I don't think Smith was racist at all... That was tongue in cheek. Point being, Smith wasn't bigger than segregation, nor was anyone else.
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Takes much more than words to be racist, IMO. It has been proven time and again he helped black players get scholarships elsewhere. Don't know many racists that would do that. Again, it was not uncommon for those words to be tossed around in that era. That certainly doesn't mean everyone using them was racist. You and I didn't grow up in that era, so we will never understand it. However, I don't imagine it was too terribly different than the divide today between conservatives and liberals and the ridiculous insults and slander that goes along with it.
He wasn't bigger than segregation but he was miles a head of Rupp.
I agree with most of what you said. I could be wrong but I find it very hard to believe that Rupp was out recruiting for other schools.
I just read some of that. There’s a whole bunch of quotes over the years from the Lexington newspaper to support the idea that Rupp wasn’t racist while there’s a whole bunch of “poor journalism” citations that all come from people who don’t write for the Lexington newspaper. Lol
I didn’t read the whole thing but some points are made about how he wasn’t as bad as history tends to portray him. Still though, I’m not sure why any Kentucky fans would defend him or even care for that matter. If I found out today that Phog Allen did and said all the same things Rupp was accused of then I would give no ****s.
if its a school as a whole... then its a toss up between UL, Mich State and Baylor. all three have just disgusting crap. UL is paying for sex for kids under 18. Baylor for the murder and cover up plus covering up sexual assault... then MSU for that disgusting doctor and the sexual assault cover ups.
but Cal is a slick talker and we get a bunch of recruits so I imagine a lot of people will want to say UK out of jealousy.
but Cal is a slick talker and we get a bunch of recruits so I imagine a lot of people will want to say UK out of jealousy.
I’ve had “talks” with Jon Scott over the years. He’s very biased in the facts he puts on his website.
I agree with you, not sure why it bothers UK fans so damn much.
Something interesting about Jon Scott is he's never lived in Kentucky. I assume if you've talked to him, you know where he's from.
I am sure if you were the parents of a 16 year old recruit you would love him to lose his virginity to Katina. Even better if the recruit was a 16 year old daughter. I am sure you have no problem with that.
I'm not saying it was like that, but obviously he didn't hesitate to put in a good word when he could, before the days of integration in the SEC.
Not Pennsylvania but close.
Anyway, I just thought it was interesting he doesn't have ties to Kentucky yet a tremendous UK historian.
When I think of bandwagon fans they are people that jump on when that team is winning and they were nowhere to be seen in the shitty years prior to or after the successful years (see Golden State "fans"). I wouldn't call a dude that invests who knows how many thousands of hours on UK stats, history, etc., a bandwagoner.
I’ve got no problem with the state. Just wish they had better sports teams to cheer for.
Rupp was from Kansas. jumpingsmile UK didn't MAKE him racist.
What the hell are y'all teaching good God-fearin' folk out there in Kansas @KisteK , @npreston , @schoonerwest, @toonces11 , @Hawkquake, , @MrBaracus , @Big_C_KU ?!
Y'all have a lot of 'splaining to do on this one to @jace46555 . SmokinSmile
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It's funny that this whole rupp conversation all started because I said that it's funny hearing people who are fans of certain teams say that other schools are so bad. I mentioned many examples like, ul prostitution scandal, UNC academic scandal, Kansas in current scandal and Kentucky's past and having their arena named after a racist. Out of all the schools I had mentioned, it's only Kentucky crying about it. Don't get me wrong, I didn't expect anything different, but that doesn't make it less funny.
I've heard people insinuate that I'm thinking that Rupp was the only racist of the era, but this is false. I agree, people said those types of bad things back then. But it doesn't make him any less of a racist just because others did it also. I'm simply pointing out that you probably shouldn't call out another team when your building is named after someone who had a questionable past.
I've heard people insinuate that I'm thinking that Rupp was the only racist of the era, but this is false. I agree, people said those types of bad things back then. But it doesn't make him any less of a racist just because others did it also. I'm simply pointing out that you probably shouldn't call out another team when your building is named after someone who had a questionable past.
1a & 1b) Michigan State + Baylor
2) Penn State
3) Louisville
4) a lot of other schools
This really isn't a debate. The schools at the top are disgusting.
2) Penn State
3) Louisville
4) a lot of other schools
This really isn't a debate. The schools at the top are disgusting.
FRIG! I wish you'd said that 24 hours earlier. On another note, you know anybody that wants to buy these? Just ordered 'em yesterday.
anon_0astpxev9h4gk
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Nah, Rupp was pretty racist. Cats fans just deflect and act like it wasn’t a part of history. Yes we had whores, paid for a a recruit. You guys had a racist at the helm, and had your point shaving in the early 50s, coupled with Eddie Sutton’s shadiness in the 80s.
anon_0astpxev9h4gk
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Louisville is 75 miles from Lexington, which part of Kentucky starts getting racist once you go down 64?
anon_0astpxev9h4gk
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It’s pretty bad, but since most of you are okay with having a racist as a legendary figure for your program, coupled with naming your arena after him, I’m not too shocked that those bits of information seem insignificant to you and the rest of nazi Germany, I mean BBN, sorry autocorrect. Winking
anon_0astpxev9h4gk
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All time racist program or wins, or both? Both. Got it. Here’s your cake, you can eat it too!#1 all time makes up for it.
Ehh, I wouldn’t say Penn State, Baylor and MSU are the worst BASKETBALL programs. Which was the starting question though, I would agree with you if it was college.
anon_0astpxev9h4gk
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“Alleged by UK fans”—-solidified by the rest of the world.
BTW "alleged" racist program.
They just mad. Probably learned it from their parents. UK has been winning for multiple generations.
