Avenatti on Duke
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Dear God, you all are some of the most delusional people I'll ever come across! So let me make sure I fully understand here...
UK hasn't ever gotten the types of classes Cal pulls in each year on a consistent basis. I know that this is hard to accept, but players aren't coming to UK because its something special. If that was the case, you all would have consistently gotten these types of classes before he got there year after year.
You all hire a coach who's been at 2 separate schools that were found to be dirty programs while he was in charge. You all say that even though he's in charge of the program, and UK fans love to label Pitino, Self, Miller, Roy and coach K as cheaters because of what's recently happened (even though the NCAA hasn't accused them) somehow Cal wasn't cheating. Within a few weeks of being hired, you all had the #1 recruiting class. The foreseeable future saw UK consistently year in and year out have the top 1 or 2 class rank each year. Even though neither UK, or cal had ever shown the ability to pull in these types of classes...but you all say he wasn't cheating then.
After seeing the success that Cal was having, Coach K decided to also play the OAD game. After a couple years, he showed that he was better then cal at this game. In your mind, the only explanation is that the best coach in the game who's shown that hes capable of pulling in big recruits in the past has to be cheating. Even though Durham is a better place then Lexington. (He is cheating, but so is cal)
The only way anyone could say that cal isn't cheating is by completely ignoring common sense and a ridiculous amount of coincidences. If you were being honest with yourself ,you would admit that if cal was at any other school, you would say he's cheating.
Honestly, I'm completely fine with this argument. I'm at a point where I really don't blame any of these coaches for doing it. Its just crazy when its painfully obvious that its happening , but a fanbase will act like they're the only ones who aren't doing it.
There is not a single question about Camby, let alone questions, so I think I'll take your "assessment of the situation" with the big of a grain of salt called "you might be illiterate." You've quickly become one of the most insufferable posters in recent memory. But in the event that you can read, here's something you might find interesting:
"Officials and coaches at both UMass and UConn have maintained that they were unaware that the players had violated any N.C.A.A. rules. And N.C.A.A. enforcement officials have conceded that neither school knew that Camby, King and Moore had competed in the 1996 tournament while they were ineligible. That lack of knowledge was a mitigating factor against even more severe sanctions."
https://www.nytimes.com/1997/05/09/sports/umass-and-uconn-lose-96-honors.html. There's also the Corey Maggette issue (here's where Q perks up and comments rashly), but I'm not going to try to discuss something nuanced with someone who comes off like an angry teenager on a message board, so here's where we part ways with a hearty "EAD, Afamu" from me.
Apparently.
In the hypothetical where Zion (or his family since the NCAA closed the Cam loophole) accepted money, he's forfeited at least part of his eligibility; not remotely controversial. Did that happen? I don't know, but it's been alleged.
Hmmmmm. So the FF that was vacated at Umass.
https://www.masslive.com/sports/2010/02/marcus_camby_lookback_the_ncaa.html
You know when you get that robot spam call that's actually a program that hits on keywords and tries to simulate a real human? Your posts are those calls.
Yes, the Camby situation resulted in a vacated FF appearance despite a finding that the university knew nothing. Which is exactly what I said could happen re: Zion/Duke if the allegations are true.
You're not really going to use the argument that coach k didn't know that player after player that went to Duke was getting paid? One of the smartest minds the game has ever known is too dumb to realize that the kid he just recruited who lived in the projects somehow was able to afford a $50k car?
No ot wasn't...you knew exactly what I meant. I've seen enough of your posts over the years to know that you're definitely smart enough to understand my statement about a car was a general statement. I could have just as easily have said jewelry, clothes or anything else a 19 year old kid would want. When 3 months prior he was sitting in the projects seeing a family struggling to make ends meet, its obvious that that family can't afford any frivolous stuff. But just 3 months later, that same kid is living like a kid whose family just won a 200k lottery.
Or, are you saying that these kids who have never had any money before are smart enough and conniving enough to keep up the act that they're still poor? Do you think that none of that money is being spent on anything flashy like cars, jewelry , clothes and anything else that they want?
Don't worry, it's not just Duke, it's any fan when someone starts to ask questions because common sense says something isn't quite right with the program they're a fan of.
I've said it before, I don't blame any of these coaches for doing it. I wish it wasn't apart of the game, but it is unfortunately. So, if a coach wants to compete ,he's got to play the game because that kid isn't coming for free when 4 other schools have already offered him 100k.
Nobody is untouchable when the feds get involved. Any school or individual that wasn't mentioned or involved in the FBI sting will get off completely scott free when it comes to the NCAA, imo. The likelihood that Duke played a player that should be ruled ineligible, is quite high but I will be astonished if anything happens. Revenue will always be king.
And what brought you to the conclusion that it is quite high he was ineligible.
Picture of Zion’s house. How do you know he lived in the projects. And who says projects anymore.
You're an insufferable ass. It's dicks like you that prevent rational conversation on this board.
Duke University must have fvcked this guy's mom or something. Why is he singling Duke out so hard?
Feeling a little butt hurt are we? Maybe a little jealous. Hope you recover soon.
FU. So assholes should just be able to make accusations about a school with no proof and not get called on it.
Not in my world.
And I wasn’t talking to you.
Duke will be exposed in the upcoming Nike trials. Capel was involved up to his ahole.
Fvck you tough guy. And it's your refusal to acknowledge the POSSIBILITY of wrong doing that shows what a dumb ass you are.
And I was talking to YOU , so listen up son.
I'm still laughing that this dudes 2 biggest pieces of evidence are Ayton and Zion who we already knew over the summer had $$$ attached to them. Both guys were subject of talks on wiretaps. Unless he's holding another bombshell all of this circus for them is dumb. Especially when neither made the final 4.
As soon as there is proof I am happy to listen, until then it is just anonymous message board idiots who are jealous and wish Duke was guilty of something. You know, because to get those recruits, Duke has to be cheating.
Zion will be a multi millionaire in a month or so, do you not think his family could survive another 9 months prior on what they lived on before he attended Duke. Try some logic dipshit.
Yes. The world isn't fair. You holding out hope they are gonna get hammered is like jarms was holding out hope UNC was gonna get it for 2 decades of academic fraud. Everyone cheats. Some do it more than others. Players should be allowed to be paid anyway so meh.
Probably could have. True. But then...why ask both Townsend and Adidas for cash and a house? Very puzzling.
Your dumbass wants to talk about logic? That's rich. I don't give a shit if Duke is guilty or not, but there is more than enough info out there to investigate. Bagley 's parents sudden financial windfall? ? Zion's mom a "consultant" for Nike? You talk about being able to "live on before he attended Duke" then why did his dad ask for money and a job at Kansas? I have no idea if Nike gave him money to go to Duke but there is more than enough smoke to look into it if The NCAA is willing. But I wouldn't expect an idiot to understand that.
Bagley's dad was given money for his AAU team, which is legal. Anything else asshole
Zion or his dad were not on tape it was the shoe guys.
And Avenatti is a real reliable source.
Face it, you keep saying you have no idea, but you sure think it happened.
I wouldn't expect a fng idiot to understand any of this. Keep wishing darling.
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