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Another alleged rape by a basketball player in Lawrence

I like to let him pretend he can forcibly dominate me.

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bet, My ass is already on fire, What could go wrong.
 
Shannon playing again, Von Miller playing after being accused of beating the shit out of a pregnant chick…shit, KU should have just played Morris.
 
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Wait, wait, wait, wait...A KU player raped a WOMAN???!?!!?!?!
NFW, that shyt is totally made up.They don't call it *** allen fieldhouse for nothing...
 
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Shannon is playing again??? Did he get cleared of the charges or are they just playing him until it plays out in court?
A federal judge ordered the university of Illinois to reinstate him. There is language in her order (according to lawyers) that opens the school up to massive lawsuits if they don’t play him and he ends up being innocent. The schools hands are tied.


Everything that I understand about the case and what I’ve been told about the case is that it will be thrown out. Absolutely no evidence against Shannon right now outside of the accuser saying he did it.


There could always be new evidence. But the only new evidence that there could be is a witness all of the sudden coming forward or a witness changing their story. The prosecution performed DNA test. They have the results. But the prosecution isn’t using the DNA test as part of their evidence. The defense knows the results of the test and they have asked for the results of the test. The prosecution has until the 29th or 30th (I can’t remember which) to hand over those results. I suspect they will wait until the last day to do so. The results of the test found 2 people’s dna. The accuser and someone not named TSJ.
 
A federal judge ordered the university of Illinois to reinstate him. There is language in her order (according to lawyers) that opens the school up to massive lawsuits if they don’t play him and he ends up being innocent. The schools hands are tied.


Everything that I understand about the case and what I’ve been told about the case is that it will be thrown out. Absolutely no evidence against Shannon right now outside of the accuser saying he did it.


There could always be new evidence. But the only new evidence that there could be is a witness all of the sudden coming forward or a witness changing their story. The prosecution performed DNA test. They have the results. But the prosecution isn’t using the DNA test as part of their evidence. The defense knows the results of the test and they have asked for the results of the test. The prosecution has until the 29th or 30th (I can’t remember which) to hand over those results. I suspect they will wait until the last day to do so. The results of the test found 2 people’s dna. The accuser and someone not named TSJ.

yea as much as I'd love for all Illinois players to go to jail, this situation screams "bitch made the whole thing up" based on everything I've heard and read.



Plus following 10/7 I now strictly follow the school of thought that suggests we should NOT believe any rape victims unless we see absolute irrefutable proof from many sources.
 
Comeback? I was just stating a fact.

Let me help you out….this thread isn’t about a KU player. 🤣
Well, duh, I already said that. No way in Hell any KU player or fan could go after anything not swinging a dick. Everybody knows that.
 
A federal judge ordered the university of Illinois to reinstate him. There is language in her order (according to lawyers) that opens the school up to massive lawsuits if they don’t play him and he ends up being innocent. The schools hands are tied.


Everything that I understand about the case and what I’ve been told about the case is that it will be thrown out. Absolutely no evidence against Shannon right now outside of the accuser saying he did it.


There could always be new evidence. But the only new evidence that there could be is a witness all of the sudden coming forward or a witness changing their story. The prosecution performed DNA test. They have the results. But the prosecution isn’t using the DNA test as part of their evidence. The defense knows the results of the test and they have asked for the results of the test. The prosecution has until the 29th or 30th (I can’t remember which) to hand over those results. I suspect they will wait until the last day to do so. The results of the test found 2 people’s dna. The accuser and someone not named TSJ.

She apparently google searched both Kansas and Illinois football/basketball team rosters. Also NIL information for players. Picked him out. Then couldn't ID him in a lineup.

Seems sketchy.
 
no, he was acquitted because of a lack of evidence that he was guilty. No one is required to provide evidence of innocence at their trial.
That is correct, but in context of my response what I posted is relvant.

Hope that helps
 
there's nothing relevant about the "either way" part about your response.
Well, the post I responded to was "This case was a joke to anyone who bothered to look into the publicly available details AT ALL...yadda yadda" and we have seen hundreds of these posts particularly from over invested Ill fans. The implication is that he was obviously not guilty based on the evidence of his innocence. Therefore in context it was.

He was acquitted based on lack of direct evidence to find him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt..not becuasse of some set of "facts that prove him innocent".

I am quite aware of the requirements at trial, and we can have that very different discussion if you choose.

Hope this helps.
 
Well, the post I responded to was "This case was a joke to anyone who bothered to look into the publicly available details AT ALL...yadda yadda" and we have seen hundreds of these posts particularly from over invested Ill fans. The implication is that he was obviously not guilty based on the evidence of his innocence. Therefore in context it was.

He was acquitted based on lack of direct evidence to find him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt..not becuasse of some set of "facts that prove him innocent".

I am quite aware of the requirements at trial, and we can have that very different discussion if you choose.

Hope this helps.


He didn't need "facts that prove him innocent". Nor does anyone need that. All he needed was evidence that failed to prove he committed rape by a reasonable doubt.

So, he was not acquitted because there was a "lack of direct evidence either way". He was acquitted because there was a lack of direct evidence that proved he committed rape beyond a reasonable doubt. You have no idea what, if any, evidence was presented by defense that proved he didn't commit rape. All you or anyone knows is that the state failed to prove he committed the crime of rape in a court of law.

For all you know his defense didn't even open their mouths the entire trial and just let the prosecutor's lack of evidence stand for itself.


Don't care if this helps you.
 
He didn't need "facts that prove him innocent". Nor does anyone need that. All he needed was evidence that failed to prove he committed rape by a reasonable doubt.

So, he was not acquitted because there was a "lack of direct evidence either way". He was acquitted because there was a lack of direct evidence that proved he committed rape beyond a reasonable doubt. You have no idea what, if any, evidence was presented by defense that proved he didn't commit rape. All you or anyone knows is that the state failed to prove he committed the crime of rape in a court of law.

For all you know his defense didn't even open their mouths the entire trial and just let the prosecutor's lack of evidence stand for itself.


Don't care if this helps you.

"He didn't need "facts that prove him innocent". Nor does anyone need that. All he needed was evidence that failed to prove he committed rape by a reasonable doubt."

Correct, i agreed with you the first time, no need to repeat.

"So, he was not acquitted because there was a "lack of direct evidence either way". He was acquitted because there was a lack of direct evidence that proved he committed rape beyond a reasonable doubt".

Correct, I stated the same.

"For all you know his defense didn't even open their mouths the entire trial and just let the prosecutor's lack of evidence stand for itself"

No they presented their case.

Hope this helps.
 
He was acquitted based on lack of direct evidence either way.
To have this attitude after no evidence of his guilt ever surfacing plus a Not Guilty verdict requires a DESIRE to believe he’s not clearly innocent. A random girl accused him of doing something with nothing but her word to support it (which is negated by his word that he didn’t do that thing) … his innocence is no more ambiguous than yours if I accused you of a random crime.
 
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