Vegas still favors Duke over Kentucky
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Of course. On January 26, your avatar will look something like this:
Washington an All-American? He's talented. But an All-American? I like Reid, though.
i don't think you can compare the two
IU has everything an established elite coach could/would want
Uconn has very little to attract an established elite coach
so i really doubt that Uconn becomes elite again in my lifetime
Was UConn even that great of a program when they didn’t have Calhoun? I really don’t know. He was at UConn most of my life
Not sure why this is such a difficult concept. I never said Bolden and DeLaurier are better. I merely said that they are better rebounders and shot-blockers, which they are, at least per minute. For me as a Duke fan, I'm thrilled with their efficiency-numbers. As a team, you're getting anywhere from 60-65 shots off a game. Washington/Travis are going to being taking anywhere from 25-30 shots a game, combined. We don't need our bigs to be high volume shooters. We have plenty of playmakers. They excel in defense and rebounding; that's the bulk of what's expected of them. Think Lance Thomas/Brian Zoubek, who were surrounded by multiple scorers.
Washington is a below average rebounder (average shot blocker) - and Travis is a very below average rim protector (average rebounder). In these two categories, at least, Duke has an edge. Now things can obviously change, especially if Richards/Montgomery see significant PT.
So unc won a national championship and went too another final four after this came out, that would put them number 1.The best program all time by most experts is Kentucky. So instead of cherry picking a particular period let's just go all time best basketball program
List of AP all-time Top 100 college basketball programs
Updated: March 29, 2017, 4:25 PM ET
Associated Press
The Associated Press has been ranking the best teams in college basketball since January 1949. Over 68 years and more than 1,100 polls, a total of 200 schools have been ranked and 59 of them have been ranked No. 1 (Saint Louis was the first No. 1).
To determine the all-time Top 100, the AP formula counted poll appearances (one point each) to mark consistency and No. 1 rankings (two points each) to acknowledge elite programs. Keep in mind that AP doesn't release a poll after the NCAA Tournament, so eventual national champions are not factored into these rankings. Instead, this list focuses more on those programs that consistently appear in the poll and/or at the top during the regular seasons.
The poll started with 20 teams ranked each week until it was reduced to just the Top 10 midway through the 1960-1961 season. It then returned to a Top 20 format for the 1968-69 season. The poll expanded to 25 teams starting with the 1989-1990 and it has remained that size since then. The first preseason poll was introduced at the start of the 1961-1962 season.
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1. KENTUCKY (1,111 Points)
Total appearances: 75.37% of all polls
First appearance: Jan. 18, 1949 (first-ever poll)
No.1 rankings: 124
Best full decade: 1950s, appeared in 89.63% of polls, but 1990s were close with 89.33%.
Worst full decade: 1960s, appeared in 59.59% of polls.
Poll point: The Wildcats have missed appearing at least once in the poll for only three seasons during the 68-year history of the AP poll, the fewest poll-less seasons of any program. Those seasons were 1952-1953, 1988-1989, and 1989-1990.
2. NORTH CAROLINA (1,098 Points)
Total appearances: 76.68% of all polls
First appearance: Jan. 25, 1953
No.1 rankings: 110
Best full decade: 1980s, appeared in 98.19% of polls.
Worst full decade: 1960s, appeared in 42.96% of polls.
Poll point: The Tar Heels have appeared in more AP polls than any other program. UNC also has made the poll at least once each season since 1966-1967, the longest streak of any program at 51 years. What's even more impressive is the streak started back when the poll only had 10 teams.
3. DUKE (1,032 Points)
Total appearances: 67.6% of all polls
First appearance: Dec. 10, 1951
No.1 rankings: 129
Best full decade: 2000s, appeared in 98.95% of polls, but on pace to top that in the 2010s.
Worst full decade: 1970s, appeared in 17.86% of polls.
Poll point: Coach Mike Krzyzewski's Blue Devils have been ranked more times than any other team under the same coach. He has led them to nearly 80 percent of the program's poll appearances. To top that off, Duke has been left out of only four weekly polls since the start of the 1996-1997 season, the highest percentage of any program over that span.
4. UCLA (957 Points)
Total appearances: 60.17% of all polls
First appearance: March 8, 1949
No.1 rankings: 134, most of any program.
Best full decade: 1970s, appeared in 100% of polls, only program with a perfect percentage over an entire decade.
Worst full decade: 1980s, appeared in 39.76% of polls.
Poll point: The Bruins didn't miss a single poll for 221 weeks, starting with the preseason 1966-1967 poll and ending with the fifth poll of the 1979-1980 season, the longest consecutive streak of any program.
5. KANSAS (857 Points)
Total appearances: 63.49% of all polls
First appearance: March 7, 1950
No.1 rankings: 65
Best full decade: 1990s, appeared in 91.57% of polls, but also hasn't missed a poll yet in the 2010s.
Worst full decade: 1960s, appeared in 30.14% of polls.
Poll point: The Jayhawks have appeared in every poll since Feb. 2, 2009, the nation's longest active streak. Since taking over as KU's head coach in 2003, Bill Self's teams have appeared in the poll more than 90 percent of the time.
6. INDIANA (662 Points)
Total appearances: 48.38% of all polls
First appearance: Jan. 5, 1950
No.1 rankings: 54
Best full decade: 1990s, appeared in 71.35% of polls.
Worst full decade: 1960s, appeared in 15.75% of polls.
Poll point: The Hoosiers' longest stretch of consecutive weeks in the poll was 73, running from the 1990-1991 to 1994-1995 seasons.
7. LOUISVILLE (627 Points)
Total appearances: 54.41% of all polls
First appearance: Jan. 17, 1950
No.1 rankings: 2
Best full decade: 1970s, appeared in 75.60% of polls, but so far on pace to top that in the 2010s.
Worst full decade: 1960s, appeared in 26.03% of polls.
Poll point: While appearing in more than half of the polls to date, the Cardinals only reached No. 1 twice -- on March 16, 2009, and Jan. 14, 2013. In fact, Louisville was ranked in 520 polls before landing a No. 1, the longest drought of any team that has appeared in the poll.
8. ARIZONA (594 Points)
Total appearances: 45.41% of all polls
First appearance: Feb. 7, 1950
No.1 rankings: 37
Best full decade: 1990s, appeared in 99.44% of polls, missing only one weekly poll during the decade.
Worst full decade: 1960s, didn't appear in a single poll.
Poll point: The Wildcats didn't appear in a single AP poll over a 22-season period that started with 1951-52 and ended when ranked again in the 1973-1974 season, the longest poll drought of any team in the All-Time Top 10.
9. SYRACUSE (581 Points)
Total appearances: 47.77% of all polls
First appearance: Dec. 25, 1951
No.1 rankings: 17
Best full decade: 1990s, appeared in 76.97% of polls.
Worst full decade: 1960s, appeared in only 2.05% of polls..
Poll point: The Orangemen appeared in the AP poll only 17 times before Jim Boeheim was promoted to head coach in 1976. Since then, Syracuse has appeared more than 500 times and at least once every season since 1982-1983.
10. CINCINNATI (500 Points)
Total appearances: 35.81% of all polls
First appearance: Jan. 18, 1949 (first-ever poll)
No.1 rankings: 45
Best full decade: 1990s, appeared in 61.25% of polls.
Worst full decade: 1980s, didn't appear in a single poll during the decade.
Poll point: The Bearcats are the top "mid-major" appearing more times than any other program not currently in a Power 5 conference.
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