What's so great about UNCs resume?
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Yeah, but just like every other SEC program, you put everything you have into beating UK, then get trucked in your next game.
I don't doubt this at all. But that doesn't mean that other top programs would struggle in the SEC as you suggested. They're used to it as well.
So Calipari is supposed to tell these players "no thanks, I'm going to pass and sign these 3* guys"?
What you don't realize is your coach is recruiting those same players, he's just not getting them.
Also, all 5* kids aren't one and done caliber. Some put in the extra hard work and go sooner than expected, but there are many that need more development before they get recognized by the NBA.
Well, let's look at it this way, UK has great success in the NCAAT and in pre conference play, just like all the other blue bloods. But UK has had many years where it struggled on the road in league play. Why?
Just this year, UK beat UNC comfortably in Chicago, blew Louisville's doors off in Louisville, but turned around and lost at Alabama, lost by 19 at UT and lost at home to LSU.
League play is tough and Duke, UNC, KU and any other programs you want to mention, would certainly have their struggles in this league.
Do you think KU would win the SEC 10+ straight years? Hell no they wouldn't. But when has the SEC had a higher rating than the BIG12? Why can they win the BIG12 so often, but not have as much pre conference or tournament success as UK?
I'm just saying, the SEC is better during conference play than most want to believe.
Typical SEC program behavior. But I think this UT team has the right attitude. But that performance against Auburn has me questioning that. Hopefully it was just a blip
You sign classes to win. If 1 and dones are not working you should adjust the mix. Don't you think?
But UK didn’t play any ACC teams during “conference play”. As in that time of year. There is a huge difference in playing OOC teams in November and early December vs Jan and feb when rotations tighten and freshman are no longer freshman.
The SEC isn’t the pac 12, but it certainly isn’t as strong of a conference as the ACC.
Most years, including this year, I don’t think Duke, UNC or UVA would have nearly as tough of a time in the SEC vs ACC.. aside from UK and the occasional team that pops up along with them.
My drive by opinion only, of course.
Looks to me like one and done is working for UK. Since 2010, UK has the most tournament wins.
But young teams lose games in November and December, that's my point.
We'll revisit this in the off season. I think we need to take a deep dive into the Aryan Cats of the 40's and 50's who won half of those 8 titles.
Until then, let the Madness begin, my friend!
He is not ready for the NBA. He struggles under pressure defense. He was shut down by Bone and Company. The NBA is much tougher than Bone and Company. In a few years he will be great.
You addressed my comments about pre conference success, but what about my point about NCAAT success? UK has won more NCAAT games since 2010 than anyone else and there was a year in that timeframe (2013) when UK didn't even make the tournament.
So UK holds its own in November, December and March.
So UK has beaten all the other blue bloods before and after conference play (haven't played Duke in the NCAAT in many years though), but you're telling me that all the other blue bloods would perform better in SEC play than UK???? Okay. Makes sense, not really, but like you said, it's your fly by opinion.
Then you have to consider those losses as acceptable losses, but acknowledge them as losses. You can't have it both ways.
Nope, he gone.
Trust me, he's white, I get it, but that dude is gone. We have seen this too many times to believe a kid with his talent and drive is going to come back when he's projected in the first round of the draft. Not happening.
Can't wait to hear about Indo-Iranian people.We'll revisit this in the off season. I think we need to take a deep dive into the Aryan Cats of the 40's and 50's who won half of those 8 titles.
Until then, let the Madness begin, my friend!
Do you dissect other fan bases post or just UK's?
It's very telling, along with flattering.
Some think we're being arrogant or pompous when we talk about how we're the center of the universe, but then we have posters from other teams who make us the center of their universe.
I think it is you that is clueless. An 8th grader can have potential, but he ain't getting signed. Potential is directly related to development. Herro was shut down and actually looked bad at UT twice. I think he has the potential to be really good, but he needs more experience and coaching.
Saying the loss was in November means it was an early season game with a freshmen oriented team with huge upside. There's a big difference between playing UK in November and playing them in March. That's all I'm saying.
You talking about losses that happened in November and December is what brings me to say "that was November Della, this is March, you don't see UK losing games by 20, or 34 in March, UK is a different team now".
I don't know why this is so hard for you to comprehend. UK and Duke are different than any other program you can come up with, using one and done players means they have young teams that are still learning in November and December, but they win in March. However, you keep talking about the losses that UK suffered in November and December like they happened in March.
UT just lost by 20 to a 5 seed in March right before the tournament. That is far more alarming than UK losing by 34 to Duke in the first game of the season, losing an essential road game to Seton Hall by a bucket in December or losing a road game at Alabama in early January.
Never did I say I wanted it both ways, but I am saying you're being dumb when you constantly bring up losses that UK had in November and December, especially when you just got smoked by a 5 seed on a neutral court in March.
I generally dissect and respond to post that I was quoted in. So yeah, it is flattering to have such a following of UK fans.
Glad you enjoy the attention.I generally dissect and respond to post that I was quoted in. So yeah, it is flattering to have such a following of UK fans.
You don't get an asterisk for the loss. Y'all lost your last game by choking on a big lead with the game almost over. (not a good look going into the NCAA) This is March and not November.
You need to consider what you're doing when you swing a double edged sword.
You're making it worse Della.
Of course an 8th grader won't get signed by an NBA franchise....duhhhh, gee, I wonder why.
But you don't get it, all the NBA needs to see is potential Della. That's it. Skal labassier couldn't guard a damn trash can, he was scared of his own shadow, but that dude went in the first round of the draft after one season.
The NBA doesn’t give two shits that you got burned in a couple of games in college Della, they just don't.
Step out of this conversation before you get burned, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Herro has more than proven himself this year, he has NBA potential and he is projected to go first round.
It's not the first contract that is important Della, it is your second NBA deal that is important and getting into the league at 19 years old is one hell of a head start.
Just stick to what you know, which is 3* 4 year players.
Here we go again.
No, KU would not have won the SEC 14 straight times, but Kentucky definitely wouldn’t have won 14 straight in the Big 12.
Tourney upsets are exactly that. Do you think Northern Iowa and VCU were actually better than KU? Was K-State minus Wade better than UK? Was Wisconsin better? Did Duke losing to Lehigh mean that the ACC sucked that year?
Do you have numbers to back up that Kentucky has more OOC success? KU generally plays very tough OOC schedules but I’m betting they compare well even during Cal’s run. In the modern era overall, KU’s won about 100 more games with more final fours.
The Kentucky teams that struggled in the SEC were especially young teams that took time to blossom. I’m struggling to remember years in which they killed it during non-con, only to get their asses kicked by the SEC. But about every other year they get off to a somewhat rocky start in non-con.
