I just want to say I think all the posts prove my point. Unless I'm mistaken everyone posting agrees there shouldn't be a 9th month abortion AND you shouldn't completely ban abortions yet everyone still arguing.
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How are both of you so far off on this? Viability is the point at which the organs are developed enough to sustain life outside of the womb. The fact that they continue to develop after that is the epitome of inconsequential.
Though I do tend to argue, I am just having a conversation here.
Yeah, some people would like to deal with it by ending it before a life begins. Some states won’t let them do that.
Reminds me of Syracuse basketball. Over before it begins
Cuse was good that one timeReminds me of Syracuse basketball. Over before it begins
If you don't realize you're pregnant after a condom breaks or any hypothetical situation, a woman should be able to have that right to have an abortion. I'm not talking about late term. It's a basic freedom. Shove your faux morality up your ass. You don't care about a child's life, you just want to strip women's rights like a sociopath.
For me, I can't think of any issues I would put below abortion in terms of importance.
Maybe climate change? That's another one I couldn't care less about.
This is quite the pickle for the childless cat ladies. Vote for the guys who want me to keep my baby, or vote for the whore who let in the guys who want to eat my cat.
How? Because I think if a woman has the right to decide she doesn't want the responsibility of a child, that a man should also have that same choice?
How's that being a scumbag??
When the substance of the argument IS, a host is needed to SUSTAIN life, it's a very viable argument. The womb is needed to develop life, and to sustain. Although not the same needs apply after birth, the same concept does.
If we determine death with the absence of a heart beat..then why don't we determine IT LIFE, at the presence of one? Or that of brain function?
Killing a baby just because is the definition of scum my friend.
It's not. Brooke just says these things so he can show his wife's purple haired friends how sensitive he is to women’s needs.
I’ve mentioned this before, but your perception of me is way off. I’m not an oversharer but I would’ve guessed I’ve shared enough by this point that you’d be in the ballpark.
I want to carry on this debate but you are so far off on the premise that I’m not sure you can follow the logic.
Viability is entirely about the development of the fetus. There isn’t a scenario wherein a baby hasn’t hit the point of viability, could be removed from a womb, and survive. This is taking into account medical interventions and newborns born with defective organs. We are talking about the physical checkpoint at which the fetus has all of the stuff it needs, properly connected, to have even a chance at life outside of the womb with every medical resource put in play.
We are not talking about the way in which the baby receives nutrients.
Are you following or no?
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“I feel if you have an abortion just because, you're a piece of shit. Maybe should be forced to forfeit your uterus..”
You forgot you wrote this?
Nope. What's the problem? I think women who decide to kill a baby just because, are pieces of shit. Lazy ****s.
Forfeiting your uterus was sarcasm..Hence the emoji. Of course you left that out.
I have no use for women who have abortions just because they don't wanna be a mother. Not because of rape, or incest, etc..Simply because they're to fukin selfish to.take on the responsibility.
Didn't think it was that hard to understand. Apparently it was.
And you are a scumbag for these opinions. A morally bankrupt scumbag.
Understand it completely. You repeatedly repeating this sermon , isnt.needed.
I get it. You dont.rhink a baby is a baby until.its born.. That's your opinion.
Babies are born premature all the time. So, yeah, there are examples. A good.friends child was born without her lungs being fully developed. She's a very healthy 9 year old.today.
Cool. You go cheer on women who have abortions just because they are lazy pieces of shit.
You think someone who sleeps around, gets pregnant, then kills such baby just because she doesn't wanna be a mother, has morals? I'm the one who's morally bankrupt because I think this is wrong?
Wow
At no point have I said I think a baby isn’t a baby until it’s born. I’ve said the opposite multiple times. You claim to understand but got the most basic part completely wrong? How is that possible?
You understand, so you realize we haven’t been talking about late term abortions, correct?
Where'd I ever mention, or insinuate such?
If you feel a baby is a baby, why argue so adamantly about living in the womb, via outside? What point asides "being right" are you trying to make? Of course there's a difference. But you arguing FOR the reasoning why some feel it's NOT a baby, yet. So it's understandable for why I made .y comment.
You do know women, among others use viability, etc...as reasoning as to why they don't consider a baby to be a living human being, until after birth. Which is ridiculous
You are totally lost. I’ve led you to water and just about shoved your face in it. You refuse to drink.
Why do you feel the need to be so condescending? It doesn't make you look smarter than the people you disagree with. It just makes you look like a prick.
Tell me what it is I'm lost on.
What are you arguing, here? You said there is no argument to compare the survival inside the womb, opposed to outside; No comparison is what you said.
Ok...But what is your point of rhat argument?
It's who he is.
Not sure why I'm lost..He said it's not comparable. Ok. But why argue rhat point if you feel a baby is a baby, while in the womb?
It's not a hard question to answer.
Plus he's a dude who feels my moral.compass is off , because I think women.who kill babies just because they don't want the responsibility of being a parent, are pieces of shit.
The entire conversation was about allowing abortion up to viability. You apparently aren’t familiar with that term because you have been applying it to birth.. I guess. Viability is generally accepted to mean sometime around the 20 week mark of pregnancy. The exact week isn’t crucial to the point. I was making a point against overly restrictive abortion laws that cause harm to actual citizens under the false pretense that they’re intended to save the lives of the unborn. We’re talking about states that have all-out bans on abortion, with few exceptions, and states that ban abortion early enough in pregnancy that some women won’t even know they’re pregnant. These laws are archaic and can only possibly cause more harm than good. Worse yet, the ones who champion these laws claim moral high ground.
I match the energy that people come at me with. I give zero sh!ts about sounding smarter than somebody else. This is another thing about me that you miss on, and it’s one you’ve brought up multiple times before.
Why come in to a conversation when you don’t bother to read the the conversation from the beginning and then act like you understand when you must realize you don’t?
Oh no. You definitely care about sounding smarter than the people you disagree with. It's something that I have hit on from the very beginning.
Do you drive a Subaru?
The fact that you think this says a lot more about you and your insecurities than it does about me.
I’m sorry I’m not the stereotypical extreme liberal you want me to be. Truly
