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Vegas still favors Duke over Kentucky

Next March it will have been 7 years since Kentucky's last title. That's a really long time. It'll also have been 4 years since Kentucky's last Final Four. Not too bad but Kansas will have a more recent one and a much better recent record in the NCAA. Recent history to me is the past 3 seasons.

Why would Kentucky's future be brighter? Worse NCAA record, less wins, worse seeds, they lose to KU everytime they play, Duke steals all of their recruits, worse pretty much everything in recent years and KU brings in their best class in years. None of that says Kentucky has a brighter future to me.
Another homer of a post. Again, I understand three wins in a row is huge for Kansas against us, but head to head in such a small time frame means nothing. 7 years is shorter than 11, good grief. Going by history, you all won’t win another one for 30 years or so, either. Of course recent history to you is only three seasons, it fits your awful argument.
 
And also means nothing. The most irrelevant stat ever.
Not at all. Again, probably doesn’t mean much to a Duke fan who’s had one good coach in its entire history. Granted he is the GOAT. My stat shows consistency as a program, even through head coaching changes. If you can’t see that then sorry.
 
Another homer of a post. Again, I understand three wins in a row is huge for Kansas against us, but head to head in such a small time frame means nothing. 7 years is shorter than 11, good grief. Going by history, you all won’t win another one for 30 years or so, either. Of course recent history to you is only three seasons, it fits your awful argument.
Don't fall back on the 1970's series to argue about what's happening today. I'm talking about what's happening now and nothing says Kentucky is doing basketball better than Kansas right now. Also, you're going full homer saying that they have a better future. I just listed out reasons why they don't and you're talking about the 1970's.

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FYI, preseason #1 hasn't won it all since 2009 UNC.

I'm not a fan of being preseason #1. I think the presence of social media makes it way too difficult for the favorite now because the pressure that comes with it is more difficult to ignore.
 
Don't fall back on the 1970's series to argue about what's happening today. I'm talking about what's happening now and nothing says Kentucky is doing basketball better than Kansas right now. Also, you're going full homer saying that they have a better future. I just listed out reasons why they don't and you're talking about the 1970's.

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I see you don’t want to defend your recent history is only three years statement. It was awful. Kentucky will have a better season this season and going forward than Kansas. You guys never win championships, which is the end all goal. I’m not sure why I even feel the need to defend UK against Kansas. Your program is best known for flaming out in the tournament against inferior teams, Kentucky isn’t worried about you guys.
 
I see you don’t want to defend your recent history is only three years statement. It was awful. Kentucky will have a better season this season and going forward than Kansas. You guys never win championships, which is the end all goal. I’m not sure why I even feel the need to defend UK against Kansas. Your program is best known for flaming out in the tournament against inferior teams, Kentucky isn’t worried about you guys.
Oh yeah?

Well, Bill Self fvcked John Calipari’s wife!
 
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If we are ranking the best programs of the last 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 or 60 years Kentucky isn't #1 in any of them. It's crazy what that run from 1948-1958 did for them. Kinda like UCLA's run.

It's crazy what a decade+ of Tubby's mediocrity and BCG's drinking will do for lists like these. And lol comparing UCLA's run to UK's as a % of success. UCLA has 1 title and 6 FFs after Wooden. Total. And half of that success was a three-year run by Howland. UK has had 4 coaches besides Rupp win a national title, and 11 more FFs.
 
More talented in terms of NBA Talent? Sure, I guess. But Kansas had a better team all 3 years and went further in the tournament every year (matched in 2017).

There is no more misused/misunderstood word in college basketball than "talent." Most people mean it as potential, then (bizarrely) equate that to current (i.e 18/19 year old) production. It's madness. Case in point: Mr. Baracus.
 
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He ain't a 6'10 post player. That is what they need.

Disagree. If Bolden comes out and plays well, they don’t need that with the athleticism of Williamson included. Cole is already 18 and would be eligible for next year. Idk if anyone else feels this way, but why WOULDNT he reclassify? He’s clearly ready for college let alone the NBA
 
And here’s where it’s getting sad. If I rooted for Kansas I would likely hide behind Duke too

Well, unless you're old, KU's been a better program than UK in your lifetime.

But hey, again...those 40s and 50s titles are sweet ammo, aren't they?
 
More talented in terms of NBA Talent? Sure, I guess. But Kansas had a better team all 3 years and went further in the tournament every year (matched in 2017).

You mean they were better coached. Agreed. As they will be this season.
 
Except Kentucky has had 5 coaches win a title and no other school has 3. The definition of consistency and a program making a coach, not the other way around. Kentucky living in some heads today. Must be doing something right.

That's true but they're no Duke or North Carolina of the modern era.

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Well, unless you're old, KU's been a better program than UK in your lifetime.

But hey, again...those 40s and 50s titles are sweet ammo, aren't they?
In my lifetime

UK 3 titles
KU 1 title

Swing and a miss. You’d brag about those titles if you had more than three
 
There is no more misused/misunderstood word in college basketball than "talent." Most people mean it as potential, then (bizarrely) equate that to current (i.e 18/19 year old) production. It's madness. Case in point: Mr. Baracus.

LOL. If I cared enough, I could probably dig up a post of this very guy boasting on Rafters about how badly UK would slaughter the less talented Jayhawks in Rupp. And if not, he's one of about 10 UK fans who didn't have that opinion.

UK fans also thought they were more talented the year before, even after losing.
 
Here are the highest winning percentages in NCAA Tournament history. I would note that Loyola-Chicago is ahead of Kentucky.

Duke, 112-38, .747
North Carolina, 124-46, .729
Loyola Chicago, 13-5, .722
UCLA, 106-42, .716
Kentucky, 128-52, .711
Florida, 49-20, .710
Kansas, 107-46, .699
 
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Kentucky vs Kansas since Cal has been here
3-3 head to head
1-0 Natties - Let's see who did UK beat...KANSAS
4-1 final fours

No need to dwell on the other NCAA appearances.
 
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Here are the highest winning percentages in NCAA Tournament history. I would note that Loyola-Chicago is ahead of Kentucky.

Duke, 112-38, .747
North Carolina, 124-46, .729
Loyola Chicago, 13-5, .722
UCLA, 106-42, .716
Kentucky, 128-52, .711
Florida, 49-20, .710
Kansas, 107-46, .699

It's worth mentioning that UNC has played 36 tournament games in the state of North Carolina compared to just 18 for UK in Kentucky.

I'm not sure on Duke.
 
Next March it will have been 7 years since Kentucky's last title. That's a really long time.

Lol what?

LOL. If I cared enough, I could probably dig up a post of this very guy boasting on Rafters about how badly UK would slaughter the less talented Jayhawks in Rupp. And if not, he's one of about 10 UK fans who didn't have that opinion.

UK fans also thought they were more talented the year before, even after losing.

No you could not. But I would be flattered if you tried.

And I have to explain once again (because you imply otherwise) that "talent" =/= college production? FFS, you've had good upperclassmen guards getting drafted in the second round for about 18 straight seasons; you'd think you'd understand the difference by now.
 
Im really shocked though that Anthony isn’t going to.
there has not been one peep about it on our premium board unlike last year with Bagley... but Baker reclassifying was a surprise this year so who the hell knows. I just don't think it's going to happen.
 
there has not been one peep about it on our premium board unlike last year with Bagley... but Baker reclassifying was a surprise this year so who the hell knows. I just don't think it's going to happen.

Well, tbh there hasn’t been really a peep about anything regarding Anthony and his recruitment. I dont see why he wouldn’t though. It’s kind of like RJ Hampton. The entire recruiting scene knows he’s gonna reclass next year to the ‘19 class. He’ll be of age just like Cole is now. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised.
 
KU has the advantage over the last 3 decades, but they're sure proud of all those wins they piled up against Ted Owens in the 70s!
This always makes me laugh. It's not UK's fault for KU only being good recently. UK is the all time greatest team for a reason. It's all time. No one's fault but your own for being a johnny come lately.
 
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