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Tomorrow, NIKE joins the cheating party.

I truly don’t want anyone to go down. I want all of you guys to be doing things right. Seriously. Also, if you were not then that would mean UNC would have probably been cheated out of some titles and that would be some BS.
 
I truly don’t want anyone to go down. I want all of you guys to be doing things right. Seriously. Also, if you were not then that would mean UNC would have probably been cheated out of some titles and that would be some BS.

"In my mind, it's KU, Bill Self. Everyone else fall into line. Too (expletive) bad," Gassnola replied. "That's what's right for Adidas basketball. And I know I'm right. The more you have lottery picks and you happy. That's how it should work in my mind."

"That's how it works. At UNC and Duke," Self replied.

Gassnola answered by saying Kentucky
as well.
 
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"In my mind, it's KU, Bill Self. Everyone else fall into line. Too (expletive) bad," Gassnola replied. "That's what's right for Adidas basketball. And I know I'm right. The more you have lottery picks and you happy. That's how it should work in my mind."

"That's how it works. At UNC and Duke," Self replied.

Gassnola answered by saying Kentucky
as well.

I’ve always thought it was interesting how self himself didn’t suspect Kentucky of any wrong doing. At least I think it’s reasonable to infer that from his omission of them.
 
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I’ve always thought it was interesting how self himself didn’t suspect Kentucky of any wrong doing. At least I think it’s reasonable to infer that from his omission of them.
Even in a wiretap, he let the other guy speculate about UK.
 
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I truly don’t want anyone to go down. I want all of you guys to be doing things right. Seriously. Also, if you were not then that would mean UNC would have probably been cheated out of some titles and that would be some BS.

"In my mind, it's KU, Bill Self. Everyone else fall into line. Too (expletive) bad," Gassnola replied. "That's what's right for Adidas basketball. And I know I'm right. The more you have lottery picks and you happy. That's how it should work in my mind."

"That's how it works. At UNC and Duke," Self replied.

Gassnola answered by saying Kentucky
as well.


What does Self speculating about things he knows nothing about have to do with UNC?

The handlers, who do know, said UNC doesn’t play those games.
 
"In my mind, it's KU, Bill Self. Everyone else fall into line. Too (expletive) bad," Gassnola replied. "That's what's right for Adidas basketball. And I know I'm right. The more you have lottery picks and you happy. That's how it should work in my mind."

"That's how it works. At UNC and Duke," Self replied.

Gassnola answered by saying Kentucky
as well.

I’ve always thought it was interesting how self himself didn’t suspect Kentucky of any wrong doing. At least I think it’s reasonable to infer that from his omission of them.

Well, to be fair, Self wouldn’t know. Gassnola may. Not that I think UK is dirty. I do not.
 
What does Self speculating about things he knows nothing about have to do with UNC?

The handlers, who do know, said UNC doesn’t play those games.
Agree. We have Sandy Bell former enforcement officer for the NCAA heading up our NCAA compliance. If she's ok, then we're ok.
 
No doubt. I'm sure he raced here to post that. He's clearly been looking forward to "Nike" schools getting busted as well.
You had to know in the back of your mind that this was coming. From what Avenatti says it's bigger than many think and several Top schools involved. You can add Under Armour into the mix as they are next. This is why in a earlier thread We Are Depaul and I said everyone is doing the same thing and it looks like well, everyone is about to go down with the already sinking ship.
 
You had to know in the back of your mind that this was coming. From what Avenatti says it's bigger than many think and several Top schools involved. You can add Under Armour into the mix as they are next. This is why in a earlier thread We Are Depaul and I said everyone is doing the same thing and it looks like well, everyone is about to go down with the already sinking ship.
Nope. Sandy Bell is hell of drug.
So far Avenatti is not resourceful for reliable.

btw, did it just dip into the 30's. I'm feeling cold.I've not turned my heat on all year.
 
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Wish they would all go away and let us enjoy the 2019 BB Tournament. They just couldn't wait could they lol?
 
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What does Self speculating about things he knows nothing about have to do with UNC?

The handlers, who do know, said UNC doesn’t play those games.

Bill Self and Gassnola know nothing about it, but you do. Gotcha. As for the handlers...no one believes the Adidas rep (and shouldn’t) who testified UNDER OATH that Self knew nothing.

We have former AAU coaches on record on YouTube saying that this happens everywhere. With detail. We have this text conversation insinuating the same. We have proof that Ayton and many other Nike players have taken serious money. We know that Zion’s dad had demands. We have an FBI list that includes many Nike schools and all the top dogs.

You have to have your head buried deep to avoid reality.
 
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They will probably put Mueller on this one and everyone will talk it up like its doomsday and all these blue bloods are going down----and then he will find nothing and we can just go back to playing basketball.
 
I’ve always thought it was interesting how self himself didn’t suspect Kentucky of any wrong doing. At least I think it’s reasonable to infer that from his omission of them.

Well, first off, Calipari is a friend of his. Probably didn’t want to throw him under the bus. But more than that, he likely just threw out a few names. If he included everybody, that would be a long text.

But it’s a moot point. Gassnola would know, and he named Kentucky and insinuated that Self was right about the other two.
 
Well, first off, Calipari is a friend of his. Probably didn’t want to throw him under the bus. But more than that, he likely just threw out a few names. If he included everybody, that would be a long text.

But it’s a moot point. Gassnola would know, and he named Kentucky and insinuated that Self was right about the other two.

Or Gassnola was just trying to make Self feel better about being on the take.

I personally don’t care about any of this, but don’t bring Carolina into it.
 
If he was an Adidas consultant, how would he know who Nike is paying? Not saying Nike isn't paying players, but you're reaching.
Im guessing these guys know who they are bidding against, right? They know who is offering and what is being offered. They are at the same events talking to the same players.

It would be nearly unbelievable if they all didn't know who the competition was.
 
Im guessing these guys know who they are bidding against, right? They know who is offering and what is being offered. They are at the same events talking to the same players.

It would be nearly unbelievable if they all didn't know who the competition was.
They obviously know who the competition is, but I doubt they know what promises are being made by other schools in secret hotel room meetings.

I do believe some schools operate on the up and up. Michigan for instance. I have zero reason to believe John Beilein or his assistants are dirty. If that is the case, then why would they even recruit (Jalen Wilson) against other programs if they know those programs offer monetary incentives? Doesn't make sense. I believe schools, players, and handlers very much keep it a secret, and I highly doubt Adidas consultants know what Nike consultants are doing. Neither party wants a bidding war. That's stupid business logic.
 
They obviously know who the competition is, but I doubt they know what promises are being made by other schools in secret hotel room meetings.

I do believe some schools operate on the up and up. Michigan for instance. I have zero reason to believe John Beilein or his assistants are dirty. If that is the case, then why would they even recruit (Jalen Wilson) against other programs if they know those programs offer monetary incentives? Doesn't make sense. I believe schools, players, and handlers very much keep it a secret, and I highly doubt Adidas consultants know what Nike consultants are doing. Neither party wants a bidding war. That's stupid business logic.
They aren't calling each other or anything---but its not like the players/handlers aren't negotiated bt them and letting them know what the offer to beat is. Its not about being on the up and up with coaches. All coaches know it happens---but not all take part in it. Id bet most stay as far removed from it as possible or operate in a grey area where they are still insulated. This is happening to players that go to all schools, most of which the school has little to no idea its happening. I guarantee the nike guys know the adidas guys involved and vice versa. Also--I bet most assistants are involved than people would like to believe. Their job often depends on how well they recruit---the better they are at their job the more valuable they become. I would bet there are assistants out there doing all kinds of stuff the HC's don't know of or approve of.

Hell, I bet their are players that received money that didn't even request it.
 
If he was an Adidas consultant, how would he know who Nike is paying? Not saying Nike isn't paying players, but you're reaching.

No...YOU'RE reaching to debunk what is obvious to anyone that is rational.

These texts just assist in confirming what's been clear for many years.
 
Agree. We have Sandy Bell former enforcement officer for the NCAA heading up our NCAA compliance. If she's ok, then we're ok.

Agree.

Bill Self and Gassnola know nothing about it, but you do. Gotcha. As for the handlers...no one believes the Adidas rep (and shouldn’t) who testified UNDER OATH that Self knew nothing.

We have former AAU coaches on record on YouTube saying that this happens everywhere. With detail. We have this text conversation insinuating the same. We have proof that Ayton and many other Nike players have taken serious money. We know that Zion’s dad had demands. We have an FBI list that includes many Nike schools and all the top dogs.

You have to have your head buried deep to avoid reality.

I have no problem believing Self knew nothing, though I'm not sure what that comment was about then.

I do have a problem with people mentioning UNC and continually ignoring what was said about them not being a willing party like other programs were. You posted the bit were Self ignorantly threw in UNC. I responded to that.
 
Agree.

I have no problem believing Self knew nothing, though I'm not sure what that comment was about then.

I do have a problem with people mentioning UNC and continually ignoring what was said about them not being a willing party like other programs were. You posted the bit were Self ignorantly threw in UNC. I responded to that.

If the glove doesn't fit....you must acquit! Amirite?

So is it your opinion that none of the PLETHORA of hyped recruits that attend UNC, Duke, and Kentucky are taking money, or do you just think the coaches are completely ignorant of it all?
 
If the glove doesn't fit....you must acquit! Amirite?

So is it your opinion that none of the PLETHORA of hyped recruits that attend UNC, Duke, and Kentucky are taking money, or do you just think the coaches are completely ignorant of it all?

I think there are all sorts of kids who take money from boosters. I think it is reasonable coaches aren't sure who does and doesn't. I think often the kids know little about it as well tbh. It is the family and handlers, though I wouldn't blame a kid at all for taking money. However, I'm not the one throwing around accusations to any specific program either.

I wish I had that quote I am referencing that people ignore though.
 
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