Michigan has reached the FF in back to back years and they have not lost that many players off of last years team.

MSU has been hurt by injuries. but they still won thew BT Championship and BTT title, in a league that sent 8 teams to the NCAAT. IT was also projected to send 10 teams to the NCAAT.

if the media wasn't so busy sucking on the ACC Tube Steak. maybe just maybe the BT would be getting more press.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

I'm starting to believe you don't understand what the word "contender" means.

Bottom line is, Kentucky didn't win the last 6 years and they aren't winning this year.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Kentucky isn't a true title contender. This is 7 straight years Kentucky hasn't been a true national title contender.

I'm ok with comparing FF's Championship appearances and such with UM in the selective era you chose.

 

[jhmossy]

Michigan wasn't a "true contender" last year. Michigan made the national championship game.
Virginia was a "true contender" last year. Virginia lost to a 16 seed.


Silly phrase. You are a parrot.

Don’t bring my team into this pointless argument

 

[VulvHa]

You don’t say? I’m the first one to admit that UVA has choked in the postseason. I like our chances as long as we can stay healthy.

Good thing you have life to fall back. Fans of poor Purdue only have basketball. Life will be bleak after we lose today.

 

[kyjeff1]

Michigan wasn't a "true contender" last year. Michigan made the national championship game.
Virginia was a "true contender" last year. Virginia lost to a 16 seed.


Silly phrase. You are a parrot.

You do realize that there are multiple"contenders" every year, they can't all win.

Do you understand what the term "contender" is? I don't think you do.

Yup, Michigan made it to the title game last year, but they ran into a true title contender and lost. They didn't win.

But even if they did, it's a tournament where anything can happen, but it still doesn't mean Michigan was a better contender than Villanova was.

Sorry, but you just appear to not understand what the word contender means and that's sad.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Bottom line is, Kentucky didn't win the last 6 years and they aren't winning this year.

do you feel good about making that claim.
I would make one about Michigan but I don't follow them as closely....after looking,.I guess UM could win this year.

Why the absolute claims?

 

[jhmossy]

Good thing you have life to fall back. Fans of poor Purdue only have basketball. Life will be bleak after we lose today.

I’m sure you’ll be active in the B1G preseason thread

 

[dragonhawk1855]

Are we talking about last year or this year?

Bottom line is, Michigan didn't win last year and they aren't winning this year.

But instead of beating around the bush, why don't you tell me where I am wrong?

Are you saying the BIG10 has a better title contending team than UNC, UVA or Duke? I don't.

that's because you have your nose so far up the ACC's asses you can't see any sunlight.

 

[829305]

Hell, I am rooting for the Big Ten as the dumbass talking heads on ESPN, all ACC; mostly Duke just announced that Kentucky should forfeit the game with Wofford.

Cal said about the same thing. “We shouldn’t be favorites.” Lol. Gtfo w that Cal.

 

[829305]

Bottom line is, Kentucky didn't win the last 6 years and they aren't winning this year.

Yeah, but they were contenders.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Cal said about the same thing. “We shouldn’t be favorites.” Lol. Gtfo w that Cal.

My favorite thing about Calipari is everyone hangs on every word.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

do you feel good about making that claim.
I would make one about Michigan but I don't follow them as closely....after looking,.I guess UM could win this year.

Why the absolute claims?

Try to re-read and follow along.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Try to re-read and follow along.

Ok, give me a minute or two.

 

[829305]

My favorite thing about Calipari is everyone hangs on every word.

You misspelled “laughs at.”

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

You do realize that there are multiple"contenders" every year, they can't all win.

Do you understand what the term "contender" is? I don't think you do.

Yup, Michigan made it to the title game last year, but they ran into a true title contender and lost. They didn't win.

But even if they did, it's a tournament where anything can happen, but it still doesn't mean Michigan was a better contender than Villanova was.

Sorry, but you just appear to not understand what the word contender means and that's sad.

Again, Kentucky hasn't won a title the past 6 years and I really don't care what your opinion is on this. I really don't.

 

[VulvHa]

I’m sure you’ll be active in the B1G preseason thread

Probably...I’ll also be thinking about how UVA wasn’t even considered for my list of safety schools...although Purdue was on it only due to proximity.

 

[kyjeff1]

Bottom line is, Kentucky didn't win the last 6 years and they aren't winning this year.

Doesn't mean they weren't a contender.

I'm not sure why you think teams that didn't win the title weren't contenders.

Here, maybe this will help you.

Duke is a stronger title contender than Michigan State is. It doesn't mean MSU isn't a contender, it just means Duke is a stronger contender.

Last year, Michigan was a true contender, but Villanova was too, only they were a stronger contender and they won the game.

But you're STILL avoiding the question.

Is there a BIG10 team that is a stronger title contender than any of the top 3 ACC teams?

Remember, you're the one that attacked my opinion on this, but all you have done is pathetically avoided this question, because you know the answer wrecks your stupid "the word contender is for simpleton's" argument.

 

[jhmossy]

Probably...I’ll also be thinking about how UVA wasn’t even considered for my list of safety schools...although Purdue was on it only due to proximity.

You’re not going to be able to shame me for going to UVA lol.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

So is everyone rooting against Wofford?

 

[VulvHa]

Try to re-read and follow along.

Unsurprisingly, turned it around with ease

 

[kyjeff1]

Again, Kentucky hasn't won a title the past 6 years and I really don't care what your opinion is on this. I really don't.

You don't care because you have now realized you put your foot in your mouth.

Everyone, but you, fully understands what a true contenders is.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

Ok, give me a minute or two.

I'm copy and pasting the UK fan's logic about "true title contenders".

 

[kyjeff1]

that's because you have your nose so far up the ACC's asses you can't see any sunlight.

Huh? You do realize Kentucky is in the SEC right?

Sorry if I'm not all butthurt because the ACC gets more press than Iowa freaking basketball.