Who will be the National POY?

RR30 · Jan 17, 2022

dukedevilz said:
Current top 3.
1. Oscar Tshiebwe, Kentucky, 38.6%
2. Kofi Cockburn, Illinois, 15.8%
3. Johnny Davis, Wisconsin, 12.3%

Those are the same 3 I have in my top 3. Good to see we don't have anything out of the ordinary.

Davis really came out of nowhere for me. I mean, I figured he'd be Wisconsin's most talented player, perhaps 2nd or 3rd Team All-Conference. But, his production at the U19 World Championships was pedestrian. He was arguably the least productive player on Team USA. But, he's be showing up big time. And Wisconsin keeps getting dubs.

Oscar's numbers are really jaw-dropping. Feel like he's going to be tough to beat.

Also, yes, Bacot probably could have been in consideration, as well. He has better numbers than Banchero, and is likely the frontrunner for ACC POY, provided UNC keeps winning games.

I remember your preseason player list I mentioned Oscar was too low, but I'm not sure anyone expected him to be this good. From game one when he son'd Mark Williams he's just been absurdly good. I think Oscar's numbers will continue to go down though now Cal is seemingly using a "modern" offense instead of whatever the fvck last year was.

dukedevilz · Jan 17, 2022

RR30 said:
I remember your preseason player list I mentioned Oscar was too low, but I'm not sure anyone expected him to be this good. From game one when he son'd Mark Williams he's just been absurdly good. I think Oscar's numbers will continue to go down though now Cal is seemingly using a "modern" offense instead of whatever the fvck last year was.

He wasn't that low, to be honest. I had him ranked 33rd, which is on the cusp of being an All-American. The only pundit that had him ranked higher than me was Athlon, which had him one spot higher at #32. On the composite rankings, he dropped to #47. So yes, Oscar surprised most people.

3MW= Three Man Weave
MTM= Making The Madness
NG= The News-Gazette
Athlon= Athlon
CBS= CBS Sports
DD= dukedevilz

100 points for being the #1 ranked player, 99 points for being #2... 68 points for being #33.

dukedevilz said:
Player School 3MW MTM NG ATH CBS DD Total AVG
1
Drew Timme Gonzaga 100 100 99 100 100 100 599
99.8
2
Kofi Cockburn Illinois 99 96 98 97 99 99 588
98.0
3
Paolo Banchero Duke 97 98 97 99 98 97 586
97.7
4
Johnny Juzang UCLA 91 99 100 98 97 95 580
96.7
5
Chet Holmgren Gonzaga 98 97 95 93 96 98 577
96.2
6
EJ Liddell Ohio State 96 91 96 92 90 93 558
93.0
7
Trayce Jackson-Davis Indiana 94 94 84 96 93 94 555
92.5
8
Hunter Dickinson Michigan 95 95 92 84 91 96 553
92.2
9
Max Abmas Oral Roberts 87 93 91 94 94 90 549
91.5
10
Collin Gillespie Villanova 93 90 88 86 92 92 541
90.2
11
Trevion Williams Purdue 92 85 93 89 95 85 539
89.8
12
Jaden Ivey Purdue 86 92 85 91 78 91 523
87.2
12
Marcus Carr Texas 90 86 94 83 88 82 523
87.2
14
Julian Champagnie St.John's 81 89 87 87 73 89 506
84.3
15
Emoni Bates Memphis 88 82 77 81 82 81 491
81.8
16
Kendric Davis SMU 89 65 89 81 76 84 484
80.7
17
Buddy Boeheim Syracuse 52 79 82 95 86 78 472
78.7
18
Jahvon Quinerly Alabama 79 68 80 74 87 83 471
78.5
19
Scotty Pippen Vanderbilt 77 60 81 90 66 88 462
77.0
20
Patrick Baldwin Milwaukee 84 77 68 82 74 58 443
73.8
21
Remy Martin Kansas 83 56 90 37 89 87 442
73.7
22
Kennedy Chandler Tennessee 76 75 64 58 81 86 440
73.3
23
Terrence Shannon Texas Tech 65 72 76 77 70 77 437
72.8
24
Jaime Jaquez UCLA 38 70 63 88 84 80 423
70.5
25
Armando Bacot North Carolina 80 48 72 72 83 63 418
69.7
26
Tyson Etienne Wichita State 57 78 78 67 67 65 412
68.7
27
Ochai Agbaji Kansas 60 87 34 79 85 54 399
66.5
28
Matthew Mayer Baylor 69 69 57 61 72 69 397
66.2
29
Andrew Nembhard Gonzaga 78 40 66 75 80 57 396
66.0
30
Kellan Grady Kentucky 70 73 71 68 55 50 387
64.5
31
Marcus Sasser Houston 71 88 52 55 69 46 381
63.5
32
Keve Aluma Virginia Tech 72 71 33 62 68 71 377
62.8
33
David McCormack Kansas 53 82 NR 80 56 74 345
57.5
34
Jaden Shackelford Alabama 73 74 79 48 41 22 337
56.2
35
Alex Barcello BYU 82 76 83 NR 16 75 332
55.3
36
TyTy Washignton Kentucky 59 62 61 42 31 76 331
55.2
37
Jabari Smith Auburn 42 83 22 69 57 56 329
54.8
38
Andre Curbelo Illinois 85 1 86 NR 77 79 328
54.7
39
Caleb Houstan Michigan 64 67 67 47 20 60 325
54.2
40
Grant Sherfield Nevada 54 84 75 12 25 66 316
52.7
41
Justin Moore Villanova 27 64 51 54 64 55 315
52.5
42
Jalen Duren Memphis 61 52 70 NR 65 62 310
51.7
43
Adam Flagler Baylor 75 NR 73 71 63 24 306
51.0
44
Bennedict Mathurin Arizona 67 NR 46 52 53 72 290
48.3
45
Isaiah Mobley USC 41 43 NR 85 75 34 278
46.3
46
Will Richardson Oregon 63 47 27 16 54 70 277
46.2
47
Oscar Tshiebwe Kentucky 44 31 69 14 43 68 269
44.8

RR30 · Jan 17, 2022

dukedevilz said:
He wasn't that low, to be honest. I had him ranked 33rd, which is on the cusp of being an All-American. The only pundit that had him ranked higher than me was Athlon, which had him one spot higher at #32. On the composite rankings, he dropped to #47. So yes, Oscar surprised most people.

3MW= Three Man Weave
MTM= Making The Madness
NG= The News-Gazette
Athlon= Athlon
CBS= CBS Sports
DD= dukedevilz

100 points for being the #1 ranked player, 99 points for being #2... 68 points for being #33.

So you were still wrong, but less wrong than everyone else

boilerzz · Jan 17, 2022

1016CC0503 · Jan 17, 2022

boilerzz said:
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Purdue’s first win over Kofi.

Only way to beat him is to hope he sits!

3-1

Kevin Bryan · Jan 17, 2022

Shots fired!!! (From a guy that was just offered by Illinois last month). 😆

1016CC0503 · Jan 17, 2022

Kevin Bryan said:
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Shots fired!!! (From a guy that was just offered by Illinois last month). 😆

It’s kinda hard to model your game after 7’0 285.

Kid is smart for being realistic

Kevin Bryan · Jan 17, 2022

1016CC0503 said:
It’s kinda hard to model your game after 7’0 285.

Kid is smart for being realistic

He's a unicorn. Look him up. 😆

lurkeraspect84 · Jan 17, 2022

Kevin Bryan said:
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Shots fired!!! (From a guy that was just offered by Illinois last month). 😆

1016CC0503 · Jan 17, 2022

Kevin Bryan said:
He's a unicorn. Look him up. 😆

Anthony Davis-unicorn or Porzingis-unicorn?

cuz Kentucky will need a Davis-level

Kevin Bryan · Jan 17, 2022

1016CC0503 said:
Anthony Davis-unicorn or Porzingis-unicorn?

cuz Kentucky will need a Davis-level

Hard to explain. He is just unreal.

Player	School	3MW	MTM	NG	ATH	CBS	DD	Total	AVG
1	Drew Timme	Gonzaga	100	100	99	100	100	100	599	99.8
2	Kofi Cockburn	Illinois	99	96	98	97	99	99	588	98.0
3	Paolo Banchero	Duke	97	98	97	99	98	97	586	97.7
4	Johnny Juzang	UCLA	91	99	100	98	97	95	580	96.7
5	Chet Holmgren	Gonzaga	98	97	95	93	96	98	577	96.2
6	EJ Liddell	Ohio State	96	91	96	92	90	93	558	93.0
7	Trayce Jackson-Davis	Indiana	94	94	84	96	93	94	555	92.5
8	Hunter Dickinson	Michigan	95	95	92	84	91	96	553	92.2
9	Max Abmas	Oral Roberts	87	93	91	94	94	90	549	91.5
10	Collin Gillespie	Villanova	93	90	88	86	92	92	541	90.2
11	Trevion Williams	Purdue	92	85	93	89	95	85	539	89.8
12	Jaden Ivey	Purdue	86	92	85	91	78	91	523	87.2
12	Marcus Carr	Texas	90	86	94	83	88	82	523	87.2
14	Julian Champagnie	St.John's	81	89	87	87	73	89	506	84.3
15	Emoni Bates	Memphis	88	82	77	81	82	81	491	81.8
16	Kendric Davis	SMU	89	65	89	81	76	84	484	80.7
17	Buddy Boeheim	Syracuse	52	79	82	95	86	78	472	78.7
18	Jahvon Quinerly	Alabama	79	68	80	74	87	83	471	78.5
19	Scotty Pippen	Vanderbilt	77	60	81	90	66	88	462	77.0
20	Patrick Baldwin	Milwaukee	84	77	68	82	74	58	443	73.8
21	Remy Martin	Kansas	83	56	90	37	89	87	442	73.7
22	Kennedy Chandler	Tennessee	76	75	64	58	81	86	440	73.3
23	Terrence Shannon	Texas Tech	65	72	76	77	70	77	437	72.8
24	Jaime Jaquez	UCLA	38	70	63	88	84	80	423	70.5
25	Armando Bacot	North Carolina	80	48	72	72	83	63	418	69.7
26	Tyson Etienne	Wichita State	57	78	78	67	67	65	412	68.7
27	Ochai Agbaji	Kansas	60	87	34	79	85	54	399	66.5
28	Matthew Mayer	Baylor	69	69	57	61	72	69	397	66.2
29	Andrew Nembhard	Gonzaga	78	40	66	75	80	57	396	66.0
30	Kellan Grady	Kentucky	70	73	71	68	55	50	387	64.5
31	Marcus Sasser	Houston	71	88	52	55	69	46	381	63.5
32	Keve Aluma	Virginia Tech	72	71	33	62	68	71	377	62.8
33	David McCormack	Kansas	53	82	NR	80	56	74	345	57.5
34	Jaden Shackelford	Alabama	73	74	79	48	41	22	337	56.2
35	Alex Barcello	BYU	82	76	83	NR	16	75	332	55.3
36	TyTy Washignton	Kentucky	59	62	61	42	31	76	331	55.2
37	Jabari Smith	Auburn	42	83	22	69	57	56	329	54.8
38	Andre Curbelo	Illinois	85	1	86	NR	77	79	328	54.7
39	Caleb Houstan	Michigan	64	67	67	47	20	60	325	54.2
40	Grant Sherfield	Nevada	54	84	75	12	25	66	316	52.7
41	Justin Moore	Villanova	27	64	51	54	64	55	315	52.5
42	Jalen Duren	Memphis	61	52	70	NR	65	62	310	51.7
43	Adam Flagler	Baylor	75	NR	73	71	63	24	306	51.0
44	Bennedict Mathurin	Arizona	67	NR	46	52	53	72	290	48.3
45	Isaiah Mobley	USC	41	43	NR	85	75	34	278	46.3
46	Will Richardson	Oregon	63	47	27	16	54	70	277	46.2
47	Oscar Tshiebwe	Kentucky	44	31	69	14	43	68	269	44.8

Who will be the National POY?

Who will be the 2021-22 National Player of the Year?

Paolo Banchero, Duke

Ochai Agbaji, Kansas

EJ Liddell, Ohio State

Kofi Cockburn, Illinois

Keegan Murray, Iowa

Johnny Davis, Wisconsin

Bennedict Mathurin, Arizona

Jabari Smith, Auburn

Oscar Tshiebwe, Kentucky

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