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Avenatti on Duke

Yes. The world isn't fair. You holding out hope they are gonna get hammered is like jarms was holding out hope UNC was gonna get it for 2 decades of academic fraud. Everyone cheats. Some do it more than others. Players should be allowed to be paid anyway so meh.
Some people think everyone should be allowed to do drugs. Sorry bub but that is not the law.
 
Bagley's dad was given money for his AAU team, which is legal. Anything else asshole
Zion or his dad were not on tape it was the shoe guys.

And Avenatti is a real reliable source.

Face it, you keep saying you have no idea, but you sure think it happened.

I wouldn't expect a fng idiot to understand any of this. Keep wishing darling.

What a pvssy. Laughing . And a stupid one at that. It was Townsend and Code. Townsend is an assistant coach at Kansas, pumpkin. And you're damned right I BELIEVE something went down with Zion. Makes zero sense to ask one school for benefits and not the one he actually went to.
 
Lol, 10 pages already. Hopefully this goes as many pages as the UNC academic thread with the same result. Any UK/KU fans want to do a ban bet?
 
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Lol, 10 pages already. Hopefully this goes as many pages as the UNC academic thread with the same result. Any UK/KU fans want to do a ban bet?
That still doesn't mean UNC didn't cheat for 18 years. That was evident but the NCAA is afraid to punish Duke and UNC. They are the Holy Grail of college basketball. No matter what comes out on Duke they are safe. When Corey Maggette was proven to be paid and the NCAA looked the other way it was an indication of how they will handle Duke in the future. My concern is for Cleveland State. They could be in deep trouble.
 
What a pvssy. Laughing . And a stupid one at that. It was Townsend and Code. Townsend is an assistant coach at Kansas, pumpkin. And you're damned right I BELIEVE something went down with Zion. Makes zero sense to ask one school for benefits and not the one he actually went to.
Good for you. And I believe you are a pedophile based on your posting history. Let’s see what happens.

No response to the Bagley comment. You still think he did something wrong?

You know Duke checked Zion out with the NCAA right?
 
That still doesn't mean UNC didn't cheat for 18 years. That was evident but the NCAA is afraid to punish Duke and UNC. They are the Holy Grail of college basketball. No matter what comes out on Duke they are safe. When Corey Maggette was proven to be paid and the NCAA looked the other way it was an indication of how they will handle Duke in the future. My concern is for Cleveland State. They could be in deep trouble.
Why are they afraid. Never understood that thought process.
 
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Zion or his family are not on tape, it is the shoe folks.

So the coach recruiting Zion and the Adidas executive lied to each other in a private conversation?

Let me guess....they knew they were wiretapped and it was all part of a big conspiracy plot to take down Duke and Nike after a Tarot reader informed them that he'd commit to Duke? Hmm..maybe you're onto something.
 
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Why are they afraid. Never understood that thought process.

I would assume people say that because it factors into the NCAA's bottom line. They make billions off of the TV deals, and people watch those Duke the most. If they hammer Duke, UNC - they will likely bring in less money over the course of the year.

Its why they used to punish schools by banning their games from playing live on TV. They don't anymore, because its just too much money to leave on the table.
 
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I'm still laughing that this dudes 2 biggest pieces of evidence are Ayton and Zion who we already knew over the summer had $$$ attached to them. Both guys were subject of talks on wiretaps. Unless he's holding another bombshell all of this circus for them is dumb. Especially when neither made the final 4.

And saying Duke and Zion is keeping him in the headlines. He knows people will only give him a benefit of doubt if it includes the BEST player and Duke, a school 95% of the country hates. He knows what he’s doing before he heads to jail. It’s smart. We’ll see what comes of it.
 
How is Duke or UNC anymore of a cash cow than other schools?

NCAA sells out everything.
The media paints DUKE and UNC as the holy grail of basketball. The NCAA does not want to tarnish that image and affect tv viewing by millions of fans.
 
Good for you. And I believe you are a pedophile based on your posting history. Let’s see what happens.

No response to the Bagley comment. You still think he did something wrong?

You know Duke checked Zion out with the NCAA right?

You know the NCAA cleared Derrick Rose..twice, don't you? Your problem is you can't add 2+2 and get 4.
 
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How is Duke or UNC anymore of a cash cow than other schools?

NCAA sells out everything.

That’s what I’m wondering. But if that’s the case, the NCAA owes Duke 10 more titles! We need to get our monies worth!
 
Seems as if everybody but the Dukies think there's something worth looking into; shocking. lol What if it were UK or UNC? I'm guessing the song would be much different.
 
I would assume people say that because it factors into the NCAA's bottom line. They make billions off of the TV deals, and people watch those Duke the most. If they hammer Duke, UNC - they will likely bring in less money over the course of the year.

Its why they used to punish schools by banning their games from playing live on TV. They don't anymore, because its just too much money to leave on the table.
If someone can provide a factual analysis of the data I am happy to read.

Until then IMO it just folks who want to believe Duke cheats.
 
If someone can provide a factual analysis of the data I am happy to read.

Until then IMO it just folks who want to believe Duke cheats.

Factual analysis of what? You asked why people think the NCAA won't punish Duke / UNC like they would other schools. Most people believe it is because they are worth too much money, as I explained.
 
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Seems as if everybody but the Dukies think there's something worth looking into; shocking. lol What if it were UK or UNC? I'm guessing the song would be much different.
What if it IS UK or unc.

I don't know about other Dukies, but I am sure there is something to look into. Couldn't imagine Nike not doing the things they are accused of doing.

I just don't know what creepy porn lawyer has. This is his style. Says he has evidence, releases things already public knowledge to sound credible, throws out teasers and then shit just disappears into the sunset.
 
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If someone can provide a factual analysis of the data I am happy to read.

Until then IMO it just folks who want to believe Duke cheats.

Still waiting for your brilliant explanation for the conversation between Townsend and the Adidas exec.

Tick tock, tick tock...
 
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What if it IS UK or unc.

I don't know about other Dukies, but I am sure there is something to look into. Couldn't imagine Nike not doing the things they are accused of doing.

I just don't know what creepy porn lawyer has. This is his style. Says he has evidence, releases things already public knowledge to sound credible, throws out teasers and then shit just disappears into the sunset.

You're the exception rather than the rule then.
 
Factual analysis of what? You asked why people think the NCAA won't punish Duke / UNC like they would other schools. Most people believe it is because they are worth too much money, as I explained.
Yep. Your opinion. Nothing of actual substance.
 
Factual analysis of what? You asked why people think the NCAA won't punish Duke / UNC like they would other schools. Most people believe it is because they are worth too much money, as I explained.

Not only that, history tells us Duke wont be punished.
 
Not only that, history tells us Duke wont be punished.
You mean based on never being investigated and found guilty of a violation.

What actual violations have they been guilty of.

And please, don’t want an opinion.
 
You mean based on never being investigated and found guilty of a violation.

What actual violations have they been guilty of.

And please, don’t want an opinion.

Well hell no they haven't been found guilty because in the case of Maggette and Thomas the NCAA adopted the position of "nothing to see here". Meanwhile, Derrick Rose was retroactively ruled ineligible because he wouldn't talk with the NCAA over an entrance exam.
 
Well hell no they haven't been found guilty because in the case of Maggette and Thomas the NCAA adopted the position of "nothing to see here". Meanwhile, Derrick Rose was retroactively ruled ineligible because he wouldn't talk with the NCAA over an entrance exam.
But the NCAA did review the case right?

Lance Thomas bought jewelry at a store in NY. He is from NJ. What is the issue.
 
They made a half - assed attempt I'd say. But you know that. You're the type of idiot that wanted UNC crucified when the NCAA found no violations there, as evidenced by your mature user name.

This is from Forbes: "There is a possibility that the NCAA will vacate Duke University’s 2010 National Championship and all of the wins that occurred after Lance accepted the alleged benefits, because Lance would be deemed an ineligible participant who participated in all of Duke’s games that season. This punishment is comparable to what happened to University of Memphis with Derrick Rose. While Memphis did not win the championship that season, all of their wins were vacated because Derrick Rose was determined to be ineligible for the season, after all of those games were won.
 
Don't care. Has nothing to do with Duke.

Zion's family allegedly having a list of demands has nothing to do with Duke?

KU fans could play this game too. We could say that, according to sworn testimony by an Adidas rep, Bill Self and staff had no knowledge of payments. We could say there is no proof. We could say the restitution payments support their innocence.

But...we don't act like 5 year olds and we can add 2 + 2.
 
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They made a half - assed attempt I'd say. But you know that. You're the type of idiot that wanted UNC crucified when the NCAA found no violations there, as evidenced by your mature user name.

This is from Forbes: "There is a possibility that the NCAA will vacate Duke University’s 2010 National Championship and all of the wins that occurred after Lance accepted the alleged benefits, because Lance would be deemed an ineligible participant who participated in all of Duke’s games that season. This punishment is comparable to what happened to University of Memphis with Derrick Rose. While Memphis did not win the championship that season, all of their wins were vacated because Derrick Rose was determined to be ineligible for the season, after all of those games were won.
Why didn’t you not highlight alleged.

NCAA determined someone took the SAT for Rose. A violation.

Lance Thomas. No violation.

Sorry it doesn’t fit your narrative, but those are the facts.
 
Zion's family allegedly having a list of demands has nothing to do with Duke?

KU fans could play this game too. We could say that, according to sworn testimony by an Adidas rep, Bill Self and staff had no knowledge of payments. We could say there is no proof. We could say the restitution payments support their innocence.

But...we don't act like 5 year olds and we can add 2 + 2.
Who was on the tape?
 
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Yep. Your opinion. Nothing of actual substance.

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You mean based on never being investigated and found guilty of a violation.

What actual violations have they been guilty of.

And please, don’t want an opinion.

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But the NCAA did review the case right?

Lance Thomas bought jewelry at a store in NY. He is from NJ. What is the issue.

Why didn’t you not highlight alleged.

NCAA determined someone took the SAT for Rose. A violation.

Lance Thomas. No violation.

Sorry it doesn’t fit your narrative, but those are the facts.

Do you have any idea why they "determined someone took the SAT for Rose"? He refused to cooperate, just like Thomas. Why didn't they "determine" (assume) Thomas got $30K illegitimately like they did with Rose's test score? Why didn't they "determine" Maggette took money from Piggie when the rest of those dudes admitted THEY received it and got penalized? But you don't get it because UNC is guilty and Duke isn't.
 
Do you have any idea why they "determined someone took the SAT for Rose"? He refused to cooperate, just like Thomas. Why didn't they "determine" (assume) Thomas got $30K illegitimately like they did with Rose's test score? Why didn't they "determine" Maggette took money from Piggie when the rest of those dudes admitted THEY received it and got penalized? But you don't get it because UNC is guilty and Duke isn't.
Maybe the improvement in the score? Are you really that stupid.
 
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