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Dude I didn’t say nothing happened. The UM booster DA said in the press conference nothing happened.
DA might have been wrong but how was Izzo supposed to know that? Hindsight
Agreed. I’m not sure how Stuart Dunning could go out and say “no crime was committed here”.
I’m just saying he did and I don’t get how you can expect a coach to hear that and turn around and suspend a player.
If Izzo saw/read Payne's testimony (along with the girl's claims) and concluded that "nothing happened, Appling was an upstanding student athlete" then shame on Izzo.
So you agree that Payne's interview looks bad for Appling?
But you don't think Izzo should have used that knowledge to sit Appling for a half or game? Something? Anything?
Disturbing.
But Izzo didn’t. He didn’t have access to Ingham County records.
So if Izzo had access to that interview you think he should have disciplined Appling in some way, shape or form?
Nobody not even the OTL piece is saying Izzo or the AD had access to that tape or testimony at the time.
If that's the case then I can't blame Izzo if he didn't know. If he did have access to it, would you agree something should have been done?
Just said this but yes.
http://www.isportsweb.com/wp-content/uploads//2018/02/Press-Release-SJD.pdf
That's where I got my screenshot from. It looks like it was released before the season.
So if Izzo had access to that interview you think he should have disciplined Appling in some way, shape or form?
Yes. But we will never know for sure either way.
If Y'all paid better Bazley would have stayed committed. Boeheim needs to get with the program.
http://www.isportsweb.com/wp-content/uploads//2018/02/Press-Release-SJD.pdf
It looks like he had access, no?
I didn’t read past the first page but I don’t think the video was released. And like I said, you gotta follow what the experts say. And when the DA says nothing happened you can’t really do much.
What did Izzo do when he found out about the rape. That's what it was, it was a rape. She didn't want to have sex with those two. That's not why she was there.Dude I didn’t say nothing happened. The UM booster DA said in the press conference nothing happened.
DA might have been wrong but how was Izzo supposed to know that? Hindsight
He should suspend the player simply because he's supposed to be a mentor to these kids and you can't tell me he didn't understand the gravity of what happened.Agreed. I’m not sure how Stuart Dunning could go out and say “no crime was committed here”.
I’m just saying he did and I don’t get how you can expect a coach to hear that and turn around and suspend a player.
Did he bother to ask the two players… .his players, what happened? Or did he just not want to know? He knew something happened right?But Izzo didn’t. He didn’t have access to Ingham County records.
What did Izzo do when he found out about the rape. That's what it was, it was a rape. She didn't want to have sex with those two. That's not why she was there.
Bad decision on her part, but an even worse decision made by those two players.
But what did Izzo do?
I know a ton of MSU fans and they all act just like you. All of you guys are more concerned with protecting Izzo, his job and his legacy. But if I was that girls dad, I'd be livid.
The girl most likely doesn't want to blow this thing up because it's already bad enough, but those two should have been kicked off the team and Izzo should have done so much more.
You MSU fans need to stop worrying about Izzo's legacy and focus on what really is important. But you do you.
What did Izzo do when he found out about the rape. That's what it was, it was a rape. She didn't want to have sex with those two. That's not why she was there.
Bad decision on her part, but an even worse decision made by those two players.
But what did Izzo do?
I know a ton of MSU fans and they all act just like you. All of you guys are more concerned with protecting Izzo, his job and his legacy. But if I was that girls dad, I'd be livid.
The girl most likely doesn't want to blow this thing up because it's already bad enough, but those two should have been kicked off the team and Izzo should have done so much more.
You MSU fans need to stop worrying about Izzo's legacy and focus on what really is important. But you do you.
You must not have a daughter or a sister. That girl didn't want to have sex with those two, they forced it on her and she didn't want to go through the embarrassment of a very public lawsuit, so she walked away. I don't care what the DA says, it was rape."DAs office, TitleIX office, and OCR--no crime was committed"
Online message posters "Rape was committed"
Hail with some nice lawyering skills in this thread. Opposing counsel really dropped the ball in witness prep.
Exactly. Not to make it a conference thing, but I don't think I've heard of a single B10 program indicated. As well as most of the rest of the P5 to this point. It ain't just the little guys.A lot of clean big programs too. MSU isn't unique in this regard.